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speedytiger said:
I need to soak in the positive messages in this thread myself, just lost my job yesterday and my head is spinning
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Some really tough times at the moment for a number of industries. What were you doing Speedy and whereabouts?
 
NT.Thunder said:
Some really tough times at the moment for a number of industries. What were you doing Speedy and whereabouts?
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I've managed advanced tree nurseries for the last 14 years. The industry is going fine but the site leases keep expiring on me or they relocate miles away. I have some interviews next week but am considering changing industries. Something with a higher ceiling and good security? Carlton coach perhaps?
 
speedytiger said:
I've managed advanced tree nurseries for the last 14 years. The industry is going fine but the site leases keep expiring on me or they relocate miles away. I have some interviews next week but am considering changing industries. Something with a higher ceiling and good security? Carlton coach perhaps?
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I'd say you're in with a good chance:D

All the best for the interviews next week. Let us know how you go:rainbow::hearts:
 

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speedytiger said:
I've managed advanced tree nurseries for the last 14 years. The industry is going fine but the site leases keep expiring on me or they relocate miles away. I have some interviews next week but am considering changing industries. Something with a higher ceiling and good security? Carlton coach perhaps?
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I imagine you're trying to avoid depression somewhat so this is not a good option IMO.
 
This is like Philosphers' Corner.

I used to worry about the Four Last Things. When I started doing my catechism when I was 4, I would puzzle over the notion that God had no beginning and no end. That didn't make sense. You always had to start somewhere. I was told that this and other matters were beyond our human comprehension, and that we must have faith. That wasn't a very convincing argument.

Now I don't care either way. It's comforting to imagine that there is a god/goddess, and a meaningful purpose to our existence, but such convictions won't affect my behaviour.

I'd be even more comforted by the notion that there is some form of existence after death, because there are so many loved ones I want to see again; and I don't want to miss anything. :D
 
Magpie Girl said:
Hey speedytiger how are the job prospects going?
More importantly, how are you?
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Good timing to ask MG, i'm pretty sure i landed a job today :D

I'm ok, had some great support this week from friends which gave me a real lift.
 

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Tempest, i have no idea what to say as im not qualified in any sense to guide you, but i dont want to leave this thread without saying something. I am in no way in as bad a situation than you but losing my job last week was a huge shock and sent my brain spinning. Even when i could sleep my dreams were messed up. Can i tell you the only time i could get any clarity at all was when i went for a jog. Seriously everything else i do my mind is cluttered and unable to produce any sensible outcome but go for a run and i can get some clarity.

I dont know if you regulary exercise but maybe even go for a good long walk, get the blood pumping and you might get some benefit.
 
Tempest - Sorry to read about how tough things are right now but thank you so much for sharing. I'm not sure you don't know just how powerful your posts are and I appreciate you sharing your tough times. Your posts I'm sure do so much good for others and you should be proud of the courage you have to share your difficulties with us from which you should take some positives out of.

Just penning this says to me that you are determined to make it work and try to do everything possible to fix your life and that of your close family. Sure things have happened but it's never too late to mend bridges. Sorry to hear about your grandfather but it seems at these tough times your family needs you to be the strong one and to help them through this, you need to be there for your Nan, Auntie and your mum. You also need to be there for your two little cousins as I'm sure they enjoy the time with you as much as you enjoy spending time with them. I'm sure your auntie needs your help now more than ever with them.

I agree with SpeedyTiger also regarding exercise. We all go through tough times and granted many of us have never been through what you are going through but when I need to clear my head the first thing I do is take the dog for a walk and listen to music. An hour just goes by like that! Fresh air, Melbourne is a beautiful place and there's plenty of good places to clear your mind.

Now I know nothing about the medication you're on and I know there are a few on here that do professionally - but I thought these meds take some time to actually work 100% so trust your specialist and give these things time.

You're such an engaging writer in your posts above, as sad as it is reading about your troubles you really do have a gift in engaging with people through these posts and I would encourage you to maybe look at writing more as long as it doesn't hurt too much. Doesn't have to be on here, but you could write a book about your life over time which may give you an avenue to get some of these things of your chest. I'm sure there are so many people that can relate to you and I'm sure you do and can, help so many through these words.

Stay strong Tempest, for your family at home and on here and more importantly for yourself. Take it slowly, enjoy your time doing the things that clear you mind and make you happy and have trust in those trying to help you.
 
It's significant that you posted this on the night of a great come-back triumph. Tempest. Your story and Collingwood's - both stories of survival. Despite a year of drama worthy of an entire season of Game of Thrones you're still here, and still telling your story. That means you have a core of inner strength that's giving you the power to hold on, just as our boys did yesterday. That's real courage - not the spectacular heroics that few of us get to perform - but the power to overcome the everyday downers, the seemingly constant setbacks, despite anxiety and feelings od despair.

Things will turn for you. It just takes one opportunity, one meeting, one piece of good luck combined with the sustained effort to get where you want to be.

