Federal Court Justice Susan Kenny will hear Hird's bid for an expedited appeal at 10.15am THURS

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ref: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-02/statement-from-james-hird

"I HAVE today lodged an appeal with the Federal Court against the decision of Justice Middleton in Hird v ASADA. I have been advised and believe that there are strong reasons why that decision is incorrect and that this is the proper and appropriate course to vindicate the legal rights of the EFC and its players.

"The challenge to the lawfulness of the joint investigation was and is an important step in showing that the Essendon Football Club, its players and staff were submitted to a compromised investigation and were treated unfairly. If we don’t appeal our players may be stained forever by the innuendo, misconceptions and falsities that resulted from an investigation that we believe was conducted unlawfully.

"It is important that an investigation based on unlawfully gathered information never occurs again to any person, sporting club or organisation.

"ASADA plays an extremely important role in the fight against drugs in sport and must work within the Act under which it operates.

"Throughout my playing career I vehemently opposed the use of performance enhancing drugs in sport. My stance as a coach has been and is exactly the same.

"At no time in the 2012 season did I believe any Essendon player was exposed to any supplement or drug that fell outside the WADA, ASADA or AFL code. Two years since the end of that season I still do not believe any Essendon player took anything illegal. No one has shown me any evidence that would lead me to believe differently.

"I am extremely sorry for the pain this saga has caused the players of the Essendon Football Club, their families, the Essendon Football Club staff, the Essendon Football Club supporters and the football industry as a whole.

"I am requesting expedition of this appeal and will not ask for a stay of the notices. The players and ASADA will be able to continue with the show cause process whilst a full court deals with the legality of the investigation.

"I have not taken this decision lightly. I believe this is the right course or action and is in the best interests of the Essendon Football Club, its players, the supporters and the game.

"The short term simple approach would be to acquiesce and plead guilty to ASADA even though the players, the club and myself do not believe we have breached the rules. It would be a lie as would pleading out of the proceedings when I, my lawyers and the Essendon Football Club lawyers firmly believe that the investigation was conducted unlawfully and an appeal will be successful."
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Hird has gone all in, it is a very high stakes game he has chosen. If he is somehow successful, you wonder what other twists and turns might result, given Essendon and the players have effectively divorced themselves from his stance.
 
This is just insane imo.

Taken on all and sundry, lost at every turn, take it all the way Jim!
 
Surely the best way to ensure that the players aren't "stained forever by the innuendo, misconceptions and falsities that resulted from an investigation" is to force ASADA to present the evidence it believes it has collected. The worst way would be to quash ASADA's ability to require the players to respond to the SCNs, and thus the players' ability to demonstrate their innocence and/or ASADA's failure to provide sufficient proof.
 
Since I'm not a lawyer or a judge, could someone remind me what's different about Hird's case with ASADA and Essendon's case with ASADA? If hird wins the appeal, does that mean Essendon technically wins aswell, since their goal to throw out asada's evidence was common between them both?
 
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Since I'm not a lawyer or a judge, could someone remind me what's different about Hird's case with ASADA and Essendon's case with ASADA? If hird wins the appeal, does that mean Essendon technically wins aswell, since their goal to throw out asada's evidence was common between them both?
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I think the word "Essendon" will be withdrawn from proceedings and it will become the case between ASADA and the James Hird Football Club???
 

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So even when approached by senior players in an effort to convince him forget his appeal, he doesn't listen to them, the players.
But he still uses "them" as his "reason" to appeal.
Funny how his previous expedition into court it was all about costing him "personally and financially". Until he got his arse slapped and then outside the courthouse he managed to throw in "about the players".
They must be a club of mental short people to keep supporting him so earnestly.
 
The_Wookie said:
ref: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-02/statement-from-james-hird
"At no time in the 2012 season did I believe any Essendon player was exposed to any supplement or drug that fell outside the WADA, ASADA or AFL code. Two years since the end of that season I still do not believe any Essendon player took anything illegal. No one has shown me any evidence that would lead me to believe differently.
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Untill I see all ASADA's proof that the players took banned substances I really don't see the reason for all the hate.

The internet and the nameless faces that post are really akin to a frenzied mob ready to draw and quarter Hird.

Absolute disgrace IMO.
 
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fabulousphil said:
Untill I see all ASADA's proof that the players took banned substances I really don't see the reason for all the hate.

The internet and the nameless faces that post are really akin to a frenzied mob ready to draw and quarter Hird.

Absolute disgrace IMO.
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Because Hird is doing all he can to stop any proof that ASADA might have from seeing the light of day
 
fabulousphil said:
Untill I see all ASADA's proof that the players took banned substances I really don't see the reason for all the hate.

The internet and the nameless faces that post are really akin to a frenzied mob ready to draw and quarter Hird.

Absolute disgrace IMO.
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I agree somewhat. That would require challenging the evidence and answering the scn. Challenging the investigation does not seem to me to be the most effective way to achieve that.
 
Can any legal experts let us know his likelihood of winning said appeal? To my untrained eye it looks like his argument in the appeal was already addressed. Can or will he even have his appeal refused?
 
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