No Oppo Supporters General AFL and other clubs discussion thread. **Opposition fans not welcome**

[Phil McCreviss]

This is a discussion forum on topical issues, not a protest rally....Just in case you forgot!

It's about natural justice & equalization....That's why we care!...You're indifference is both droll & irrelevant to the topic.

Natural justice lol. Wow you guys take this stuff pretty serious ey?

 

[Harper_Hawk]

Johnathan Brown just listed Liam Shiels as one of our bottom six players on On The Couch. Remarkable how underrated he is.

Liam Shiels bottom six...the man obviously doesn't watch many Hawthorn games...Shiels is under the radar and we win when he plays.

 

[bigton08]

You like digging the boot into past players don't you. Brad Sewell the Hawthorn premiership player is not Brad Sewell of the MRP, also a three man panel doesn't mean all 3 agree on any decision.

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I don't bag any past players except judas.so they don't all agree well the footage I saw and everybody else saw was very bad and they get 1 week only a panel of three muppets can be so blind.Yes, Brad is a past champion but it terms if toughness and guts I would rate Sam well above him not saying Brad was a s**t player he had his own strengths.. But I know who I'd trust when the chips are down... You just know Sam would be in the thick if it ...

 

[Procrastinator35]

Natural justice lol. Wow you guys take this stuff pretty serious ey?

We come here for a laugh as well Phil....And you provide for ample fodder there.

 

[Phil McCreviss]

We come here for a laugh as well Phil....And you provide for ample fodder there.

Ha yeah good stuff. I'd almost take you seriously....

 

[Procrastinator35]

Ha yeah good stuff. I'd almost take you seriously....

Sumfin tells me you'd take me anyway you could....If I let you that is.

 

[H2F]

We come here for a laugh as well Phil....And you provide for ample fodder there.

I find myself asking this question every time I read one of your posts.

Is there a bigger cumrag on Bigfooty than you?

I think not.

 

[H2F]

Sumfin tells me you'd take me anyway you could....If I let you that is.

 

[Procrastinator35]

I find myself asking this question every time I read one of your posts.

Is there a bigger cumrag on Bigfooty than you?

I think not.

I THINK YOU JUST PROVIDED THE ANSWER TO YOUR OWN QUESTION.

 

[H2F]

I THINK YOU JUST PROVIDED THE ANSWER TO YOUR OWN QUESTION.

One of us is stupid and I think I know which one it is...

 

[Procrastinator35]

One of us is stupid and I think I know which one it is...

Cheers for letting us know your a mate of Phil....Classy stuff on your home-board there mate.

 

[H2F]

Cheers for letting us know your a mate of Phil....Classy stuff on your home-board there mate.

He is my mate and you are annoying ...

 

[grizzlym]

Gentlemen....

 

[Procrastinator35]

He is my mate and you are annoying ...

Well that's all you needed to say from the beginning....No need to dance around in circles....Please employ ignore button as suitable solution.

 

[heh]

Childen get back in your corners, it is time out time.

 

[grizzlym]

Childen get back in your corners, it is time out time.

Time for the naughty corner?

 

[H2F]

Well that's all you needed to say from the beginning....No need to dance around in circles....Please employ ignore button as suitable solution.

 

[heh]

Time for the naughty corner?

With the old school dunce hats on their heads.

 

[H2F]

Gentlemen....

Sorry Grizz just saw that.

I apologise everyone ...

My medulla oblongata got the better of me...

 

[Bikefreak]

Johnathan Brown just listed Liam Shiels as one of our bottom six players on On The Couch. Remarkable how underrated he is.

Even more remarkable sometimes....is it seems like JB never ever played AFL when you hear some of the dumb s**t that he comes out with.

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[Bumpswithagrin]

Even more remarkable sometimes....is it seems like JB never ever played AFL when you hear some of the dumb s**t that he comes out with.

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I don't think he's the sharpest tool in the shed.

