Mega Thread Hot Topic - Drugs and AFL

[FallingLiefs]

lol

Just hope the timing isn't an interest diverter from tomorrow's farce.

 

[Arsene Wenger]

wow - clenbuterol. This is what ALberto Contador got banned for. Its strips fat.

 

[MrMeaner]

If thats the case, they will never play again. Clenbuterol is a hardcore anabolic steroid.

Yep. it is only the 'A' sample so far.

 

[Arsene Wenger]

its also the same thing i think that Mick Rogers (another cyclist) tested positive for. It can come from contaminated meat too apparently...

Maybe the AFL are trying to square up the Anzac day game....

 

[MrMeaner]

This is my source of the information that it is clenbuterol:

 

[Arsene Wenger]

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/04/rogers-has-been-cleared-but-questions-about-clenbuterol-remain/
gives some decent insight into the drug and potential contamination.

 

[RossFC]

Collingwood board are saying delist both guys immediately.

 

[Killer Power]

AFL website saying clenbuterol
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-30/keeffe-thomas-test-positive

Borderline best 22 players chasing an advantage perhaps? Big difference in making it as an AFL player or slipping through the cracks. Would be tempting for those on the edge.

 

[Grave Danger]

"Please still like me?"

 

[blackcat]

Ok i must have misinterpreted what you wrote a couple years ago.

why was Swannie tested a couple of times at 6am?

to put the frighteners up him. cos they could see in the metabolites there was funny stuff going on

 

[blackcat]

cant take the boys out of Abbottsford.


#halfLife boys. remember Spider Everitt on the footy show re:Justin Charles. Why did he not just take an oral steroid? lol Spida

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Pick them up as DFAs??

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Pick them up as DFAs??

Drug Free Agents?

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

why was Swannie tested a couple of times at 6am?

to put the frighteners up him. cos they could see in the metabolites there was funny stuff going on

Ah that rings a bell. Did Asada tell collingwood and did you get this from the media? Im pretty sure you mentioned a couple of other names when I read your post at the time.

 

[blackcat]

Ah that rings a bell. Did Asada tell collingwood and did you get this from the media? Im pretty sure you mentioned a couple of other names when I read your post at the time.

now you remind me, they did target test other Collingwood players, including Maxxie. Cant remember about Harry O, but it could have been him too.

they used to room together when they were rookies dont forget

 

[AdamMarrett]

You have to wonder about the intelligence of some of these players after the mud our great game has been dragged through for 2 odd years,1st Saad then Crowley then these 2.Reading the ASADA guy Richard Ings on twitter if these 2 have their B sample test positive their looking at a long suspension.Not a good time for our game atm.

 

[Jonts]

Would Take them both as rookies here

trying to trade j Thomas out of my fantasy elite team asap before wind catches on

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Would Take them both as rookies here

trying to trade j Thomas out of my fantasy elite team asap before wind catches on

They wont be able to be rookie drafted before December 2017 rookie draft if the B sample is positive.

 

[Adz2332]

so timing is to take the focus away from them after tomorrows verdict? Collingwood players who?

 

[Andre]

so timing is to take the focus away from them after tomorrows verdict? Collingwood players who?

Can only be a positive (ahem) for us. There's no black & white with that. Clearly performance enhancing, known as banned, done outside the club etc. Won't have an effect on the Pies this year unless they get a few injuries, as it's just reducing depth players available.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-face-positive-drug-test-20150330-1maznj.html

The players have both been suspended after recording a failed test in the A sample collected earlier in the year. The B sample is due to be tested and returned in April. Clenbuterol is on the WADA banned list as a performance enhancing drug.

Dont believe the BS PR spin you are going to here about Clenbuterol and how the players may have innocently taken it. A couple of weeks ago there was a story on 7.30 story about outlaw motorcycle gangs supplying illegal - not just banned from sports, but illegal - PEDs. From the 7.30 transcript and you can watch the story at the link

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2015/s4194226.htm
LEIGH SALES, PRESENTER: Police and health experts are warning of an explosion in the use of illegal performance-enhancing steroids. Anabolic steroids have long been used by athletes and body builders, but increasingly they're being peddled to school-aged boys. Like any user, they risk severe side effects, including an increased risk of prostate cancer, stroke, heart attack and depression.

In the last six months of last year, Customs intercepted 3,000 steroid shipments arriving in Australia. The centre of the steroid business is Queensland's Gold Coast, where police claim outlaw motorcycle gangs are muscling in on the trade. 7.30 has been given exclusive access to raids carried out by Queensland's anti-bikie Taskforce Maxima in a major crackdown on steroid traffickers.

Mark Willacy has this report.

......

MARK WILLACY: According to police, outlaw bikie gangs are increasingly muscling their way into the steroid trade, often ordering the drugs on overseas internet sites and having them shipped right to their door.

These parcels were delivered to a home near Brisbane as it was being raided by police looking for steroids. The packages had come all the way from China, which along with Thailand is seen as a major source of steroids and human growth hormone.

Inside the packages are pills and vials of steroids, including Clenbuterol. It's known as a "shredder" because it burns off fat cells and increases strength. It's one of the steroids that last year was listed as a Schedule One dangerous drug.

MICK NILAND: Which means it's in the same rankings as heroin, cocaine and methamphetamine. So possession of these drugs can carry a term of 15 years' imprisonment and trafficking in these dangerous drugs, the steroids, can carry up to 25 years' imprisonment.

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2015/s4194226.htm

 

[Byrons Firen]

Contaminated meat or asthma or.......awwww.........schucks guys,innocent mistake........honest.
When is the "B' sample results out?
If this is true then see you beginning of 2017, if at all...........ever.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

And here is a ABC Radio National audio link to their story about how Clenbuterol

http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/2014/03/lms_20140304_0906.mp3

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/lifematters/clenbuterol/5295716

Originally used to treat respiratory illnesses in horses, Clenbuterol is increasingly being used by recreational bodybuilders and dieters.

The drug, famously used by cyclist Alberto Contador, boosts aerobic capacity. However it has not been approved for human use and 63 people have overdosed in the past decade.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/lifematters/clenbuterol/5295716

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Contaminated meat or asthma or.......awwww.........schucks guys,innocent mistake........honest.
When is the "B' sample results out?
If this is true then see you beginning of 2017, if at all...........ever.

Ah yes the Alberto Contador defence. As I posted in my previous link Patrick Keane has said the B sample results will be ready on 14th April. They are provisionally suspended at the moment.

 

[FallingLiefs]

Sounds like these guys are some of the first to come under WADA's new code of 4 years for systematic doping. 2 years only if they can prove it was unintentional consumption.