Stats & History Lesser Known Leagues in Sweet and club comings and goings

[Mobbs]

Mobbenfuhrer can you help with the table? What am i doing wrong?

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threa...lub-comings-and-goings.1042360/#post-31078495

I don't think <table> tags or any <> tags are usable here. Those are html tags.

Put it in a text file (eg notepad) and manually format with spaces or tabs.

Add code tags (I will use { instead of [ so it will show) as follows :
{code=rich}
Team some stat some other stat
{/code}

Remember to swap { for [ and } for ]

===============================================================
            S17 Club            |       Wins
===============================================================
Team Name  | Nickname | Founded | Nth/Sth | Aotearoa | Merged
===============================================================
Auckland   | Pirates  |  AC08   |   1     |    1     |   0 
Hawkes Bay | Power    |  AC07   |   2     |    0     |   0
Manukau    | Hunters  |  AC01   |   1     |    1     |   0
Northern   | Tribe    |  AC12   |   1     |    1     |   0
OPB        | Saints   |  AC09   |   0     |    0     |   1
Southland  | Maroons  |  AC01   |   6     |    5     |   NA
Tasman     | Bysiders |  AC13   |   0     |    0     |   NA
Waikato    | Mere     |  AC01   |   4     |    4     |   NA
Wellington | Cougars  |  AC10   |   0     |    )     |   2
Western    | Vengance |  AC03   |   3     |    2     |   NA
===============================================================

 

[Mobbs]

Quote the above to see the tags I added.

 

[akkaps]

Mobbenfuhrer is there a final decision on a reserves league for season 18? I have some time, and would like to know if I should start.

fumbler

 

[Eth]

Mobbenfuhrer is there a final decision on a reserves league for season 18? I have some time, and would like to know if I should start.

fumbler

There won't be any reserves comp.

 

[akkaps]

That's why I was asking Mobbs.

 

[boncer34]

That's why I was asking Mobbs.

Hi.

Admin of the comp here.

I have no issues with fake run stories like Mobbs and Fumbler.

But there will be no reserves comp.

 

[Mobbs]

You don't need me, you can do whatever you like, but I wouldn't mind being keep in the loop. I might suggest things.

But remember that it either needs to stand completely alone from the Sweet FA, or be subject to being bowled over by the Sweet FA at the first sign that there is any compatability.

 

[Mobbs]

Or that ^

 

[Logger]

I wrote something about a precursor to the Sweet FA somewhere. Was it the intro to my Existential Qootyism thread? I can't remember, but don't want to bump it just incase someone bugs me to write another one...

 

[Mobbs]

coughhttp://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/existential-qootyism.995377cough

 

[Logger]

coughhttp://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/existential-qootyism.995377cough

That's it, the Spiffing Qootball League. A gentler time when moustaches came pencil-thin, petticoats were de rigueur and hats were worn by all players, be they be-bonneted ladies or capped gentlemen.

 

[fumbler]

coughhttp://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/existential-qootyism.995377cough

This doesn't work anymore.

 

[akkaps]

This doesn't work anymore.

That's because the is a 'cough' at the end of the URL

Try this:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/existential-qootyism.995377

 

[fumbler]

Going to relook at this and add a few other leagues I have been scoring for.

Richo Qooty Union - RCU
Stripes National Association of Qootball - SNAQ
Far North Andian Qooty League - FNAQL

 

[fumbler]

Far North Andian Qooty League (FNAQL).

Season 1
East Andian Crushers, Alder Island Seals, Lakes Legends, Bestview Sandstorm, Hilltop Hoods, Andian Valley Vipers, Althena Aces, Three Ways Bees, Point Andian Pirates, Open Bay Albatross, Western Grass Hogs

Season 2
East Andian Crushers, Althena Aces, Three Ways Bees, Open Bay Albatross, Lakes Legends, Hilltop Hoods, Andian Valley Vipers, Alder Island Seals, Point Andian Pirates, Bestview Sandstorm, Western Grass Hogs

Season 3
Point Andian Pirates, Verina Victors*, Lakes Legends, East Andian Crushers, Alder Island Seals, Open Bay Albatross, Althena Aces, Bestview Sandstorm, Andian Valley Vipers, Hilltop Hoods, Three Ways Bees, Western Grass Hogs#

