Knightmare's 2012 Mock Draft

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    ------------------Potential A-Graders--------------------
    1. Jake Stringer
    2. Lachlan Whitfield
    3. Jaeger O’Meara (GC – 17 Y/O)
    4. Jack Viney (Melb – F/S)
    5. Nick Vlastuin
    6. Brad Crouch (Adel – 17 Y/O)
    7. Brodie Grundy
    8. Joe Daniher (Ess – F/S)
    9. Jimmy Toumpas
    10. Mason Shaw
    ------------------Potentially high level AFL players--------------------
    11. Kristian Jaksch
    12. James Stewart (Coll – F/S)
    13. Craig Moller (Freo – NSW/ACT)
    14. Josh Simpson
    15. Liam Mcbean
    16. Sam Mayes
    17. Adam Carter
    18. Jonothon O’Rourke
    19. Rory Atkins
    20. Oliver Wines
    21. Corey Chalmers
    22. Jason Pongracic
    23. Tanner Smith
    24. Aaron Luccon
    25. Lachlan Plowman
    26. Jed Anderson (GWS – likely NT Zone)
    27. Troy Menzel
    28. Ben Kennedy
    29. Laine Wilkins
    30. Anthony Bonaddio
    31. Emmanuel Irra
    32. Nathan Wright
    33. Nic Amato
    34. Dayle Garlett
    35. Matthew Haynes
    ----------------Potential AFL Quality-----------------
    36. Christopher Yarran
    37. Shannon Taylor
    38. Matthew McDonough
    39. Tim Membrey
    40. Lachie Hunter (WBD – F/S)


    Minidraft (2011):
    #1 Gold Coast - Jaeger O’Meara (WA - Mid)
    Height: 183cm, Weight: 78kg, DOB: 23/02/1994
    Recruited from: Perth Football Club
    Style: Gary Ablett
    Player comparison:
    Range (2012): 1-2
    Profile: Has absolutely elite speed – 2.80 of 20m. Endurance is incredibly high – 14+ beep test. Really looks like a sensational athlete already and has huge AFL potential. He makes good use of his speed and can take players on like few others and reminds you so much of a Judd or Ablett with the way he can go. Has that rare vision and awareness to go with it. Big time clearance player. Probably more outside than inside at this stage. Overhead marking good. Gets high tackling numbers. Decision making can be iffy at times, but improving. Can kick both feet incredibly well but could certainly work on consistent by foot and hit targets and finish more consistently, certainly not as polished as Whitfield yet but is well on his way but when his kicking is on can hit at will and kicks it like homing missiles which gives me confidence that this aspect of his game will improve and develop that consistency. Also would like to see him hit the scoreboard more. But everything he can do and already does suggests that he will go on to be a special player.
    Why:

    #2 Adelaide - Brad Crouch (VIC - Mid)
    Height: 184cm, Weight: 83kg, DOB: 12/01/1994
    Recruited from: North Ballarat Rebels
    Style:
    Player comparison: Luke Ball
    Range (2012): 3-5
    Profile: Really strong inside player. Could play AFL footy now. Very ready to go. Physically is ready. Has a complete game. Really hard worker and will never die wondering. Future captain material. Ball use very good and is good by both hand and foot. Speed good. Very low risk guy where you know what you’ve got, and you know he will succeed in a big way at the next level.
    Why:

    GWS - NT Zone:
    Jed Anderson (NT – Mid/Util)
    Height: 178cm, Weight: 75kg, DOB: 16/02/1994
    Recruited from: Darwin
    Style:
    Player comparison:
    Range: 10-35 (GWS can sign through zone selection – likely)
    Profile: Anderson is a really high level contested ball winner. During the 2011 U18 Champs was the best from NT and really displayed his talent as a bottom age player. Has some versatility to play through the midfield, up forward or down back. Skill level very good and decision making in congestion in particular stands out. Looks likely to go to GWS through a Zone Selection.
    Why:


    2012: (Ladder order predicted 2012)
    #1 GWS- Lachlan Whitfield (VIC - Mid)
    Height: 185cm, Weight: 75kg, DOB: 18/07/1994
    Recruited from: Dandenong Stingrays
    Style: Ben Cousins
    Player comparison:
    Range: 1-3
    Profile: The thing that makes Whitfield stand out is his work rate, he just never stops running and absolutely works his man into the ground consistently. Whitfield has absolutely crazy endurance and as a 17 year old makes mince meat of the beep test, can score 16 which for an AFL prospect is in the very top percentile. The other thing is his skill level by foot. Perfect left footer. Just that class above and always looks composed with ball in hand and is that class above. Has a real natural evasiveness and can pretty easily avoid tackles. Strong mark overhead on the lead and around the field. Speed good but not elite. Could add some more kicking penetration, probably only has a 40-45m kick on him at this stage but if he can add 10-15m onto that kick it will only increase his hurt factor. Also will need to eventually develop that inside game to go with his outside game which at this stage means he will likely jump into an outside role or perhaps off a back flank. Hopefully we’ll see some signs of a developing inside game season. Physically Whitfield has developed well over the past few years which suggest he still has allot of physical development ahead.
    Why:

    #2 Gold Coast- Jake Stringer (VIC - Util)
    Height: 191cm, Weight: 86kg, DOB: 25/4/1994
    Recruited from: Bendigo Pioneers
    Style: Brendan Goddard
    Player comparison:
    Range: 1-10
    Profile: Stringer is probably the best talent in the draft and had it not been for a broken leg this season I would probably have him at no.1. Comes from a basketball background. Hard worker. Has explosiveness, a great leap and is an incredibly high level athlete. Has great versatility and can play either end comfortably as well as through the midfield. Just one of those players who you can put anywhere and he will change the game and take over. Wins the hard ball consistently and is a very good inside player. Great ball user. Endurance good. Very strong mark overhead. Can hit the scoreboard hard when shifted forward. Star potential. Just needs to work hard to get his leg right and the rest will take care of himself if he continues to work hard and develop his game this year. Has great leadership potential and looks likely to be a guy who leads from the front at AFL level also.
    Why:

    #3 Port Adelaide- Nick Vlastuin (VIC - Mid)
    Height: 186cm, Weight: 83kg, DOB: 19/04/1994
    Recruited from: Northern Knights
    Style: Nathan Buckley (less athletic)
    Player comparison:
    Range: 2-15
    Profile: Midfielder who consistently wins the contested footy and just consistently goes harder than the next player. Big time clearance player. Skill level is exceptional, uses it well by both hand and foot and rarely makes mistakes. Particularly stands out by foot and have nice penetration. Has also been noted for leadership and really leads by example out on the field so there is allot to like. Consistently plays to a high level. Athletically not as good as other likely high end midfield choices but is still a hard runner who will work all day and demonstrates great endurance and work rate. Tackles hard and willingly works both ways. Looks like a very low risk, solid pro who is worthy of a high draft position.
    Why:

    #4 Melbourne - Jack Viney (VIC - Mid) F/S
    Height: 178cm, Weight: 77kg, DOB: 13/04/1994
    Recruited from: Oakleigh Chargers
    Style: Joel Selwood
    Player comparison: Toby Greene
    Range: 1st round
    Profile: Really competitive and hard inside midfield. Could have joined an AFL club as a 17 year old and been a regular. Not a big fella, but purely and simply he is the hardest player I’ve seen coming through the system and his attack on the ball, attack on the man and aggression on the field is without equal and the big reason why he is such a dominant player already. Wins all the hard, contested ball and as a 17 year old was doing better than most of the 18 year olds who got drafted early, so Melbourne will get very lucky to have young Jack who I’m sure will very quickly become a Mark Neeld favourite. Tackling is excellent. Is a real leader out on the field and is someone who really leads by his actions and hardness at the footy. Really high character guy and hard worker who will put time into his game until he becomes elite. Jack has very clean hands and uses it well by hand consistently. Big time accumulator. Left foot kick, can use his right. Kicking is generally very good and will continue to get better. Speed is good, but not elite. The big strength athletically is his endurance which without seeing any of his testing I suspect would be very, very good because he has such a high work rate.
    Why:

    #5 Western Bull Dogs - Jimmy Toumpas (SA – Mid)
    Height: 183cm, Weight: 74kg, DOB: 02/01/1994
    Recruited from: Woodville West Torrens
    Style:
    Player comparison: Chad Wingard
    Range: 2-15
    Profile: Really damaging player with some versatility. Reminds me allot of Chad Wingard. Skill level excellent by both hand and foot, has that combination of hurt factor and clean ball use that will make him a big time weapon. Consistently good decision maker. Good athlete and has that combination of speed and agility. Also has shown very early on that he can lift for the big games which is I strongly believe is something that he will take with him to AFL level. Can play as a midfielder or a forward at that stage but I like Toumpas most as an outside mid/forward at this stage because he still physically needs to develop and continue to work on that inside game.
    Why:

    #6 North Melbourne - Josh Simpson (SA – Mid/Fwd)
    Height: 181cm, Weight: 67kg, DOB: 09/02/1994
    Recruited from: North Adelaide
    Style:
    Player comparison:
    Range: 2-15
    Profile: Simpson is a highly skilled football player and is really committed to his football which is a great sign. Very quick and uses that quickness well. Is not just a flashy outside player but also has the production to go with it which makes him such a highly rated prospect. Made the move from WA to SA in 2011 to further his football education and to get a spot in the U18 championships which turned out to be a great move consider he didn’t make the U16 champs for WA in 2010. Really stood out in the U18 champs in 2011 for SA and showed that he can really produce which is a great sign. Has a really natural skill set and is a very good user of the ball with that ability to use both sides and has that great balance to him. For someone still so lean his attack on the football is very encouraging. Really like what I’ve seen of Simpson so far and hopefully he continues his strong improvement again in 2012.
    Why:

    #7 Brisbane- Mason Shaw (WA – KPF/Ruck)
    Height: 198cm, Weight: 92kg, DOB: 15/01/1994
    Recruited from: South Fremantle
    Style: Brad Ottens/Kurt Tippett
    Player comparison: Jonathan Patton
    Range: 2-20
    Profile: Really strong marking key forward. Had a sensation 2011 season scoring 66 goals which is a great return for the young key forward. Has good accuracy from both general play and set shot attempts. Also Shaw is a serious big game player kicking 7 goals in the grand final which is a big return and shows potential to continue being a big game player into the future. Has played in the ruck but I most like Shaw as a key forward and see that as the position where he can impose himself on matches most as a big marking target.
    Why:

    #8 Richmond – Brodie Grundy (SA - Ruck)
    Height: 200cm, Weight: 92kg, DOB: 15/04/1994
    Recruited from: Sturt
    Style:
    Player comparison: Daniel Gorringe
    Range: 2-15
    Profile: Ruckman who has shown serious improvement over the past two years. Comes from a basketball background. Very athletic and has a huge leap, is already a high level tap ruckman. Consistently hits it to advantage and knows who’s at his feet. Strong mark overhead and can mark at the highest point but can miss some easier marks at times as well so in that regard needs to develop more consistency in his marking game. Has a huge work rate. Skill level not bad for a ruckman. Can close out games strongly when the game is on the line and has that extra gear which I view as a real selling point and an aspect of his game that he can continue at the next level. I’d like to see Grundy increase his contribution around the ground and get his hands on the ball more. Generally a good ball user for someone of his size so if he can become more of a ball winner, add that to his already very good ruckwork and we might have something. Another thing I like with Grundy is that he is really willing to improve and will work hard with coaches to make his game better so I think Grundy will fulfil his upside and continue on his swift improvement.
    Why:

    #9 St Kilda - Liam McBean (VIC – Ruck/KPF)
    Height: 201cm, Weight: 85kg, DOB: 25/08/1994
    Recruited from: Calder Cannons
    Style: Josh Fraser
    Player comparison:
    Range: 5-30
    Profile: Ruckman who can also play forward to a high level. McBean is a really agile type who is excellent at ground level for a player of his size and has an excellent skill set and decision making ability for a tall. As a forward typically leads to the right spots and is a strong marking target. Additionally he is an above average set shot goal kicker which is another nice positive. Physically McBean has a fair way to go and I don’t ever expect him to develop into a super strong ruckman or key forward but I can certainly see him developing into a very capable AFL level footballer who could play either position to a high level.
    Why:

    #10 Essendon – Joe Daniher (VIC – KPF/Ruck) F/S
    Height: 199cm, Weight: 90kg, DOB: 04/03/1994
    Recruited from: Calder Cannons
    Style: Paul Salmon
    Player comparison:
    Range: 1st round
    Profile: Tall who can play either up forward or in the ruck. Has a very strong contested mark which is the real standout feature of his game, his marking isn’t just good because he is taller than everyone else but because he has strong marking form and takes it at the highest point, one grab and judges it well in the air. Kicking technique very good for a tall and can hit the scoreboard for bags of goals already which is promising. As well as playing up forward Daniher can also play in the ruck. But with his strong contested marking game I most like Daniher as a key forward at this stage, even if he does still have more growth left in him, but considering Essendon didn’t take a ruckman in the 2011 draft, perhaps the plan is for Daniher to develop into the next generation ruckman – which is equally plausible. As a ruckman Daniher has demonstrated good tap work and seems to really compete well, in 2012 expect big ruck minutes which at his height is pretty much unavoidable regardless of how good they happen to be as key forwards. Daniher missed the 2011 season with a knee injury but with the way he dominated the 2010 season I see Daniher as one of the very best in of this year’s group and assuming he produces as expected a 1st round selection.
    Why:

    #11 Collingwood- Kristian Jaksch (VIC – KPD/KPF)
    Height: 195cm, Weight: 86kg, DOB: 07/10/1994
    Recruited from: Oakleigh Chargers
    Style: Ben Reid
    Player comparison:
    Range: 10-30
    Profile: Really promising key position player who can capably play forward or back to a high level. Really love the way his game has developed over the past few years and has continued to develop strongly from year to year. Very strong overhead mark and is a real contested marking threat around the ground. Has very strong hands. Reads the play to a very high level and reads the ball in the air well. Skill level above average for a key position player and is particularly impressive by foot. Athletically Jaksch is above average, has a solid leap but also moves really well with good pace and agility but he should develop into more of a power key defender or key forward with his strong marking game. Has the body type where he should capably continue to grow out strongly. I like Jaksch most as a key defender in a similar rebounding type role to what Ben Reid plays for Collingwood, has an incredibly similar game but he could capably develop into a key forward and in years gone past has shown that he can be a real marking presence and goal kicking force up forward.
    Why:

    #12 Adelaide - Ben Kennedy (SA –Fwd/ Mid)
    Height: 174cm, Weight: 73kg, DOB: 03/03/1994
    Recruited from: Glenelg
    Style: Brent Harvey
    Player comparison:
    Range: 5-25
    Profile: Very small midfielder, but he can play. Speed is elite and in the very top percentile. Has that pace but also uses it effectively and willingly takes on opposition players to effect. More than has the performances on the board and showed allot during the 2011 U18 championships. Kennedy is a big accumulator and can hit the scoreboard for a number of goals. Ball use generally very good. Has a neat left foot kick with nice penetration. Can win his own ball. Tackling very good but with his pace has the potential to be an elite tackler. Very ready to play and has shown this in the SANFL already which is a big positive. I’d like to see Kennedy play more of a regular midfield role this year to see what sort of numbers he can accumulate, I certainly think he is more than capable of making the transition. Kennedy has a big chance of doing what Dion Prestia and Devon Smith have done in recent years in getting drafted early despite lack of height and with Adelaide strongly considering Kennedy with that mini draft selection in 2011 last year expect him to be one a number of clubs will be looking at very closely with an early selection.
    Why:

    #13 Sydney - Sam Mayes (SA - Fwd)
    Height: 187cm, Weight: 74kg, DOB: 20/05/1994
    Recruited from: North Adelaide
    Style:
    Player comparison:
    Range: 3-25
    Profile: Leadup forward who really has the performances on the board. Mayes starred in the 2010 u18 championships and looks set for another dominant year. Has great pace and can really burst away from the trailing defender with ease. Marking ability very strong for a player of his size and his kicking also is very good. Has to this stage played mainly up forward and on occasions pushed up onto a wing but the expectation is that he plays more of a midfield role this year. I do have some questions on his game. If he continues to play as a medium forward (where to this stage he has probably played his best football) should he go this high? – because you can pretty easily get medium forwards later on in the draft and unlike with midfielders or key position players you don’t necessarily have to spend a high pick to get someone who can play this role. Mayes doesn’t look like he will be tall enough to play as a key forward, so his future hopefully for his draft stocks he can develop through the midfield. He seems to have the skill set to adapt to a midfield role so it’s just a case of wait and see what he can do this year, but even though he at this stage is one of the standout young prospects unless he can adapt to a role in the midfield I don’t see him going as high as some predict, though this is an incredibly speculative call and with a year of footy to be played before draft time I could be very wrong.
    Why:

    #14 Geelong – Tanner Smith (VIC – KPD)
    Height: 194cm, Weight: 79kg, DOB: 09/03/1994
    Recruited from: North Ballarat
    Style: Eric McKenzie
    Player comparison:
    Range: 5-25
    Profile: Best pure key defender of this year’s crop. Very good at limiting the impact of his direct opponent. Gets great spoil numbers. He has some variety in his game and has the ability to play off his man, hold his own one on one or zone off depending on what he needs to do for his team. Most of his touches come from intercept possessions or marks. Athletically Smith is above average and has the speed and endurance to go with most players. Physically still has some way to go so give him some time. Skills still developing and probably won’t ever be great, but from a shutdown perspective is as good as anyone and that is his big selling point in this draft and what he needs to take with his to the next level.
    Why:

    #15 Fremantle - Aaron Luccon (SA – KPF/Ruck)
    Height: 195cm, Weight: 86kg, DOB: 21/04/1994
    Recruited from: Norwood
    Style:
    Player comparison:
    Range: 10-40
    Profile: Over the past few years Luccon has developed rapidly coming from a long way back and developing into a serious AFL prospect. He has play mostly through the ruck and also spent some time playing as a key forward to this stage. Has a strong mark on him and up forward is capable of taking big grabs. Kicking skills solid and has a really nice skill set for a big. Really look forward to seeing whether Luccon can take another step up this year.
    Why:

    #16 West Coast - Matthew Haynes (VIC - Util)
    Height: 190cm, Weight: 76kg, DOB: 19/03/1994
    Recruited from: Northern Knights
    Style:
    Player comparison: Isaac Smith
    Range: 3-25
    Profile: Haynes is a really versatile line breaker. Really broke onto the scene in 2011 and for someone of his height, his pace is absolutely incredible! Just bursts and goes past everyone with ease and is incredibly difficult to run down. Also would be very interested to see his meters gained statistics because if you let him he would sprint the length of the field. I think he could become a very good back flanker at the next level but he does have the versatility to play on a wing or forward. The other strength with Haynes is his marking ability which is well above average. If he can add a few more weapons to his game he could be very good player at the next level. One area I’d like to see Haynes work on his decision making and kicking skills because he doesn’t always seem to go with the right option as often as he perhaps could and if he can refine this area to some extent it would only make him into more of a weapon. The other area that needs work is his contested ball winning ability which is very much in the formative stages, and while he will probably always be an outside player he still needs to develop this side to his game. Also work on his tackling game would go a long way to helping his draft stocks, more than has the pace on him so needs to really develop that side to his game to go with his offensive drive. But if he continues to improve his game as rapidly as he did in 2011, he could be a very high draft selection! My concern with Haynes is that while he has his weapons I’d like to see him develop a more complete game and become more of a substance player and produce greater numbers, because to me at this stage he projects as more of a role player who has a big weapon in his pace, but also to some degree a limited game which mostly relies on his offensive run and carry.
    Why:

    #17 Hawthorn- Lachlan Plowman (VIC - Def)
    Height: 190cm, Weight: 81kg, DOB: 11/09/1994
    Recruited from: Calder Cannons
    Style:
    Player comparison:
    Range: 10-35
    Profile: Strong defender who stands out with his marking and ability to read the play down back. Is a really offensive minded key defender who provides great drive from the back half. Is unusually composed for a key defender and has a great skill level for a player of his type. Has really nice mobility and if he has the ball in general play he can avoid tackles as you’d see from smaller players which is an interesting aspect of Plowman’s game. Defensively Plowman can continue to get better but I really love his style of play with his really natural rebounding game down back which I hope he continues to develop because it is a really great strength to his game. My main concerns with Plowman are from a physical standpoint. Is on the short side for a key position player and I’m unsure how much growth he has left. Also physically while he isn’t nearly finished filling out I think he is someone who will physically develop earlier, but the downside of this is he has limited upside from a physical standpoint and won’t have that rapid development that some of the late bloomers get.
    Why:

    #18 Carlton- Troy Menzel (SA – Mid)
    Height: 183cm, Weight: 78kg, DOB: 22/09/1994
    Recruited from: Central District
    Style:
    Player comparison:
    Range: 10-35
    Profile: Troy is the younger brother of Cat Daniel Menzel. There are differences in their play with Troy more of a midfielder but what is the same is that both can play and play to a very high level. Troy is a highly productive midfielder who stand out because of his awareness and decision making under pressure, is one of those players who is always composed. Skill level very good and by both hand and foot stands out. Athletically Troy is excellent with his combination of speed, agility and endurance which is very exciting. Even with this athleticism Troy doesn’t rely on it and is a really natural footballer rather than a pure athlete and because of this I see a strong future ahead of him at AFL level. One major concern I have with Troy that could see him slide is that he has had LARS. With Malceski and Rodan getting reinjured after LARS before Menzel while a high level talent in this draft comes with some serious injury risk.
    Why:

    #19 GWS- Jonothon O’Rourke (VIC - Mid)
    Height: 183cm, Weight: 74kg, DOB: 21/04/1994
    Recruited from: Calder Cannons
    Style:
    Player comparison: Reece Conca
    Range: 5-25
    Profile: Missed most of the 2011 season with a hamstring injury so it will be interesting to see what he can produce in 2012. Very good all rounder who stands out because he uses the ball so well by both hand and foot consistently at a high efficiency. Is also a very good athlete and has good pace and a nice leap on him. Probably more of an outside player but is very capable as an insider, probably more of a receiver than a pure ball winner but is very good in congestion and has that great decision making ability which particularly shows in these situations which shows great potential for him later on as an inside player when he develops physically and becomes a more consistent inside ball winner.
    Why:

    #20 Gold Coast- Rory Atkins (VIC - Mid)
    Height: 183cm, Weight: 75kg, DOB: 12/07/1994
    Recruited from: Calder Cannons
    Style:
    Player comparison: Patrick Dangerfield
    Range: 10-35
    Profile: Has a really nice attack on the ball. What makes him stand out is his decision making under pressure and his ball use in congestion, makes decisions quickly and makes the right ones consistently. Skill level high, good by foot and even better by hand. Can also go forward and have an impact. What Rory needs to do now is really improve his numbers this year, right now while he ticks many of the boxes he doesn’t get the numbers he probably should be accumulating and in this regard seems a little like Patrick Dangerfield where he just consistently follows and attacks the ball but might not get into the right position to receive the ball all the time which might be why his numbers aren’t as high as they could be. Also endurance doesn’t seem to be at the level it needs to be yet, but that can always be built up at AFL level and with the attributes he has there is the potential for him to develop into a very high level inside player with some time.
    Why:

    #21 Port Adelaide- Nathan Wright (VIC – Mid)
    Height: 183cm, Weight: 81kg, DOB: 16/02/1994
    Recruited from: Dandenong Stingrays
    Style:
    Player comparison:
    Range: 5-35
    Profile:
    Why:

    #22 Melbourne- Corey Chalmers (WA - Mid)
    Height: 179cm, Weight: 70kg, DOB: 24/11/1994
    Recruited from: West Perth Football Club
    Style:
    Player comparison: Luke Parker
    Range: 15-rookie
    Profile: Very high production midfielder. Has been good for a number of years and continues to produce great numbers. Isn’t bigger than everyone but wins his ball by working harder than the next guy. Hard trainer and plays a good team game. Endurance and work rate excellent. Skills good. Looks like a real solid pick who might go under the radar some. Leadership skills are there and leads by his actions out on the field.
    Why:

    #23 Western Bull Dogs- Adam Carter (WA –Def/ Mid)
    Height: 179cm, Weight: 75kg, DOB: 17/04/1994
    Recruited from: South Fremantle Football Club
    Style:
    Player comparison: Brandon Ellis
    Range: 10-40
    Profile: Carter while on the short side is not at all short on talent. Has the ability to play either through the midfield or down back. As a defender Carter can shut down the smaller forwards and provide strong rebound using his long kick with accuracy coming out of the back half. Carter through the midfield has solid ball winning ability and if he wins his own ball seems difficult to tackle and has very good core strength allowing him to stand up in those tackles. Athletically Carter is slightly above average but it isn’t a feature of his game as it might be with others.
    Why:

    #24 North Melbourne- Dayle Garlett (WA – Mid/Fwd)
    Height: 181cm, Weight: 68kg, DOB: 09/01/1994
    Recruited from: Swan Districts Football Club
    Style:
    Player comparison: Harley Bennell
    Range: 5-rookie
    Profile: Quality outside midfielder who can sneak forward and have an impact. Showed a fair bit of talent through the 2011 U18 champs. Has great pace and uses it well. Decision making excellent and even when pressured still makes the right decision most of the time. Left footer with some nice penetration on his kick. Can use his right boot and use it well. Skill level generally pretty good. Can really hit the scoreboard and be very damaging with the influence he can have on some games. Also when the ball hits the ground I like how he immediately has that quickness of mind and body to get to the ball quicker than everyone and quickly get the ball onto hit boot for a goal. I like it that despite his lack of size that he is still capable of winning his own ball. Dayle still needs to build more strength through the hips so that he can stand up in tackles, but there is a fair bit to like about his game. Also defensively can continue to get better to compliment his incredible offensive game. I’m hearing some real discipline issues which may see Garlett slide down the draft more than his talent deserves. Will be really interesting to see how clubs evaluate Garlett as he is an unbelievable talent, but the risk is there.
    Why:

    #25 Brisbane- Jason Pongracic (VIC - Mid)
    Height: 181cm, Weight: 82kg, DOB: 21/04/1994
    Recruited from: Dandenong Stingrays
    Style:
    Player comparison:
    Range: 15-40
    Profile:
    Why:

    #26 Richmond- Oliver Wines (VIC - Mid)
    Height: 184cm, Weight: 84kg, DOB: 07/10/1994
    Recruited from: Bendigo Pioneers
    Style:
    Player comparison:
    Range: 10-35
    Profile: Wines is a really good all rounder and a real footballer. Good ball user by both hand and foot and decision making ability also very good and chooses the right option with regularity. Excellent at reading the play and gets into the right positions. Wines is a really big ball winner and is one of the more ready to play prospects. He isn’t a standout athlete but his endurance is excellent and his work rate is a real selling point to his game. Wines is already very physically developed so possibly doesn’t have the upside of some of the other prospects but with Wines you have to like the way he goes about his football and with his work ethic I see him as a sure thing who can become a very productive player at the next level.
    Why:

    #27 St Kilda – Laine Wilkins (WA – Mid/Fwd)
    Height: 189cm, Weight: 73kg, DOB: 30/03/1994
    Recruited from:
    Style:
    Player comparison:
    Range: 10-rookie
    Profile: Outside running type player who can do some big damage. Wilkins is a running wingman with sensational pace and freak athleticism with a great leap on him. Has a very damaging skill set and can really hurt you when he gets his hands on the ball. When he rests forward he can often impact the scoreboard and do some damage. Really exciting player and one of those players who can really turn a game with some of the things he can do.
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    #28 Essendon- Christopher Yarran (WA – Fwd/Mid)
    Height: 183cm, Weight: 80kg, DOB: 27/04/1994
    Recruited from: Perth Football Club
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    Range: 10-rookie
    Profile: Yarran at this stage has mostly as a forward but can also push up into the midfield. As a forward is a big time goal scorer. Has great goal sense. Speed and agility good but nothing like Carlton’s Yarran. Endurance needs allot of work if he wants to push up the ground or develop consistency to his game. Is very natural as a crumbing forward. Marking ability good for a player of his size. Can continue to work defensively to get better but with some work this can improve. Still a very highly talented player who will give you something special regardless of where you play him. I’d really like to see Yarran used of a back flank, with his athletic gifts I could see him developing more consistency and having a more regular influence on games in that role using his pace down back.
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    #29 Collingwood - James Stewart (VIC – KPF/KPD) F/S
    Height: 195cm, Weight: 79kg, DOB: 04/03/1994
    Recruited from: Sandringham Dragons
    Style: Ben Reid/Jack Watts
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    Range: 1st/2nd round
    Profile: Potential Collingwood Father Son selection. Still physically has a fair bit of development to come but the talent is there. Has played most of his footy either as a key forward or on a wing to this stage but also looks very capable as a key defender. Skill level excellent for a key position player and as good as a midfielder in this regard, by foot particularly good – duel sided, can find targets with regularity over a variety of distances. When he has ball is hand shows great poise and can easily spin out of tackles, never really looking phased when pressured. Athleticism impressive and for someone at his height and is incredibly mobile for a tall. Willing tackler and will give those 2nd and 3rd efforts. What impresses me is his ability to read the play and read the ball in the air, it’s a real feature of his game. Strong mark overhead but I don’t see him ever becoming a dominant marking presence in the way a Travis Cloke is. At this stage plays as a forward in a similar manor to Melbourne’s Jack Watts as that high forward flanker who mostly leads up the ground, but as a key defender he looks really solid and plays a similar game to Ben Reid with his ability to read the play.
    Why:

    #30 Adelaide- Matthew McDonough (SA - Fwd)
    Height: 180cm, Weight: 82kg, DOB: 26/01/1994
    Recruited from: Woodville West Torrens
    Style: Stewart Dew
    Player comparison: Jason Porplyzia
    Range: 20-rookie
    Profile: Forward who is physically very strongly built and ready to produce. Has already shown that he can kick big goal hauls. Really like his kicking, very duel sided and has that great goal sense and some nice penetration. Also like his marking ability, for his size very strong contested mark and with his marking game plays taller than his height. Where McDonough falls short is his lack of athleticism. Speed not great and endurance a long way off where it needs to get to. As a forward also needs to work on his tackling game. This year if McDonough can work on his endurance I’d be really interested to find out his capabilities through the midfield, has the ball winning ability to play there for periods so it would be interesting to see what type of influence he can have with his stronger body.
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    #31 Sydney- Nic Amato (SA – Mid)
    Height: 177cm, Weight: 72kg, DOB: 15/10/1994
    Recruited from: North Adelaide
    Style: Leigh Montagna
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    Range: 15-45
    Profile: If on the short side for a midfielder but is a guy who is already producing to a high level. During the 2011 U18 champs really showed some great signs racking up big numbers while doing a great job at limiting his direct opponents. Amato is an outside midfield with excellent endurance and work rate. Has some ball winning ability and isn’t that purely outside guy. At lower levels Amato has also played to a high level getting some big disposal numbers.
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    #32 Geelong – Emmanuel Irra (SA – Mid/Util)
    Height: 179cm, Weight: 73kg, DOB: 25/03/1994
    Recruited from: South Adelaide
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    Range: 20-rookie
    Profile: Irra has incredible speed and evasiveness. Kicking skills excellent for someone who hasn’t played all his life – very duel sided, penetration good and can make high difficulty kicks look easy at times. Decision making very good. Still has allot of work to do and is still a reasonably raw product, but if he continues to show improvement and increase his production I see no reason why Irra can’t get drafted. Also needs to develop some more consistency in his game – one game he can be one of the better players the next can go missing, so really needs to build his endurance and get some sort of routine together that works for him to play to a more consistently high level.
    Why:

    #33 Fremantle – Brodie Murdoch (SA – Fwd/KPF)
    Height: 191cm, Weight: 79kg, DOB: 21/01/1994
    Recruited from: Glenelg
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    Range: 15-rookie
    Profile: Murdoch is a slightly undersized key forward who might need to settle into more of a 3rd tall leading role which he is probably more suited to at the next level. At U18 level gets impressive mark totals, but at senior level I suspect this might dry up because with zones it is allot harder for these leading type forwards to have a great impact. For a tall I really like Murdoch’s kicking and has a really nice left foot on him. Physically Murdoch still has a fair way to go and I expect he has a fair bit of development left which is positive, so if Murdoch can grow those couple more cm he could be a legit draft prospect.
    Why:

    #34 West Coast – Shannon Taylor (WA –Fwd/ Mid)
    Height: 177cm, Weight: 72kg, DOB: 05/02/1994
    Recruited from: Claremont Football Club
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    Player comparison:
    Range: 15-rookie
    Profile: Taylor is an absolute speedster with unbelievable pace and agility. At the 2011 draft combine managed the best times for the 10m, 20m sprints, repeat sprints and agility. But at this stage Taylor outside of his athleticism still has an incomplete game. Tackling game is solid but has the potential to be elite in this area of his game. Is a very clean ball user and has hurt factor. Physically still has a long way to go. The big thing Taylor needs to work on is his endurance which has a long way to go if he wants midfield minutes at any stage. At this stage I see Taylor as more of a small forward but he does have the potential to play higher up the ground or possibly on a wing when he develops his endurance.
    Why:

    #35 Hawthorn - Todd McKay (SA - Mid)
    Height: 177cm, Weight: 74kg, DOB: 25/01/1994
    Recruited from: South Adelaide
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    Player comparison:
    Range: 15-rookie
    Profile: McKay is small but strong inside ball winner. Has a very strong attack on the footy and is a serious inside ball winner. As a smaller more ready to go midfielder it will be interesting to watch where McKay goes. Has a big potential range but even though on the short side for the modern day midfielder there is a fair bit to like about his game which suggests he is a legit draft prospect. McKay has some big weapons at his disposal in his long kick and pace so there is more to him than just his inside ball winning ability which is up there with the best in this year’s crop. The thing I’d like to see McKay improve this year is his production. He has the attributes to get drafted so if he can further increase his production this year he is every chance to be drafted earlier rather than later.
    Why:

    #36 Carlton - Anthony Bonaddio (VIC – Mid/Fwd)
    Height: 176cm, Weight: 78kg, DOB: 06/01/1994
    Recruited from: Northern Knights
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    Player comparison:
    Range: 15-rookie
    Profile: Really like what Bonaddio can do. High production midfielder who has been good for some time. Big time ball winner through the midfield. Can win his own ball while also getting some outside ball. Has great pace and if given time and space can hurt you. Skill level exceptionally high and has big hurt factor by foot with the penetration he has on his kick. When he sneaks forward is very much a goal scoring threat.
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    thanks for your early thoughts Knightmare - always interesting to compare players this far out, and the reevaluate later....
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    Thanks for putting this up mate. Me being a "youtube expert" had no idea who the 2011 1st round candidates were until August last year.

    Its great to find out the top echalon of players 11 months before the Draft. :thumbsu:

    If Stringer is so highly rated, why didn't he get picked up in the mini draft with O'Meara and Crouch?
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    Should be an interesting year. No doubt things will change significantly as the season progresses. Would be pleased if I get 30 hits from my first 50 at this stage. Things just change so quickly.

    The story with Stringer is that he snapped his leg early 2011 in a really sickening incident - and had to sit out the season injured. So without that exposed form and having sat out the season injured, Adelaide decided Brad Crouch was a safer selection.

    Had Stringer not been injured and played the season he no doubt would be spoken about in the same sentence as Whitfield and O'Meara.
    All very different players with different talents. But all are potential franchise player talents if they want to be and injuries are kind.

    With Stringer until we see him return from injury and see what he can do, we don't really know allot about where he will stand in this years draft. On talent he in my mind anyway after Whitfield and O'Meara, Stringer stands above all others, but that doesn't necessarily mean he will get drafted top 5 or even top 10. This year is a new season and anything can happen, he just has to bounce back, continue his development and have a strong season.
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    You rated Craig Moller at 17. Could you tell me know about him?
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    North Melbourne to finish 15th?
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    Wouldn't suprise me. Great early write up.
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    sam Mayes will climb the boards much like Dom Tyson did...bank it! ;)
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    Yarran won't be going high at this stage.
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    Hey Knighta,

    Good effort.

    I thought i had a reasonable handle on this years talent, but you have at least a dozen names that i just dont know... How do you do it?

    I also agree with Balony Pony... we think you have greatly under valued Sam Mayes. In my opion he is top 5 material.

    Great list and looking forward to more commentry.

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    I think you are right EH... Yarrans progress stalled last year.

    Can you give me some update on Brad Lim?
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    I thought he was the most effective ruckman in last years champs.

    He has kept growing and has the mobility to quickly become a top AFL ruckman. Whoever picks him up wont have to wait a couple of seasons for him to have an impact.
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    A pretty safe prediction, considering at this ridiculously early stage he is generally considered a pick in the 5-10 range.

