Preview Geelong at the 2014 AFL National Draft, Thursday 27 November

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Just a reminder of the Draft dates from today (1/11/14 ) forward.


Saturday November 1 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) begins

Wednesday November 12 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) closes; Out of contract listed AFL primary list players draft nomination form and player request for removal from list form Lodged with AFL; New or expired (after three years) draft nomination form lodgement.

Thursday November 13, by 2pm - List lodgement (2).

Friday November 14 - AFL delisted player free agency period (2) begins

Wednesday November 19 - Delisted primary list draft nomination form lodgement; Non–retained rookie players draft nomination form lodgement; Players not registered or played for three years rookie nomination. NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (2) closes

Thursday November 27 - NAB AFL Draft selection meeting (Gold Coast Convention Centre).

Friday November 28 - NAB AFL delisted free agency Period (3) begins

Monday December 1 - AFL delisted player free agency period (3) ends. AFL club list lodgement (3) and TPP estimates. International players inclusion on rookie list form; Scholarship players rookie list form lodged; Father/son and Academy pre-selected rookie nominations.

Wednesday December 3 - NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft selection meeting (11am); Notification of pre-selected rookies nominated on Monday November 25 if not selected in the pre-season draft (11.05am); NAB AFL Rookie Draft selection meeting (11.10am)

Monday December 5 – Final club list lodgement

Friday December 12, by 2pm - International players inclusion on rookie list
 

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Just had a look at Dean Gore on the "Draft Tracker", looks like a Michael Voss clone, playing for Sturt against men he's got everything imaginable to take the next step to AFL. His kicking and hard at it style is brilliant.
Probably have no hope with our P47, but you can never tell, check him out!

Lucas Webb, he's the other I'd like, but our picks are so far back I'll be surprised if these two aren't well gone.
 

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Really like the look of Nick Mellington as a big inside midfielder, looks like a clearance specialist.

Could he be the Ollie Wines of the draft that no-one is really talking about?

http://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-machine.workstation


I just checked him out, he's a monster in the making,...illness but last 5 TAC games AV 25 poss and big clearances numbers!!
Also touched up Brayshaw with 30 possessions and 10 clearances when they met late in the year.
No one would know a lot about him, possibly?
I'm seriously impressed,...you do some excellent work CR.
 
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I hope not, I don't think we need Port cast offs!...P47 is still a pick with big potential if used wisely, with good fortune thrown in of course.

Who do you have in mind Meto?and why he better?

For a start Newton is not cast off. Port want him to stay. P47 if used wisely? Is it only wisely if used on a kid? Who do you have some kid specifically in mind or just in general? I find it very dificult to really rate kids playing v kids then look at more mature players playing against players in the system.
On the number your totally correct , ie Kolo was 41 but I wonder if he had played a year in our VFL side before being drafted what he would have gone at in the draft. Logical say earlier , looked better than a 41 to my eyes but the over rating of new kids may mean he went later.

Perhaps you think 47 is too early and we can get him at 60. Maybe , but if he has denied a contract , he has done it with someones support..my feel is he would have been told ..If you are there at "X" we will take you. The real question is Newton any good? Not quiet good enough to maintain a spot in Ports side atm. Opportunity or lack of talent? I can't tell but i suspect he will be better value than a kid taken at 40,50,60's.. if we can find someone gives us 50 games at that pick id be more than happy epsecially if he does it from 2015 on , not debuting in 16 or 17.
 
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I just checked him out, he's a monster in the making,...illness but last 5 TAC games AV 25 poss and big clearances numbers!!
Also touched up Brayshaw with 30 possessions and 10 clearances when they met late in the year.
No one would know a lot about him, possibly?
I'm seriously impressed,...you do some excellent work CR.

My only issue is him being very left sided , but he does remind me of those bull types we have looked at the last couple of years.
 

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My only issue is him being very left sided , but he does remind me of those bull types we have looked at the last couple of years.

Don't know about the lefty bit, but "jeepers" if he's there with the high picks we've got!...I'd pull the trigger, got ya.
He's a beast.

Newton's been there 4 years av'd 10 poss in a handful of games, they don't want him! Rather Peter Bampton, Gore or this kid above. Check out Bampton at SANFL level or Gore v impressive.
May as well kept Taylor Hunt who's better than Newton anyway.
 
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Who do you have in mind Meto?and why he better?

For a start Newton is not cast off. Port want him to stay. P47 if used wisely? Is it only wisely if used on a kid? Who do you have some kid specifically in mind or just in general? I find it very dificult to really rate kids playing v kids then look at more mature players playing against players in the system.
On the number your totally correct , ie Kolo was 41 but I wonder if he had played a year in our VFL side before being drafted what he would have gone at in the draft. Logical say earlier , looked better than a 41 to my eyes but the over rating of new kids may mean he went later.

Perhaps you think 47 is too early and we can get him at 60. Maybe , but if he has denied a contract , he has done it with someones support..my feel is he would have been told ..If you are there at "X" we will take you. The real question is Newton any good? Not quiet good enough to maintain a spot in Ports side atm. Opportunity or lack of talent? I can't tell but i suspect he will be better value than a kid taken at 40,50,60's.. if we can find someone gives us 50 games at that pick id be more than happy epsecially if he does it from 2015 on , not debuting in 16 or 17.

If Port have delisted him for goodwill as Syd did with Membrey, we could take him and Blease as DFA's and still use 10, 47 and 55. Not too bad.
 