I think poems make everything better. Here's a great one by Rudyard Kipling. It encapsulates an entire life philosophy in 4 stanzas. Note the bolded bits in particular.

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

I know that none of us can do all of the above, and most of us can't achieve most of it most of the time. But IF (as Dave would say :p) you can continue to strive to hold on to life, and try to believe that things will get better, it'll be a win as glorious as our victory yesterday. :thumbsu:
 
Hey Tempest, mine and your stories have similarities. My parents divorced when I was young, although my Mum didn't put a restraining order on me we have hardly spoken in the past 15 years as she remarried.

I'm also on the DSP for mental health issues and I'm pretty sure you are not obliged to attend appointments if you do not feel you are up for it which from your stories pretty clearly indicates you are not ready for the rigours of holding employment. I don't rock up as I'm looking to study instead and nothing happens to me. Wait until your in the right frame of mind before you start work.

Focus on getting your living situation right, try not to worry about your Mum, she's got her own problems, work out what you wanna do, stick to your budget, you will struggle to run a car on a pension but I rent my own 2 bedroom apartment on the DSP and although things are tight I still have enough left to have a few beers most nights and I live by myself.

If you get your money right things will be a lot less stressful and take as long as you need to get right, it won't happen in 3 months. Maybe study is the more suitable option for you at this stage.

Above all keep your chin up, don't go doing anything stupid and keep following those mighty Pies. It gets better trust me, in time you'll realise your better off not seeing your Mum much as an adult, she's just a fallible human just like yourself. Work on getting your own housing and financial independence and the world will open up for you, just be patient.

All the best.
 
Hi Tempest,

I don't remember posting in this thread before, but I did post in another thread of yours (I think I have depression)? and I touched on my issues. To recap, I had a bad run in life, tried to top myself, went to a GP and was diagnosed with depression and SAD. A couple of (a few) years and a lot of tears later I'm doing ok, off the meds and living a normal life:). I still have my ups and downs, BUT THAT'S NORMAL! I'd love to tell you that the key to feeling better is to follow plan X, but I can't, so here's a few things that worked for me.

1. Avoid alchohol and caffeine. ( you can have a few, but not a lot) I'd add that you should eat a healthy diet, but ummm, I cant do that because my diet is a joke.
2. Excercise - just a walk or run is ok, but anything will do, it helps you clear your mind (unless your at the gym, then your head can spin while watching the hotties:))
3. Keep going to a GP - find one you like, establish a relationship, visit them regularly (say 3 monthly) and if you feel a bit off, see them ASAP!
4. Know that what your going through is normal. Damn near everyone in the world will have some sort of mental health issue sometime during their life, it may go undiagnosed, or they may try and "tough it out", but in reality it's the strong person who'll recognise that they have an issue and seek help.
5. Remember that you have friends, even when you think no-one cares:)

Smokey
 
speedytiger said:
Tempest, i have no idea what to say as im not qualified in any sense to guide you, but i dont want to leave this thread without saying something. I am in no way in as bad a situation than you but losing my job last week was a huge shock and sent my brain spinning. Even when i could sleep my dreams were messed up. Can i tell you the only time i could get any clarity at all was when i went for a jog. Seriously everything else i do my mind is cluttered and unable to produce any sensible outcome but go for a run and i can get some clarity.

I dont know if you regulary exercise but maybe even go for a good long walk, get the blood pumping and you might get some benefit.
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Hi I dont normally wade through all the threads on BF. I just saw this one & had a look.

I work in the medical system & a lot with patients. Anyone feeling down or overwhelmed should always talk to their GP. Its a common thing to have things happen & feel a build up of pressures & getting depressed over things. Its the brain being stressed. So talking to a good GP is important.

Exercise is the best thing. It gives a release of endorphins & a good flow of blood & O2 into the brain. But also it gets you to focus on the exercise so your brain gets a rest from the other things going round & round in your head. Even just going for a good brisk walk, with or without a friend to chat to.

The other thing is to watch a replay of 2010:p. that makes me feel all good again.

Anyway guys, good to see you talking & supporting each other. Thats great to see.

Just remember, everyone runs into problems & difficulties, you are human, you cant do everything. So do talk to the GP, family & friends as much as you are able.

Go Pies!
 
I really admire the way that you are hanging in through this ordeal. NT Thunder is right to have you focus on the positive things in your life - your little cousins, your mum's increased desire for contact, medication that helps you cope with anxiety better, if not the depression, and your writing talent which shines like a beacon through your posts. Coming clean with the apsergers on bigfooty gives us another level of understanding of what you are up against in your personal life. Can you go back to your aunt's doctor given that she seems to genuinely care about patients? Can you return to study and finish your IT qualification? Keep us posted and use us as a sounding board for your frustrations and depression. There are some good times mixed in with the hard times you describe.

What do you have to do to get your car back on the road?
 
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