Mega Thread 2014 Free Agency and Trade discussion

[Cannon82]

To be fair, we were handsomely rewarded for Scully chasing the dollars at GWS. Picks #4 and #14 - where we picked up Toumpas at #4 and sent #14 to GWS with #3 for mini-draft pick #2 (Jesse Hogan), Dom Barry and pick #20. Pick #20 and #45 then went to Collingwood for Dawes and pick #58, which ended up becoming pick #63 which we flicked to North with Gysberts for Pedo and #74. We then used this to promote one of Michael Evans or Dan Nicholson from the rookie list.

So Scully, Gysberts and some draft picks became Hogan, Dom Barry, Toumpas, Dawes and Pedo. Hmmm.

 

[Demon 16]

To be fair, we were handsomely rewarded for Scully chasing the dollars at GWS. Picks #4 and #14 - where we picked up Toumpas at #4 and sent #14 to GWS with #3 for mini-draft pick #2 (Jesse Hogan), Dom Barry and pick #20. Pick #20 and #45 then went to Collingwood for Dawes and pick #58, which ended up becoming pick #63 which we flicked to North with Gysberts for Pedo and #74. We then used this to promote one of Michael Evans or Dan Nicholson from the rookie list.

So Scully, Gysberts and some draft picks became Hogan, Dom Barry, Toumpas, Dawes and Pedo. Hmmm.

Ok but we have lost more players to other clubs than anyone else - and we can't afford for this to keep happening, as there's no way we'll make out like bandits every time - Scully was a one off.

It's the vibe. There's definitely a vibe.

 

[mrmonkey]

The compensation for scully was ridiculous because the afl were embarrassed that the gws target younger players. Who knows when they had an agreement with scully. No way scully was worth the same compensation as ablett. But it was a bad look that a number 1 pick left only after 2 years.

 

[The Dr]

The compensation for scully was ridiculous because the afl were embarrassed that the gws target younger players. Who knows when they had an agreement with scully. No way scully was worth the same compensation as ablett. But it was a bad look that a number 1 pick left only after 2 years.

The compensation was tied to the size and length of Scully's contract - so GWS's ridiculous, overinflated contract delivered us a ridiculous, overinflated compensation. Which was fantastic.

 

[Devastating Boris]

Byrnes retired opens a spot

 

[ponsdale]

My personal view on the PP and whether we should get one - regardless of the look of it, regardless of whether we deserve one, the rule/situation exists and PJ would be derelict in his duties if he didn't pump the AFL hard to request one. I have no shame and would love the fact that we had an extra bargaining tool in trading or an extra option on a talented kid. I would also especially enjoy the bleating from certain people in leadership positions at powerhouse clubs (I'm looking at you, Eddie).

But I'm sure not going to lose any sleep worrying about if we will or won't get one.

 

[ponsdale]

Byrnes retired opens a spot

Confirmed. http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2014-07-30/byrnes-announces-his-retirement

 

[Cannon82]

Byrnes' spot was going to be open whether he retired or not. I'm assuming his contract ran out at the end of this season? If not, good on him for not lingering on pointlessly.

 

[Devastating Boris]

Byrnes' spot was going to be open whether he retired or not. I'm assuming his contract ran out at the end of this season? If not, good on him for not lingering on pointlessly.

I agree, was just looking for a politer way to say it

Was worth a shot but unfortunately didn't pan out. Still a better pick than some others we've made lately

 

[Djcjdees]

Damn. Mackay just signed for 4 years with Radelaide. Ah well, there goes my theory

 

[Cannon82]

Remaining free agents (after King retired, Geary and Mackay signed new contracts):

Dees (1):
Frawley

Restricted (1)
Higgins (WB)

Unrestricted (24)
Boyd (WB), Butler (WC), Enright (GEE), Firrito (NM), Fisher (STK), Fletcher (ESS), Giansiracusa (WB), Goldsack (COL), Goodes (SYD), Gwilt (STK), Jetta (ESS), Jones (STK), Logan (PTA), Malceski (SYD), McGrath (BRI), McPharlin (FRE), Morris (WB), Newman (RIC), Porplyzia (ADE), Roberts-Thompson (SYD), Sewell (HAW), Stewart (PTA), Waite (CAR), Winderlich (ESS)


Blokes in red I reckon would retire if not offered a new contract at their current club. Rest of the playing talent is pretty thin.

 

[schmuttt]

Is Judd out of contract this year? Serious question.

 

[Topkent]

Malceski and Clint Jones would be the only ones Id consider

 

[Demon 16]

Dees would have surely had a good crack at MacKay and Geary. Pretty obvious they've been told we are out because Frawley is leaving.

Malceski is different, because I could see Sydney doing a cheap trade deal to get him to his club of choice, should they not afford him a reasonable contract.

 

[The Dr]

Malceski and Clint Jones would be the only ones Id consider

Malceski and Goldsack for mine (as long as we sign them in a way that doesn't dilute the Frawley compo) ... Really not sure what Clint Jones would offer us

 

[Cannon82]

Really not sure what Clint Jones would offer us

Another diabolical kick.

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

I wanted to go after Levi Greenwood a few years ago and was ridiculed. Looking upon his 2014 form he'd have been a great pick-up.

Clint Jones is a player in a pretty similar mould, but at his age yeah, he's not going to bring much.

 

[Cannon82]

I wanted to go after Levi Greenwood a few years ago and was ridiculed. Looking upon his 2014 form he'd have been a great pick-up.

Clint Jones is a player in a pretty similar mould, but at his age yeah, he's not going to bring much.

See if he maintains it. He's having a good year for the Kangas but his disposal is still ordinary - I caught the Carlton game and he was one of (many) culprits guilty of woeful ball use. There are plenty of guys who have a good year when their career / contract is in the cross-hairs that go back to being mediocre again - Rischitelli is one that comes to mind. More something I've seen in years and years of watching soccer though - the old My Contract Is Expiring Sudden Return To Form phase that big Mark Viduka loved so much.

 

[CTHORANGE]

The only one I would consider on that list is Malceski if he is confident he can play at least another 2 years. He would replace Terlich in the best 22 and we can recruit / develop another rebounding defender to take over in a couple of years

 

[Blackas87]

If Matthew Boyd and Brad Sewell aren't offered new contracts by their clubs I wouldn't mind offering them a similar deal to Daniel Cross, 1 year with a performance based 2nd option. Our midfield is the worst in the league, they would help while our young blokes develop.

 

[PerfectFooty]

If Leroy Jetta doesn't get a new deal can we rookie list him and turn him into a defender? But seriously i would be happy with Malceski, Jones and possibly Gwilt

 

[Cannon82]

If Leroy Jetta doesn't get a new deal can we rookie list him and turn him into a defender? But seriously i would be happy with Malceski, Jones and possibly Gwilt

Luckily I got to the second half of that post before I could repeatedly smash my laptop into the table.

 

[hulkhogan1]

If Matthew Boyd and Brad Sewell aren't offered new contracts by their clubs I wouldn't mind offering them a similar deal to Daniel Cross, 1 year with a performance based 2nd option. Our midfield is the worst in the league, they would help while our young blokes develop.

Now now, we aren't a retirement home.

 

[Demon 16]

Really not sure what Clint Jones would offer us

Are you kidding? He would light the place up!

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

Are you kidding? He would light the place up!

He isn't THAT blonde.