    No doubt this will change a lot, because this is basically just a list of the all the underage players from this years U18 Championships. Despite being exposed early to U18s, some of these players wont go as high due to question marks over pure midfield ability (as opposed to being half forwards) or not growing into true KPP size.

    Some interesting names though.
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    yeah true...I just was surprise Knight only had him listed at 38
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    Very tall ruckman - think he measures in at 204/205cm, so long term he could be a big time asset. Still physically has a long way to go - wouldn't be more than 80kg.

    The only bits i've seen of him are from last years u18 champs.

    Moller is a super high level athlete. For a ruckman his size never seen anyone run quite like that. Tap work not bad and will only get better, certainly didn't get monstered during the U18 champs and more than held his own when given opportunities in the ruck. Can also go forward and have some impact.
    As I understand it grew up playing a fair bit of basketball. Also from all reports has a great attitude and work ethic.
    So I think Fremantle have something to look forward to.

    I see a best case scenario as something similar to Todd Goldstein. Similarly is another athletic type tap ruckman.

    The big thing in his game that makes him stand out at this stage is his pure tapping ability. Just gets it down to his midfielders advantage with such regularity and is the real selling point of his game.

    Speculative call. But I don't like my January ratings to match the season prior too much as every new season has new surprises.
    North could finish as high as 6th. Very open field from 5th-15th this year and I'm still pretty open minded to what could happen in that middle pack this year. North Melbourne have a great young core group, but I'm unsure if the development will be as quick as expected relative to other similarly positioned young teams - speculative.

    Mayes is one everyone seems to have top 10. 1st round. Certainly on current performance very deserving of that high draft position.

    I have to this stage mainly only seen his games as a leadup forward (where he has been exceptional), but my preference with these types is to take them later in the draft.
    I'd like to see what he can produce through the midfield before I declare him a 1st round prospect - this isn't to say he hasn't produced through the midfield yet, just I haven't necessarily seen enough of his games where he was playing through the midfield to correctly evaluate what he can do through there which is why I have him slightly lower than others at this early stage.
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    Could be right. Mainly seen his games from the U18 champs last year where he did impress.

    But it's all about what they produce this year. Yarran is nowhere close to a 1st round lock.

    Just followed the 17 year olds closely last year - not something I did prior to last year. The owner of draftcentral was keen for me to put something together for the 2012 draft, so that got me looking ahead further than usual.

    You could be right about Mayes. I'm still very open minded to his draft position, but because I still mainly associate him in my mind as a leadup forward and haven't seen as many of his games through the midfield I don't yet have him as a lock for an early selection. But that could certainly change in a hurry.

    Just watching him makes me think that he could do a Goldstein. Get games early and just continue to develop rapidly. I see that same rapid growth pattern. My big thing with ruckmen is looking for that rapid growth in ability, it doesn't matter whether you dominate as an 18 year old or have for a number of year in my mind as a ruckman, it's that consistant and strong improvement that ingrigues me most in young rucks because you are looking for them to be great as 24-28 year olds rather than 18 year olds who can play already, but have little development left due to being early bloomers.

    By midseason my list will no doubt be entirely different - certain players will work hard over the preseason, others might grow out of nowhere and others might just stop growing.

    For me this is just a elastic starting point which is very much open for movement.

    Just consider this as an early watchlist.

    Over coming months I'll continue to expand the list when the appropriate talents pop up.
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    I still think you should swap the picks for Carlton and Hawthorn.
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    Have they got a trade worked out already?
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    I think Chris25 has the right idea. :D

    I really do like Carlton's list and frankly it really surprises me that I have only heard about ambitions to make the top 4 rather than to make a grand final or contest for a premiership. It certainly helps to make the top 4 before you aim for premiership, but I don't think Carlton are far off at all and I wouldn't be shocked to see Carlton skip that step completely.

    I see improvement to come from: Bryce Gibbs, Lachie Henderson, Chris Yarran, Robert Warnock and Kane Lucas this season. Then you have a healthy Matthew Kreuzer.

    Rohan Kerr is a smokie I've liked at VFL level for some time. Shaun Hampton showed allot in one of the VFL finals and could easily play if required. The depth is there so I think you have the pieces to do allot better than expected.

    I certainly have you in the same conversation as Collingwood and Hawthorn - with Geelong probably dropping out of that premiership conversation with Ottens now retired (which admittedly is dangerous after the way they responded after Ablett left, having been called too old. But this year I expect that age to show, with their young core group not quite up to the task of keeping this team in contention).
    - But this is only my take, which I'm sure will be vastly different to that of the next AFL fan.
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    Great work this early, thanks for taking the time and making the effort. ... :thumbsu:
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    if i'm not mistaken melbourne will not have to use their first selection on Viney, but they're next pick. pkus, Melbourne will have 3 first round picks in next years draft from the scully compensation
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    Only if they are activated before the start of the season.
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    Stewart has been doing his preseason with GC's Tom Lynch down at Sorrento/Blairgowrie. Saw one session at the Sorrento Oval where he was under the gudiance of McCrae, his kicking is unbelievable. He can kick with ease over 50 metres on both sides, as good as I've seen for a player of that size, he would easily be 196cm & competed well with Lynch.
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    Remember that Craig Stewart was a booming kick - could easily roost a ball 50 or 60 metres.
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