 

[Procrastinator35]

'Unsociable' Hawks are good guys compared to some
Date
June 29, 2015 - 8:37PM

Jesse Hogan
Sports writer for The Age
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Bad guys? Hawthorn and North Melbourne players wrestle with each other after a high hit by Luke Hodge on Andrew Swallow in round five. Photo: Getty Images

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They've built a reputation around their brand of "unsociable football", the club that plays closest to the edge, in terms of aggression. But how do Hawthorn stack up in a forensic look at clubs' recent records before the tribunal and match review panel?

Jordan Lewis and Luke Hodge have been suspended this season, defenders Josh Gibson and Ben Stratton were fined in round 12 for off-the-ball striking incidents while Sam Mitchell has received significant media scrutiny in the past fortnight, first for a collision in which he made contact with his knee to Taylor Walker that the Adelaide captain reckoned was deliberate and a provocative injecting gesture to Essendon players ensnared in the WADA doping probe.

Nevertheless, the reigning premiers rank comfortably in the middle for both the number of players charged with offences and the number of matches missed as a result.

Since the start of 2011 there have been 25 instances in which a Hawthorn player has either accepted or been found guilty of an offence that could have resulted in suspension, rather than an offence like wrestling which exclusively triggers financial penalties. While that is 10 more than the league's best-behaved teams on that measure, it is 11 fewer than Fremantle.

Seven of the Dockers' 35 charges over that period are for one player: Hayden Ballantyne.

The Swans fare best in terms of matches missed due to suspension. Since 2011 their players have missed only nine matches. Even if the imminent one-match suspensions for Lance Franklin and Kurt Tippett were included they would still sit on top, ahead of Adelaide, Port Adelaide and Western Bulldogs. They were the first suspensions for Swans since Ben McGlynn received a three-match for striking in round 16, 2013.

Besides Sydney, the next-best for both fewest charges and fewest matches missed is Collingwood, with Western Bulldogs and the Crows also faring well.

By contrast, Geelong fare worst across both rankings. With 35 charges over the past four and a half years they are only one behind the Dockers. Their players have also missed a total of 33 matches over that period, more than Richmond (30), North Melbourne (29) and Essendon and Melbourne (27). The Cats' poor ranking is weighed down by incidents between 2011 and 2013. Over the past season and a half their players have missed a total of five matches, all of them one-match bans. Over that period there have been only eight instances of players being charged.

The Kangaroos are the closest club to Geelong for poor rankings in both proven charges and matches missed due to suspension. Six of their players have been fined this year, although all were for incidents mild enough to escape with a fine rather than suspension.

CHARGES LAID SINCE 2011: BEST TO WORST

Eq 1. Sydney, GWS* (15 charges)
3. Collingwood (17)
Eq 4. Port Adelaide, Western Bulldogs (18)
Eq 6. Adelaide, Carlton (19)
8. Gold Coast (20)
9. Brisbane (24)
10. Hawthorn (25)
11. Melbourne (27)
Eq 12. Richmond, St Kilda (28)
14. Essendon (30)
15. West Coast (32)
16. North Melbourne (34)
17. Geelong (35)
18. Fremantle (36)

MATCHES MISSED SINCE 2011: BEST TO WORST

1. Sydney (9)
Eq 2. Adelaide Port Adelaide, Western Bulldogs (12)
5. Collingwood (14)
6. GWS* (15)
7. Brisbane (17)
8. St Kilda (21)
Eq 9. Carlton, West Coast (23)
11. Hawthorn (25)
Eq 12. Fremantle, Gold Coast (26)
Eq 14. Essendon, Melbourne (27)
16. North Melbourne (29)
17. Richmond (30)
18. Geelong (33)

Excludes offences which only trigger fines, such as wrestling, and charges overturned at tribunal. GWS not enter league until 2012.

GEE....Now there's a surprise.

 

[Davo23]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-06-29/afl-warning-to-players-over-essendon-needle-jab-sledge

Well at least Mitchell got off.

That's such a relief!
Thank God for Brad Sewell on the MRP - got Sammy off a pretty severe and dangerous charge!

Everything's coming up Milhouse!

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I don't think he's the sharpest tool in the shed.

He definitely isn't.


