General MFC discussion

[Trav 20]

Intercept marking I will agree with. To me 'intercept marking' falls under 'reading the game' which is the one I gave him above. Running through the midfield I disagree with. I don't think he is nearly damaging enough for that to be a weapon. His rebounding stops as soon as he has to hit a target on the run.

He does float forward and kick the odd goal, but again, not a weapon. Those you have listed might be some of his positive traits, but wouldn't go as far as to call them weapons IMO. As I posted, decent defender, and with that you can expect him to be able to read the play and mark the ball, as well as being able to shut someone down (hence the term 'defender') but nothing really stands out apart from that. I reckon he's a B-grader at present. Nothing wrong with that, but he still has to work to keep his spot, and that's a good thing

C grader.

 

[Topkent]

Unfortunately, despite his AFL traits, he doesn't have a creative bone in his body and lacks skill under pressure. He's inept at holding onto the ball under pressure and making a really good decision and execution. More likely he'll rush a disposal which results in a turnover.

I'm not suggesting he's not best 22, but he needs to develop, which he hasn't done since his second year. He's stagnated, or regressed.

Spot on with that first part

I've always thought his reading of a kick in defence was elite but at ground level when there is traffic around him and he needs to make a decision he cracks badly

The video of us vs collingwood in 2010 shows grimes making some brilliant intercept marks and then switching the play quickly by hand or foot , nothing spectacular but it made him look like a quality young player

He doesn't have the consistency by foot or mind to take on the options he wants and needs more experience around him to help clear the footy
Lumumba will be a big help here

 

[Viney]

Grimes reminds me a bit of Bell

Shocking awareness and peripheral

 

[schmuttt]

Grimes reminds me a bit of Bell

Shocking awareness and peripheral

Bell looked over those issues till Johnson nearly broke his neck.

 

[Theseventhhamster]

Grimes doesn't see what's behind him. Makes his courage in the air more impressive but doesn't help when he's going through traffic in the middle. Bell didn't know what was behind him, beside him, above or below. He can tag in the middle and did a couple of great cameo's there but he shouldn't played as a ball winner there ever IMO.

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

Grimes doesn't see what's behind him. Makes his courage in the air more impressive but doesn't help when he's going through traffic in the middle. Bell didn't know what was behind him, beside him, above or below. He can tag in the middle and did a couple of great cameo's there but he shouldn't played as a ball winner there ever IMO.

Certainly didn't know when Ben Johnson was beside him.

 

[Theseventhhamster]

Certainly didn't know when Ben Johnson was beside him.

I completely forgot about that one but I did remember to hate Johnson. The last time I saw him play I had that feeling I get when I see Michael Long but couldn't figure out why. Didn't bother trying to figure it out because he was a Filth player so it didn't really matter.

 

[Viney]

Bell looked over those issues till Johnson nearly broke his neck.

I saw belly at a local supermarket

Looked spaced out

Johnson laid a dirty hit on him that day

Doesn't get the hate it deserves

 

[Ando727]

I completely forgot about that one but I did remember to hate Johnson. The last time I saw him play I had that feeling I get when I see Michael Long but couldn't figure out why. Didn't bother trying to figure it out because he was a Filth player so it didn't really matter.

Yeah, there no campaigner like an Essendon campaigner...

 

[ManWithNoName]

Yeah, there no campaigner like an Essendon campaigner...

Hey

 

[Ando727]

Hey

How do you feel about Michael Long's effort in the 2000 GF? And the Daniel Bell/Ben Johnson incident mentioned above? Matthew Lloyd/Brad Sewell rates a mention too. Maybe Kevin Sheedy was behind it all - if so, add him to the list of Essendon campaigners. Now we have Hirdy of course...

 

[ManWithNoName]

How do you feel about Michael Long's effort in the 2000 GF? And the Daniel Bell/Ben Johnson incident mentioned above? Matthew Lloyd/Brad Sewell rates a mention too.

Wasn't great. I'm sure Longy regrets it now. Fantastic guy obviously, but understandably some will mainly remember that incident above all else.

 

[youngbear]

Anybody see Trengove's leg on instagram?

atrophy from non-conditioning is amazing and (IMO) worrying.

http://instagram.com/p/wnpfA_je_j/

 

[Max Power 83]

Anybody see Trengove's leg on instagram?

atrophy from non-conditioning is amazing and (IMO) worrying.

http://instagram.com/p/wnpfA_je_j/

Nah, he'll get that back pretty quick.

 

[Demon 16]

How do you feel about Michael Long's effort in the 2000 GF? And the Daniel Bell/Ben Johnson incident mentioned above? Matthew Lloyd/Brad Sewell rates a mention too. Maybe Kevin Sheedy was behind it all - if so, add him to the list of Essendon campaigners. Now we have Hirdy of course...

To be fair, the Lloyd hit on Sewell was pretty good.

 

[schmuttt]

Anybody see Trengove's leg on instagram?

atrophy from non-conditioning is amazing and (IMO) worrying.

http://instagram.com/p/wnpfA_je_j/

Not really worried, he basically has 18 months to build it up (He won't play in 2015).

 

[00Stinger]

Grimes doesn't see what's behind him..

?????

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

Literally nothing to be concerned about. Athletes who lose muscle tend to pick it up fairly quickly. In fact it's more promising than anything in that his right leg still looks solid and suggests that he hasn't lost the rest of his conditioning.

 

[Theseventhhamster]

?????

He gets tackled from behind a bit when he goes into the middle. Doesn't have that elite awareness of what's around him. Reads the ball in the air like a boss though.

 

[youngbear]

Literally nothing to be concerned about. Athletes who lose muscle tend to pick it up fairly quickly. In fact it's more promising than anything in that his right leg still looks solid and suggests that he hasn't lost the rest of his conditioning.

Just never seen it before to that extent. I've never broken a leg or arm and had it happen to me. But as you said, it's promising; especially to show how little fat he has in his legs.

 

[markm106]

I can't see Trengove playing 2015. If he gets fit and over his foot injury will be a bonus for 2016.

 

[SuburbanMe]

Yeah, there no campaigner like an Essendon campaigner...

My Mrs is an essendon supporter, and I can 2nd that.

 

[Viney]

Just never seen it before to that extent. I've never broken a leg or arm and had it happen to me. But as you said, it's promising; especially to show how little fat he has in his legs.

I was in a cast for 8 weeks when I was younger without surgery or a break and my leg was withered massively like trenners

It bounced back very quickly

It was like being in a sauna for 8 weeks

He'll be fine

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

I was in a cast for 8 weeks when I was younger without surgery or a break and my leg was withered massively like trenners

It bounced back very quickly

It was like being in a sauna for 8 weeks

He'll be fine

Especially given that he'll be on an AFL fitness regime.

 

[Viney]

Especially given that he'll be on an AFL fitness regime.

Exactly

It's summer

His immobile leg is in an encased sauna

He'll be fine