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He isn't but let's hope he stays moderate on defence and slander of Muslim population.
How will the 2016 Federal Election pan out?
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He isn't but let's hope he stays moderate on defence and slander of Muslim population.
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Since Christmas the government has sacked two ministers for impropriety, been found to have lied about the removal of aid workers from the detention gulags, and now is being accused of trying to exert editorial control over the ABC. All those outraged by the previous government have sure as hell lowered their standards of expectation when it comes to this one.
There have been redistributions in NSW, WA, ACT and NT that makes for interesting reading.
http://www.aec.gov.au/Electorates/Redistributions/index.htm
http://www.aec.gov.au/Electorates/Redistributions/index.htm
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Looks like Clive Palmer's chances of holding onto his seat has been reduced dramatically.
BTW-keep these 4 dates in mind for a likely Election Day: 3rd September, 8th October, 19th November, 10th December.
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BTW-keep these 4 dates in mind for a likely Election Day: 3rd September, 8th October, 19th November, 10th December.
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Dick Smith wants to take on Bronwyn Bishop.
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The NSW seat of McKellar will certainly be one to watch on Election night.
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If Malcolm Turnbull can maintain his lead over Bill Shorten right up until the election night, the result could be a foregone conclusion. The only thing that stands between Turnbull and yet another term in office, is how the budget will fare. Scott Morrison must be in a no-win situation right now in terms of the budget.
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Fear not about the economy and ScoMo. We all know the Libs are the ones who are the economic wizards so all's well. Plus, the deficit blowing out is just a myth put about by all those lefties.
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And he has to. The last thing the Liberals need on the eve of a federal election, is an all-out war on pre selections in NSW.
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Coalition will win because Labor keep fighting the wrong battles and can't get decent policies. If Labor got their act together they could win easy, but sticking with climate change taxes and fighting the GST increase are bad policies that won't see them win.
Abbott might have done Labor a favour by announcing he's planning to go around again. I think there would be plenty of people (like myself) who would be happy to see Turnbull stay in the job, but even the slightest possibility, however unlikely, of Abbott grabbing the leadership back is an unpleasant thought.
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It's not like the ALP where Rudd was the only person capable of taking over from Gillard. In the incredibly unlikely event they decide to shaft Turnbull, Bishop and Morrison both would have more support than TA. Even the conservatives in the party know TA is finished.
He stayed in parliament because he can't really do anything else and has a nice little side earner on the public speaking circuit.
The thing is..those are the policies of difference with the Coalition.
Most people on the street do not want a GST increase under any circumstance - hence they would vote for the party that is promising that.
Labor should just do a Bernie Sanders and admit outright they are raising taxes because they want government to provide better for the people. Unfortunately such a strategy is too brave for Shorten.
Yeah right. Taxes are bad for the economy but GST is not ?
The UK has 20% GST but I don't see their income taxes 10% lower than equivalent economies. Just a big con.
The UK has 20% GST but I don't see their income taxes 10% lower than equivalent economies. Just a big con.
Suppose malc has a huge landslide at the next election, but most of the new MPs support a return to Abbott Politics, just wait for popularity to wane then strike. In some ways Turnbull needs to manage his lead down to as close as he thinks he will get away with. Unless he can purge out the righties
Peter Costello made the point well, and that was that Liberals like winners. Howard had a loyal following that followed him over the cliff in 2007, because they felt loyalty after many were first elected in 1996. Howard developed relationships with these MPs and their loyalty was his reward.
On the other hand, Rudd was not of the Liberal Party so as soon as things got bad in the polls, there was little loyalty felt. For Abbott, the polls were disastrous and if there is one things MPs absolutely detest, it is having those who are not elected elevated to their status or above. Abbott's undying loyalty to Credlin was the most crucial aspect to his downfall.
So if the polls stay good for the Liberals through the cycle and Turnbull wins handsomely, he will have the opportunity to engender that goodwill into personal loyalty. Whether that happens remains to be seen.
On the other hand, Rudd was not of the Liberal Party so as soon as things got bad in the polls, there was little loyalty felt. For Abbott, the polls were disastrous and if there is one things MPs absolutely detest, it is having those who are not elected elevated to their status or above. Abbott's undying loyalty to Credlin was the most crucial aspect to his downfall.
So if the polls stay good for the Liberals through the cycle and Turnbull wins handsomely, he will have the opportunity to engender that goodwill into personal loyalty. Whether that happens remains to be seen.
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If Costello bothered to challenge in 2007 the 'loyalty' would've gone away for many of them.
He didn't challenge because he didn't have the numbers, and he wasn't prepared to destroy the village in order to save it.
Turnbull thought differently.
Turnbull thought differently.
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Keating made it work.
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They never have the numbers at the beginning. He didn't challenge because he is all tip and no iceburg
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No because they'll be looking at 3 terms and why would you jeopardize that to bring back someone that the electorate hates. These days Abbott has no political value other than doing the odd function to keep the lunatic fringe portion of the electorate happy in the LNP. And even in that role there are plenty of bozos out there who can say the same things.
Also, and this is a bit of a guess, the conservatives in the libs who would support Abbott's return would be less than 1/4 of the party room. So much of his support as PM came from incumbency. Even when he was voted in as opposition leader it was more by accident than having the support of the party.
The right was happy to purge the wets back then which kept them out of government