Remember, this is the same guy who said in the preseason that even if the Essendon players were found guilty Hird should keep his job, because he'd have put in a lot of effort planning for the year.

I mean, that is beyond dumb.

 

[moginie]

'Unsociable' Hawks are good guys compared to some
Date
June 29, 2015 - 8:37PM

Jesse Hogan
Sports writer for The Age
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Bad guys? Hawthorn and North Melbourne players wrestle with each other after a high hit by Luke Hodge on Andrew Swallow in round five. Photo: Getty Images

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They've built a reputation around their brand of "unsociable football", the club that plays closest to the edge, in terms of aggression. But how do Hawthorn stack up in a forensic look at clubs' recent records before the tribunal and match review panel?

Jordan Lewis and Luke Hodge have been suspended this season, defenders Josh Gibson and Ben Stratton were fined in round 12 for off-the-ball striking incidents while Sam Mitchell has received significant media scrutiny in the past fortnight, first for a collision in which he made contact with his knee to Taylor Walker that the Adelaide captain reckoned was deliberate and a provocative injecting gesture to Essendon players ensnared in the WADA doping probe.

Nevertheless, the reigning premiers rank comfortably in the middle for both the number of players charged with offences and the number of matches missed as a result.

Since the start of 2011 there have been 25 instances in which a Hawthorn player has either accepted or been found guilty of an offence that could have resulted in suspension, rather than an offence like wrestling which exclusively triggers financial penalties. While that is 10 more than the league's best-behaved teams on that measure, it is 11 fewer than Fremantle.

Seven of the Dockers' 35 charges over that period are for one player: Hayden Ballantyne.

The Swans fare best in terms of matches missed due to suspension. Since 2011 their players have missed only nine matches. Even if the imminent one-match suspensions for Lance Franklin and Kurt Tippett were included they would still sit on top, ahead of Adelaide, Port Adelaide and Western Bulldogs. They were the first suspensions for Swans since Ben McGlynn received a three-match for striking in round 16, 2013.

Besides Sydney, the next-best for both fewest charges and fewest matches missed is Collingwood, with Western Bulldogs and the Crows also faring well.

By contrast, Geelong fare worst across both rankings. With 35 charges over the past four and a half years they are only one behind the Dockers. Their players have also missed a total of 33 matches over that period, more than Richmond (30), North Melbourne (29) and Essendon and Melbourne (27). The Cats' poor ranking is weighed down by incidents between 2011 and 2013. Over the past season and a half their players have missed a total of five matches, all of them one-match bans. Over that period there have been only eight instances of players being charged.

The Kangaroos are the closest club to Geelong for poor rankings in both proven charges and matches missed due to suspension. Six of their players have been fined this year, although all were for incidents mild enough to escape with a fine rather than suspension.

CHARGES LAID SINCE 2011: BEST TO WORST

Eq 1. Sydney, GWS* (15 charges)
3. Collingwood (17)
Eq 4. Port Adelaide, Western Bulldogs (18)
Eq 6. Adelaide, Carlton (19)
8. Gold Coast (20)
9. Brisbane (24)
10. Hawthorn (25)
11. Melbourne (27)
Eq 12. Richmond, St Kilda (28)
14. Essendon (30)
15. West Coast (32)
16. North Melbourne (34)
17. Geelong (35)
18. Fremantle (36)

MATCHES MISSED SINCE 2011: BEST TO WORST

1. Sydney (9)
Eq 2. Adelaide Port Adelaide, Western Bulldogs (12)
5. Collingwood (14)
6. GWS* (15)
7. Brisbane (17)
8. St Kilda (21)
Eq 9. Carlton, West Coast (23)
11. Hawthorn (25)
Eq 12. Fremantle, Gold Coast (26)
Eq 14. Essendon, Melbourne (27)
16. North Melbourne (29)
17. Richmond (30)
18. Geelong (33)

Excludes offences which only trigger fines, such as wrestling, and charges overturned at tribunal. GWS not enter league until 2012.

GEE....Now there's a surprise.

Better ignore this. It doesn't fit the media profile.