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If Port have delisted him for goodwill as Syd did with Membrey, we could take him and Blease as DFA's and still use 10, 47 and 55. Not too bad.
If true , and if the club rate them the I like it. From minimal input hard to see what Newton has over Hunt or Schroder but they are paid to make judgements and act on them. At least with the guys we have delisted they have sen enough of them (bar Bourke).
The truth is when we pick up these guys who are secondhand , they will have issues that have at least been shown at the required level. Any kid at 60 for instance would have issues as well , and havent yet seen action V men.

Just to confirm , at the moment we have 47,55 and 60 and Blitz is 78 or whatever
 

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Just had a look at Dean Gore on the "Draft Tracker", looks like a Michael Voss clone, playing for Sturt against men he's got everything imaginable to take the next step to AFL. His kicking and hard at it style is brilliant.
Probably have no hope with our P47, but you can never tell, check him out!

Lucas Webb, he's the other I'd like, but our picks are so far back I'll be surprised if these two aren't well gone.
I reckon both of those are in range at 47, especially Webb.
 

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If Port have delisted him for goodwill as Syd did with Membrey, we could take him and Blease as DFA's and still use 10, 47 and 55. Not too bad.
Media has Newton linked with the Demons, almost a done deal. We'll get Blease, Blicav an upgrade, and picks 10, 47, 55, 60
 
My only issue is him being very left sided , but he does remind me of those bull types we have looked at the last couple of years.

If your issue is that he does not have a right foot then I think that "could" be a genuine issue. It is one of my concerns with Murdoch as a lefty. (It is also a concern that Motlop does not have a left side). But there are a lot of very good left foot players in the system these days. And the reigning premier does not appear too concerned about acquiring lefties.
 
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If your issue is that he does not have a right foot then I think that "could" be a genuine issue. It is one of my concerns with Murdoch as a lefty. (It is also a concern that Motlop does not have a left side). But there are a lot of very good left foot players in the system these days. And the reigning premier does not appear too concerned about acquiring lefties.
I think Motlop has shown up that he's fairly capable on his left side- compensating for the lack of a left foot by kicking the banana.
Yeah, I know it's not as good as him being fully competent on that side of his body but it does the job.
Maybe we should stickytape him and Murder together and present them as one rather large two-sided player?
 

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I reckon both of those are in range at 47, especially Webb.


I just picked Webb at # 60 in the Adelaide Board's phantom draft.

My picks were:

#10 Jarrod Pickett (best available mid - I know you might go for a KPD with # 10 though)
#47 Caleb Daniel (all-Australian midget mid)
#55 Daniel Howe (med-tall defender)
#60 Lukas Webb (mid, possible tagger)

I'll be interested to see if Wells picks any of these - unlikely though.
 
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If your issue is that he does not have a right foot then I think that "could" be a genuine issue. It is one of my concerns with Murdoch as a lefty. (It is also a concern that Motlop does not have a left side). But there are a lot of very good left foot players in the system these days. And the reigning premier does not appear too concerned about acquiring lefties.

All good points. Perhaps I have given a little more allowance to outside players who can burst more often and settle on their best side.
 
I think Motlop has shown up that he's fairly capable on his left side- compensating for the lack of a left foot by kicking the banana.
Yeah, I know it's not as good as him being fully competent on that side of his body but it does the job.
Maybe we should stickytape him and Murder together and present them as one rather large two-sided player?

Motlop does get around it to some extent with the banana when shooting at goal, but it is probably not the best option to target a player on the move.
 
All good points. Perhaps I have given a little more allowance to outside players who can burst more often and settle on their best side.

Of course, you must understand that I am completely unbiased when it comes to left footers.
 
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Motlop does get around it to some extent with the banana when shooting at goal, but it is probably not the best option to target a player on the move.
True. Also might work out ok when he's on his lonesome but maybe not so well when he's hemmed in on the boundary or by two opponents.

Most players appear to be at least competent on their non-preferred side these days- is there a reason why some who are not competent cannot learn to be efficient on that side?
 
...is there a reason why some who are not competent cannot learn to be efficient on that side?

I wouldn't think so, but it is something that you would expect of a player good enough to get into the AFL system. I would think that modern AFL players would at least have some proficiency on their non preferred side by hand or foot. And I would expect that kids in the AFL feeder systems, like the Falcons and so on, would make some attempt to ensure that kids developed those skills.
 

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All good points. Perhaps I have given a little more allowance to outside players who can burst more often and settle on their best side.

How's the numbers Nick Mellington got in the later part of the season!....especially against Brayshaw who's top 6.
 

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Another player to look out for with one of our later picks is Taylor Grace.

184cm midfielder, 1 year older, damaging left foot who averaged 32 possessions and 4 clearances a game at TAC level. Plays like Dal Santo.
 

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Another player to look out for with one of our later picks is Taylor Grace.

184cm midfielder, 1 year older, damaging left foot who averaged 32 possessions and 4 clearances a game at TAC level. Plays like Dal Santo.
I queried this player with Knightmare a while back, his stats are impressive, but Knightmare thought that given his an over-ager in the U18 comp, he just quietly racks-up the possessions in the background without noticing him. He must be good to average those types of stats, but the impression I got from Knightmare was that he goes unnoticed and that he doesn't hurt the opposition. Then again that's only one opinion.
 
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