Season 4
Alder Island Seals, East Andian Crushers, Three Ways Bees, Point Andian Pirates, Parintren Parrots*, Open Bay Albatross, Verina Victors, Lakes Legends, Bestview Sandstorm, Andian Valley Vipers, Althena Aces, Hilltop Hoods,

Season 5
Bestview Sandstorm, Alder Island Seals, East Andian Crushers, Three Ways Bees, Open Bay Albatross, Verina Victors, Lakes Legends, Althena Aces, Point Andian Pirates, Parintren Parrots, Andian Valley Vipers, Hilltop Hoods,

Season 6
Alder Island Seals, Three Ways Bees, Point Andian Pirates, Althena Aces, Open Bay Albatross, Verina Victors, Bestview Sandstorm, East Andian Crushers, Andian Valley Vipers, Lakes Legends, Parintren Parrots, Hilltop Hoods,

Season 7
Verina Victors, Point Andian Pirates, Alder Island Seals, East Andian Crushers, Three Ways Bees, Andian Valley Vipers, Open Bay Albatross, Lakes Legends#, Bestview Sandstorm, Althena Aces, Hilltop Parrots ^,

Season 8
East Andian Crushers, Point Andian Pirates, Three Ways Bees, Bestview Sandstorm, Alder Island Seals, Althena Aces, Verina Victors, Andian Valley Vipers, Hilltop Hoods+, Open Bay Albatross,
+Parintren Parrots unmerged from Hilltop Hoods and joined 0,

Season 9
Three Ways Bees, Althena Aces, Open Bay Albatross, Hilltop Hoods, East Andian Crushers, Point Andian Pirates, Bestview Sandstorm, Alder Island Seals, Verina Victors, Andian Valley Vipers,

Season 10
East Andian Crushers, Althena Aces, Three Ways Bees, Open Bay Albatross, Verina Victors, Hilltop Hoods, Andian Valley Vipers, Alder Island Seals, Point Andian Pirates, Bestview Sandstorm,

Season 11
East Andian Crushers, Open Bay Albatross, Verina Victors, Hilltop Hoods, Andian Valley Vipers, Point Andian Pirates, Bestview Sandstorm, Althena Aces, Three Ways Bees, Alder Island Seals

Season 12
Bestview Sandstorm, East Andian Crushers, Andian Valley Vipers, Open Bay Albatross, Verina Victors, Hilltop Hoods, Alder Island Seals, Althena Aces, Three Ways Bees, Point Andian Pirates,

* Clubs first season
> Name change
^ Merged or combined clubs
+ Returning Club
" Ceased
# Joined West Andian National Qooty Association (WANQA)
= Joined Andian Independent Sporting League (AISL)
@ Joined Richo Qooty Union (RQU)
< Joined Adlencia United Professional League (AUPL)

===============================================================
            S 12 Club            |      Wins
===============================================================
Team Name  | Nickname | Founded | FNAQL Champs | Merged | ARC
===============================================================
Alder Island | Seals | S1 | 2 | 0 | 1
Althena | Aces | S1 | 0 | 0 | 0
Andian Valley | Vipers | S1 | 0 | 0 | 0
Bestview | Sandstorm | S1 | 2 | 0 | 1
East Andian | Crushers | S1 | 5 | 0 | 4
Hilltop | Hoods | S1 | 0 | 0 | 0
Open Bay | Albatross S1 | 0 | 0 | 0
Point Andian | Pirates S1 | 1 | 0 | 0
Three Ways | Bees | S1 | 1 | 0 | 0
Verina | Victors | S3 | 1 | 0 | 0
===============================================================

 

[fumbler]

WEST ANDIAN NATIONAL QOOTY ASSOTIATION. (WANQA)

Season 1
West Pardian Penguins, Barrier Beach Pelicans, Crestal Carriers, Blernti Hills Big Greens, West Cael Warriors, Cael Plains Darts, Wasniol Wombats, Paradise Pectorals, North Stars, Barrier Eastside Eagles, South Andian Spiders, Central Hills Stallions,

