Hird vs Judd
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Judd hasn't been at his best for 4 years now. Admittedly, before that he was incredible. Since then his disposal in particular has been shocking at times and certainly not the player he was. If he doesn't get back to his best then Hird easily. If he does then he might have the edge, but I doubt it.
The King!
Chosen One
hird has an advantage he is retired, and once they go we tend to glorify them a bit. I like hirdy a lot more he isnt out killing my side on the paddock, i find i appreciate the highlights you see of him a lot more. But you dont get many videos of his turnovers.
Having said that hes still ahead, i also dont think judd is as loved by his supporters as much as hird is at essendon
Having said that hes still ahead, i also dont think judd is as loved by his supporters as much as hird is at essendon
Jade
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*bump*
I went to praise Hird on the Essendon board for his HOF admission, and started to list his achievements:
Norm Smith
Brownlow
Premiership Captain
5 x B&F
IR Captain
and then realised that Judd had met or exceeded some of these achievements.....
Then I started assigning these *
Norm Smith: Judd deserved it.
Brownlow*: First, most certainly couldn't say he didn't deserve it. Second, what a joke.
B&F*: Five times, two at West Coast, and than three at Carlton
Premiership Captain: ****************
Ben Cousins was the leader of that team, not Judd.
I went to praise Hird on the Essendon board for his HOF admission, and started to list his achievements:
Norm Smith
Brownlow
Premiership Captain
5 x B&F
IR Captain
and then realised that Judd had met or exceeded some of these achievements.....
Then I started assigning these *
Norm Smith: Judd deserved it.
Brownlow*: First, most certainly couldn't say he didn't deserve it. Second, what a joke.
B&F*: Five times, two at West Coast, and than three at Carlton
Premiership Captain: ****************
Ben Cousins was the leader of that team, not Judd.
Fighting a losing battle, jade. The fact that we're having this conversation while Judd is 27 and still one of the competition's elites says it all.
He plays at this level for another year or two, tapers off and plays 2 or 3 seasons at a reasonable level before retiring in his early 30s and it' becomes pretty clear cut.
Could quite possibly have another 100 games left in him, a 3rd Brownlow is a possibility and he might end up a dual premiership captain by 2014.
He plays at this level for another year or two, tapers off and plays 2 or 3 seasons at a reasonable level before retiring in his early 30s and it' becomes pretty clear cut.
Could quite possibly have another 100 games left in him, a 3rd Brownlow is a possibility and he might end up a dual premiership captain by 2014.
Fighting a losing battle, jade. The fact that we're having this conversation while Judd is 27 and still one of the competition's elites says it all.
He plays at this level for another year or two, tapers off and plays 2 or 3 seasons at a reasonable level before retiring in his early 30s and it' becomes pretty clear cut.
Could quite possibly have another 100 games left in him, a 3rd Brownlow is a possibility and he might end up a dual premiership captain by 2014.
Definite possibility my moneys on him or pendlebury for the brownlow this year.
Is this a joke? Hird is so far ahead of Judd it's embarrassing to compare them. When will people realise all Judd can do is run?
Hird had too much class and was the complete player.
Even after Judd ends his footy career, this will STILL apply!
Jade
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Really? Poll result says I'm fighting a winning battle.
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Even if Judd wins the next 3 Brownlows he will never overtake Hird in my eyes.
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What's pretty clear cut is that Judd is a lot more consistent and durable than Hird. If that's what you rate players by, then vote Judd.
But at their best Hird was a better player. Judd can win all the Brownlows and Premierships he likes, that won't change.
People tend to forget just how talented the guys who went into the HOF last night were. Only Ablett compares, all the other current mids have some glaring holes in their games.
bluepride
Club Legend
Now dont get me wrong I love Hird.
Best player of the 21st century and in my opinion Buckley doesn't even come close and Voss isnt that close ethier but closer).
People tend to forget that Judds best was somewhat magical, and had people saying "Wow that was good he couldnt do that again" 3 or 4 times a match.
I have watched many games of Hird and hes really not that close to Judds best, his 5 goal haul against the Lions ay the Gabba was memorizing and people were streaming through the gates at 1/4 just to get a glimpse of this 'freak'.
Even remember hearing some Lion supporters saying "Shame we only get to watch this bloke once a year" while Judd was single handling tear their side apart.
Judds best was better than Hirds and by a small margin as well.
High Ryder
Premiership Player
Hird.
Won us plenty of games we had no right in winning.
Lifted when the situation required.
Won us plenty of games we had no right in winning.
Lifted when the situation required.
so let me get this straight, hird was praised for winning a stoppage out of around 20 other guys that are around that stoppage, clearing the ball and also kicking it into space for his forwards to lead into. Jeez what a shocking thing to gain praise for.
Saying hird was better as a forward just shows how little you know about him. He was as verstatile as a player can be but his best work was still as a goal kicking midfielder.
I have a quetion for all of you voting judd. Is judd on the same level as ablett senior, carey and matthews? because that is the level that is above hird.
It is when many mid's do it and not only do it but regularly hit targets, the point was Hird used to get praised for (not just freakish) but doing just regular s**t that many others did with no man love ie he was overrated.
HyperAgressiveDonk
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Hird was a footballer, Judd is an athlete
bluepride
Club Legend
Lukr he wasnt overated at all, one of the best footballers iv seen in the last 20 years.
Whose better, well its scary to think Judd could have half a decade more of good football in him.
Yes Hird could play in many positions and dominated them all thats why I went down to watch him play, but its nearly like comparing apples and oranges.
But damn Judd was God-like in his prime.
Whose better, well its scary to think Judd could have half a decade more of good football in him.
Yes Hird could play in many positions and dominated them all thats why I went down to watch him play, but its nearly like comparing apples and oranges.
But damn Judd was God-like in his prime.
Scodog10
Brownlow Medallist
This is just about as good a summation as you'll ever get in one sentance!
To say Judd is an athlete takes away from his elite ball winning ability and contested possession game. He's much more than that.
