Lol. Alright mate. I don't agree in the slightest with this but I can see you are steadfast in your want to believe Beams does not defend, even though your explanations make little sense.
How good is Dayne Beams?
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How doesn't make sense?
Okay so what I've taken from this:
- Beams runs defensively but does not chase a man so therefore does not work defensively.
- Swan gut runs but does not defend (I'm picturing him on a greyhound track for this one)
- Beams and Swan have won 4 B&F's between them despite having no defensive side to their games, unless they are or are not following a man around
Thank you for this post. See above for my summary of todays postings.
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Sorry mate but where have i said he runs defensively? dont bring other posters comments into mine. Clearly you only want to hear what you want.Okay so what I've taken from this:
- Beams runs defensively but does not chase a man so therefore does not work defensively.
- Beams doesn't chase his man back but will occasionally work defensively
- Swan gut runs but does not defend (I'm picturing him on a greyhound track for this one)
- Beams and Swan have won 4 B&F's between them despite having no defensive side to their games, unless they are or are not following a man around
What i have stated is VERY simple to comprehend.
You do realise you can gut run but not chase defensively yeah? lol. Anyways i'll leave it at that. Just trying to help you out about his game style.
Like i said, he will be your best player and you got him at a great age.
Yes I combined thoughts from my exchange with the other pies poster as well.
So where is he running when the opposition has the ball? The tan?
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Well dont combine others when trying to argue my point lol. wow.
When the opposition have the ball he runs back but not chasing the opponent then all of a sudden when we got the ball he would run into space like a flash to get it. You will find this out. Anyways ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Out
LOL. Peace dude.
Well if he applies no defensive pressure only attack, he would be well down the list in our midfield.
He would essentially be another Polec. I smell opposition rectal discharge.
He would essentially be another Polec. I smell opposition rectal discharge.
Beams will be Brisbane's best player. He is one of the best midfielders in the game.
He isn't terribly accountable though, his defensive game deserves criticism. Literally his only weakness though imo.
He isn't terribly accountable though, his defensive game deserves criticism. Literally his only weakness though imo.
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Collingwood have long been criticised for running one way, Beams and Swan are great players but defence is not their strength, this is known. It doesn't matter much, he has weaknesses like every single other player.
You're confusing defensive pressure with being accountable to an opponent. He has no issue with applying defensive pressure at stoppages and contests, but he doesn't run back and defend as much as he should.
Any Brisbane fan who is up in arms about this claim is just ridiculous. It's a reasonable and accurate comment on him, and it's probably his only weakness as a footballer.
FMD this BS does my head in.
Beams and for that matter Swan are gun attacking midfielders. To say they only run one way is downright idiotic. To say they attack far more than they defend on the other hand is a different matter entirely and fankly when you attack as well as them it would be silly to sacrifice much of that attack for running the other (wrong in their case) way. Leave that for the less talented or the rare perfect midfielder. I can't off the top think of many. Certainly not Ablett and sure as heck not Judd. One who does it as well as anyone is Dale Thomas.
Luke Ball ran both ways. Only slower and with much less impact in an attacking sense. This is the same nonsense that saw Didak under pressure when his side desperately needed his attacking flair.
Horses for courses.
Beams and for that matter Swan are gun attacking midfielders. To say they only run one way is downright idiotic. To say they attack far more than they defend on the other hand is a different matter entirely and fankly when you attack as well as them it would be silly to sacrifice much of that attack for running the other (wrong in their case) way. Leave that for the less talented or the rare perfect midfielder. I can't off the top think of many. Certainly not Ablett and sure as heck not Judd. One who does it as well as anyone is Dale Thomas.
Luke Ball ran both ways. Only slower and with much less impact in an attacking sense. This is the same nonsense that saw Didak under pressure when his side desperately needed his attacking flair.
Horses for courses.
Better than Rocky, Hanley or Zorko? All 3 are defensive and ballwinners and attackers.
Imagine if you were right!
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They aren't as good at attacking and ball winning as Beams.
If you think Zorko will be on a level with Beams, let alone ahead, you're in for a nice surprise this year. Not even close to Beams' quality. The guy beat out Pendlebury for a B & F and deserved it.
So then, are you one of the minority or majority Brisbane supporters? Let's be honest, the only reason you posted that first post was to goad opposition supporters...
I mean, if we're going to use your logic then the following players over the trade period have become more valuable than Gary Ablett and Lance Franklin:
Rockliff
Hanley
Rich
Redden
Aish
Mayes
Zorko
Green
Taylor
Aka the untouchables. By definition, untouchable would mean that none of these Brisbane players could be touched at the trade table. By extension, this means that Brisbane wouldn't do a straight swap of any of these players for Ablett or Buddy, meaning that Brisbane rate this group of players above Ablett and Buddy
. Fun, isn't it?As for Beams, he was a gun for Collingwood and I'll be very surprised if he isn't a gun for Brisbane. Sure he's got weaknesses in his game but unless your name is Gary Ablett Jnr then you have weaknesses in your game.
Thanks mate, am looking forward to the demise of the tagger next year.
hasn't made a tackle in months, spud
3rd best mid at Brisbane...
Rockliff by a long way
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Rockliff by a long way
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Is Beams really a top 5 mid based on one year of top quality footy?
I wouldn't have him ahead of GAblett, Danger, Pendles, Kennedy, Fyfe, Boak and Selwood.
I wouldn't have him ahead of GAblett, Danger, Pendles, Kennedy, Fyfe, Boak and Selwood.
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2 years of top quality footy, would have been 3 if he wasn't injured in 2013
And who said he is a top 5 mid anyway?
Beams is a dead set legend.
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Some pretty classic responses from bitter Collingwood fans in here, first few pages of this thread are full of jizz for him, then he goes and they turn on him straight away.
What a great club.
What a great club.