Season 2
Barrier Eastside Eagles, Crestal Carriers, South Andian Spiders, West Pardian Penguins, Barrier Beach Pelicans, Blernti Hills Big Greens, Cael Plains Darts, Paradise Pectorals, Wasniol Wombats, Central Hills Stallions, Dalston Harbour Sea Saints*, North Stars, West Cael Warriors,

Season 3
Paradise Pectorals, Wasniol Wombats, West Cael Warriors, Rosnelat Beavers*, South Andian Spiders, West Pardian Penguins, Barrier Beach Pelicans, Blernti Hills Big Greens, Western Grass Hogs*, Crestal Carriers, Cael Plains Darts, Dalston Harbour Sea Saints, Barrier Eastside Eagles, Central Hills Stallions=, North Stars,

Season 4
Rosnelat Beavers, Western Grass Hogs, Paradise Pectorals, Wasniol Wombats, West Cael Warriors, West Pardian Penguins, Barrier Beach Pelicans, Barrier Eastside Eagles, Blernti Hills Big Greens, Crestal Carriers, South Andian Spiders, North Stars, Cael Plains Darts, Dalston Harbour Sea Saints,

Season 5
Barrier Beach Pelicans, Rosnelat Beavers, Western Grass Hogs, South Andian Spiders, Cael Plains Darts, West Pardian Penguins, Dalston Harbour Sea Saints, Paradise Pectorals, Wasniol Wombats, West Cael Warriors, Barrier Eastside Eagles^, Blernti Hills Big Greens, North Stars^, Crestal Carriers,

Season 6
Paradise Pectorals, West Cael Warriors, Barrier City United^, Wasniol Wombats, Barrier Beach Pelicans, Rosnelat Beavers, Western Grass Hogs, South Andian Spiders, Cael Plains Darts, West Pardian Penguins, Dalston Harbour Sea Saints, Blernti Hills Big Greens, Crestal Carriers,

Season 7
Barrier City United, Lakes Legends*, Barnamble Sardines*, Paradise Pectorals, West Cael Warriors, Wasniol Wombats, Barrier Beach Pelicans, Rosnelat Beavers, Cael Plains Darts, West Pardian Penguins, Western Grass Hogs, South Andian Spiders, Dalston Harbour Sea Saints, Blernti Hills Big Greens, Crestal Carriers,

Season 8
Barrier City United, Blernti Hills Big Greens, Barnamble Sardines, Lakes Legends=, West Cael Warriors@ , Barrier Beach Pelicans, Wasniol Wombats, South Andian Spiders, Rosnelat Beavers@ , Cael Plains Darts@ , Paradise Pectorals, West Pardian Penguins, Western Grass Hogs, Dalston Harbour Sea Saints, Crestal Carriers",

Season 9
Barrier City United, Barnamble Sardines@, Blernti Hills Big Greens, Barrier Beach Pelicans, Wasniol Wombats, South Andian Spiders, Paradise Pectorals, West Pardian Penguins, Western Grass Hogs, Dalston Harbour Sea Saints,

Season 10
South Andian Spiders, Blernti Hills Big Greens, Western Grass Hogs, Barrier City United, Dalston Harbour Sea Saints, Barrier Beach Pelicans, Wasniol Wombats, Paradise Pectorals, West Pardian Penguins,

Season 11
Barrier Beach Pelicans, South Andian Spiders, Blernti Hills Big Greens, Barrier City United, West Pardian Penguins, Western Grass Hogs, Dalston Harbour Sea Saints, Wasniol Wombats, Paradise Pectorals@ ,

Season 12
West Pardian Penguins, Barrier Beach Pelicans, South Andian Spiders, Wasniol Wombats, Blernti Hills Big Greens, Western Grass Hogs, Barrier City United, Dalston Harbour Sea Saints,

* Clubs first season
> Name change
^ Merged or combined clubs
+ Returning Club
" Ceased
# Joined West Andian National Qooty Association (WANQA)
= Joined Andian Independent Sporting League (AISL)
@ Joined Richo Qooty Union (RQU)
< Joined Adlencia United Professional League (AUPL)

