In response to Aussierules, I'm not going to quote all that but with St Kilda it all remains to be seen. You need to see things 4 years down the track with talls or 2 years down the track with everyone else to get a gauge on whether St Kilda have got it right. In my view St Kilda are heading in the right direction which given where you came from at this stage is all you can expect. Are St Kilda better drafters than Geelong/Adelaide/Collingwood? I wouldn't bet on it and these are the teams who more years than not seem to in my view anyway really be the clubs who get it more right than any other club. I consider it a bit like Richmond with their trading. Until it became obvious that they could trade effectively - Ivan Maric, Shaun Grigg, Bachar Houli they weren't. Now that they've proven they can trade with the best clubs in the league identifying talent others probably wouldn't recognise and they are now one of the very best. St Kilda have that same opportunity. With mature age drafting which St Kilda are putting more into than the next club, it's a has a higher percentage return than the other forms of recruiting and St Kilda seem to have identified this and because that young-middle age segment of the list is non-existant it is a clear, and good recruiting strategy by St Kilda to build a competitive team post Riewoldt/Hayes/Fisher. There has been nothing to suggest a team can make a premiership team out of state leaguers because it hasn't been done, but it doesn't necessarily mean that it won't happen. I one thing I'm not necessarily liking as much with St Kilda's recruiting and this is only my view is the overspending on mature talents (specifically Hickey from Gold Coast and Lee from the WAFL). Neither are proven and when spending that price you really need to be. State league recruiting while Geelong did exceeding well with Harry Taylor and Sydney did with Lewis Jetta early draft, it's still more effective when using late draft selections or rookie selections when the right talent has been identified. Sometimes there are times where it is right to use an early draft selection on a mature age type talent, but I don't believe Lee and Hickey while they can both make the grade are worth that level of currency spent and in a draft where there is such a significant different in the talent at 12/13 as opposed to around selections 25 I don't believe it was the right move. But this is only my opinion. I'm not more qualified to give a judgement than anyone else and I by no means expect to outperform an entire football club when it comes to recruiting, I'm not a full time recruiter and with the amount of staff and the time those staff spend identifying and analysing talent it would be foolish to suggest that I alone can. On Grundy I don't see him as a problem guy at all. He is a winner. In the post draft interview he was talking premierships. The guy is committed to his work and from what I understand scored and enter in the 90s so the guy is not only smart but also committed. Any ruckman who spends two years in the gym and can carry 100kg as well as he does and still retains his athleticism clearly has put in the time and that to me suggests he will continue to do the same at the next level. On Collingwood since you have bought it up. Collingwood have always had the worst ruck development program and the worst ability of all clubs league wide to identify ruckmen. With Grundy and now Ben Hudson being bought in as a ruck coach to work with Grundy and Witts I'm hopeful that changes things but as demonstrated by Collingwood spending a premium to add Cameron Wood, Jonathan Ceglar, then a large number of ruckmen in years preceeding it's something Collingwood have just never been able to do often taking players with frames too light to ever put on the required weight, or when they did it meant because their bodies weren't made for it led to either a complete loss in previous athleticism or injury. Grundy is Collingwood's first ruck prospect, with perhaps Witts another where it could work because they both have those larger frames more naturally and won't have the problems the majority of those previous ruck prospects Collingwood had before them. On the height of key defenders. Not happy with the 192cm Darren Glass' effort on Kurt Tippett where the big guy only had 4 disposals and no shots at goal? Tom Hawkins had his worst games of the year against Darren Glass and Ben Rutten who are both 192cm. Against Glass only the two disposals, one goal. Against Rutten 8 disposals, no goals. Being 10cm shorter doesn't matter if you can play. People don't go around calling Glass or Rutten too short. They make up for it because 1v1 they are so strong and can despite being shorter in many cases compete with any key forward they come up against because they don't get outbodied and with that the taller key forward has no advantage despite the height difference. I suspect you are right. I rated Clurey. It appears AFL didn't and early draft it is always about going best available. Before I was talking more if St Kilda didn't involve themselves in trade week with those monster Lee + Hickey trades then this might have been an alternative potential outcome that might have been better. It's certainly the way I would have approached it but it's something for hindsight where some years down the track it will become clear what the most correct course of action was. Kent is a strong little contested ball winner. Has an explosive kick on him. Will likely play a role off a forward flank and potentially later career rotate into the midfield some. Has a hard edge to him I think Neeld will really like. Jones could have the opportunity through the midfield to find a role as that taller mid and as that mature ager could find earlier opportunities depending on preseason form. Terlich is another mature ager so it's clear Melbourne want that more immediate boost. Has a nice kick on him and will play in the back half. Had a strong finals series in the SANFL and with so many quality defenders coming out of that Norwood program in recent years don't be surprised if Terlich is another really good one who can play right away and play some good footy.