Is it fair to say that our society is sick? Our collective mind infantile?

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Any number of pieces of evidence could be used to support such a claim. Here I will offer just one.

Brian Taylor uses the word 'NTTAWWTter' during a tv broadcast. Hundreds (thousands?) of replies are made to bigfooty's thread(s) on the topic within hours. Much outrage is vented. People call for Taylor to be sacked from his livelihood; some rejoice when he is punished, while others get angry that he wasn't punished more harshly.

Channel 7, the AFL and Hawthorn FC combine to create and air a subtle (undisclosed) advertisement in primetime aimed to promote the ADF as a friendly, fun, positive organisation and encourage young people to enlist. About 130 replies are made to the thread on the topic, and less than 30% of respondents to the poll indicate that they see any problem with what had been done.

Using a naughty word: reprehensible. Using sports stars to encourage kids to sign up to become trained killers, pillagers and mercenaries: meh.

Is society sick or are you just having a tanty because you were hoping for more replies / discussion in your other thread?

Perhaps people just don't find your subject matter interesting.
 
I have never been accused of that before but fine if it suits.

unfortunately calling someone a NTTAWWTter on tv probably doesn't work these days. Do you disagree?

in regards to the ADF do you not think this organisation could be a great training ground for young men and women to complete their university or get a trade. Sure it could and should be better but is there anything wrong with an organisation that pays people to learn?

Sure the ADF has a role to play in war, many of which I don't agree with. but there are many "conflicts" like east timor and other failed state operations that have saved many lives and were for worthy causes. Do you not see any positives in the ADF? Sure it is easy to see the negatives but that is easy to do with anything.

Just try and only see the positives or the negatives you can change. You will be at peace with yourself, far more constructive and possibly even useful.
LOL.
You sold out thar PoRay
 

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Any number of pieces of evidence could be used to support such a claim. Here I will offer just one.

Brian Taylor uses the word 'NTTAWWTter' during a tv broadcast. Hundreds (thousands?) of replies are made to bigfooty's thread(s) on the topic within hours. Much outrage is vented. People call for Taylor to be sacked from his livelihood; some rejoice when he is punished, while others get angry that he wasn't punished more harshly.

Channel 7, the AFL and Hawthorn FC combine to create and air a subtle (undisclosed) advertisement in primetime aimed to promote the ADF as a friendly, fun, positive organisation and encourage young people to enlist. About 130 replies are made to the thread on the topic, and less than 30% of respondents to the poll indicate that they see any problem with what had been done.

Using a naughty word: reprehensible. Using sports stars to encourage kids to sign up to become trained killers, pillagers and mercenaries: meh.

Is society sick or are you just having a tanty because you were hoping for more replies / discussion in your other thread?

Perhaps people just don't find your subject matter interesting.
 

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Collective society reflects the best and worst of humanity.

I have seen our society be considerate, kind and generous.

I have also seen our society be unforgiving, unwise and immoderate.


I disagree with your philosophy.

Collective society doesn't vacillate often, or quickly when it does. People are entrenched in their political and social views, change takes generations.

The facts some elements of society are benevolent or malevolent doesn't reflect collective society, just fringe groups, or individuals.

Aus. society in particular is very conservative, in fact the culture hasn't changed much at all over the last ~20 years or so. And if you're talking about collective society then you have to used averages/cultural trends not singular events, such as a generous act or an evil act(and then to say that represents collective culture is wrong).
 
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I disagree with your philosophy.

Collective society doesn't vacillate often, or quickly when it does. People are entrenched in their political and social views, change takes generations.

The facts some elements of society are benevolent or malevolent doesn't reflect collective society, just fringe groups, or individuals.

Aus. society in particular is very conservative, in fact the culture hasn't changed much at all over the last ~20 years or so. And if you're talking about collective society then you have to used averages/cultural trends not singular events, such as a generous act or an evil act(and then to say that represents collective culture is wrong).

The sum is greater than its parts. I feel that society is a pretty good reflection of all our combined strengths and weaknesses. There are outliers on either end of the spectrum, but people are generally homogeneous in what they experience, such as love, envy, happiness, sadness, purposefulness, hopelessness, etc. The only difference is the choices we makes, our individual capacities, the breadth of our experience, and our creativity.

Cultural or societal change can be gradual, but at the same time we know individual change can be instant with the right motivation. Given that society is the sum of many individuals, I'm positive that the capacity for transformation can be developed with the right motivation at a larger scale.
 
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Brian Taylor uses the word 'NTTAWWTter' during a tv broadcast. Hundreds (thousands?) of replies are made to bigfooty's thread(s) on the topic within hours. Much outrage is vented. People call for Taylor to be sacked from his livelihood; some rejoice when he is punished, while others get angry that he wasn't punished more harshly.
On BT, people want him sacked because he is a pathetic caller of the game, the NTTAWWTter comment was something that people hoped would be the ammunition that Ch7 and 3AW needed to get rid of his annoying stupid screams.

As for our sick society, the question really is it any sicker than
20 years ago? Yes. In the mid-90s things were better, people more trusting, migrants welcomed, minority groups were getting a stronger acceptance in society.
40 years ago? No. White Australia had just finished, Asian migrant, were hated, gays stayed in the closet, minority groups were told to assimulate and adapt to us as we weren't going to adapt to them, women were gaining some rights but were still expected to have 3 kids and the dinner on the table for the husband when he got home, domestic violence was not talked about and battered wife syndrome was something people thought came from the fish & chip shop, aboriginies were referred to as black fellas and treated as second class citizens.
60 years ago? No. But it was better then if you were a hetrosexual anglo-saxon male.
 
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As for our sick society, the question really is it any sicker than
20 years ago? Yes. In the mid-90s things were better, people more trusting, migrants welcomed, minority groups were getting a stronger acceptance in society.

Garbage. The 90s were no more or less trusting than now. Migrants were welcome then as now, just not the illegal ones. Quick quiz: who first coined the term 'queue jumpers' to describe boat people and when did he do it? As for minority groups, gays have it much better now than they did then.
 
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False flag.

Kaiapoi club officials, who declined to be named, were adamant that decision was not related to his sexuality. Sources close to his family also backed up the club's assertion.

Claydon – known in Kaiapoi as Jeremy Claydon – was a promising rugby player who represented the South Island at junior age-group level in 2004. He was selected for the Kaiapoi senior team while he was still at secondary school and helped them win the North Canterbury championship in 2006.

He was also a North Canterbury senior representative that season. But he left the club the following year and joined Belfast.

Former Belfast coach Don Fisher said Claydon "certainly wasn't barred from our club". "We had no issues with him and he was a valued member of our club."​

Read these two articles on the topic, from Derryn Hinch:

http://www.humanheadline.com.au/hinch-says/some-poster-boy

http://www.humanheadline.com.au/hinch-says/shoot-the-messenger

Paints a very different picture.
 
Garbage. The 90s were no more or less trusting than now. Migrants were welcome then as now, just not the illegal ones. Quick quiz: who first coined the term 'queue jumpers' to describe boat people and when did he do it? As for minority groups, gays have it much better now than they did then.

Paul or Pauline?
 
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Garbage. The 90s were no more or less trusting than now. Migrants were welcome then as now, just not the illegal ones. Quick quiz: who first coined the term 'queue jumpers' to describe boat people and when did he do it? As for minority groups, gays have it much better now than they did then.

"Garbage. The 90s were no more or less trusting than now. "

How is their view any more garbage then yours ? Its a completely subjective matter.
 
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Garbage. The 90s were no more or less trusting than now. Migrants were welcome then as now, just not the illegal ones. Quick quiz: who first coined the term 'queue jumpers' to describe boat people and when did he do it? As for minority groups, gays have it much better now than they did then.
In the 90s I could actually walk down a city street at 4am on a Sunday morning without worrying about the groups with the dangerous mix of alcohol and energy drinks running through there system, yes there were drunks but if you knew what you were doing you were safe.
 
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In the 90s I could actually walk down a city street at 4am on a Sunday morning without worrying about the groups with the dangerous mix of alcohol and energy drinks running through there system, yes there were drunks but if you knew what you were doing you were safe.

Depends who you were and where. In the 90s Gay bashing was a prevalent phenomenon. Much more so than today.
 

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Pro-establishment once again from Power Raid. Almost like there is a pattern.

Good soldier boy, which is ok because in times of peril,the thinking ones, make the right call. Look at Martin Hamilton Smith.

Exept ones who get given VC's and meet the queen and s**t.
 
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