Code:
===============================================================
S 12 Club | Wins
===============================================================
Team Name | Nickname | Founded | FNAQL Champs | Merged | ARC
===============================================================
Barrier Beach | Pelicans | S1 | 2 | 0 | 0
Barrier City United | | S6 | 3 | 1 | 2
Blernti Hills | Big Greens | S1 | 0 | 0 | 0
Dalston Harbour | Sea Saints | S2 | 0 | 0 | 0
South Andian | Spiders | S1 | 1 | 0 | 0
Wasniol | Wombats | S1 | 0 | 0 | 0
Western | Grass Hogs | S3 | 0 | 0 | 0
West Pardian | Penguins | S1 | 2 | 0 | 1
===============================================================

 

[Mobbs]

Kennedy Parker :

The only other competition still running in Sweet is the Suburban FA. I haven't checked up on it's health recently, but a couple of seasons back the teams were :
- Razors,
- Titans,
- Darkness Eternal,
- Junkyard Dogs,
- Hurricanes,
- Eastside (2nds),
- West Gate and
- Old Timmians (nee Team Timmy)

akkaps mentioned earlier today that there was also a District FL. This competition did indeed exist, but was wound up after what we at the Sweet FA would call Season 19. Team Timmy, the Eastside Reserve team and the Trolls all transferred from this league to the Suburban FA. While both were operating, the Suburban comp was hosting most inner suburban clubs while the District comp handled the comparative outliers (not a precise demarcation).

Prior to this, a "City Competition" lasted until around (Sweet FA-equiv.) Season 15. Before that it was basically these three plus the Sweet FA right back to the inception of the big league. When the Sweet FA was first founded, a lot of social competitions dissolved within 12 months. An attempt was made to compile a "Central Association" to replace them, but nearly every team which got comfortable in it was immediatele snapped up by the Sweet FA, until it could simply no longer reconstitute itself.

Anyhoo, as far as I can determine, here are the competing clubs in each competition in each season. I think there are gaps, as once or twice a competition would operate with only 2 clubs! The 3-club Attenboro comp is confirmed, though - these were blase social get-togethers as much as sporting fixtures and it didn't take much to get an association off the ground back then.

There's 12 of them, so I need to split this into two posts. Note that the green background colour behind some team names can be ignored, it's my working data and I was using it to check off a list of teams once. Team names might slightly change without identifying in which season, but most times they are explained. Home ground is shown on some but not all occasions, and I would have to access another dataset to see which seasons this applies to in each case.

Each instance of an "x" shows a reference to that team playing in that league in that season. Where there were league moves, formations, foldings, and mergers, these are usually shown in the relevant place chronologically, although the text is sometimes truncated by the cell space available.

 

[Mobbs]

 

[Mobbs]

Additionally I have a number of documents detailing a few of the pathways leading to some of the current clubs, which I can also link if requested. Most should usually show up by searching the forum for the tag "#sweetlore"

 

[Kennedy Parker]

Kennedy Parker :

The only other competition still running in Sweet is the Suburban FA. I haven't checked up on it's health recently, but a couple of seasons back the teams were :
- Razors,
- Titans,
- Darkness Eternal,
- Junkyard Dogs,
- Hurricanes,
- Eastside (2nds),
- West Gate and
- Old Timmians (nee Team Timmy)

akkaps mentioned earlier today that there was also a District FL. This competition did indeed exist, but was wound up after what we at the Sweet FA would call Season 19. Team Timmy, the Eastside Reserve team and the Trolls all transferred from this league to the Suburban FA. While both were operating, the Suburban comp was hosting most inner suburban clubs while the District comp handled the comparative outliers (not a precise demarcation).

Prior to this, a "City Competition" lasted until around (Sweet FA-equiv.) Season 15. Before that it was basically these three plus the Sweet FA right back to the inception of the big league. When the Sweet FA was first founded, a lot of social competitions dissolved within 12 months. An attempt was made to compile a "Central Association" to replace them, but nearly every team which got comfortable in it was immediatele snapped up by the Sweet FA, until it could simply no longer reconstitute itself.

Anyhoo, as far as I can determine, here are the competing clubs in each competition in each season. I think there are gaps, as once or twice a competition would operate with only 2 clubs! The 3-club Attenboro comp is confirmed, though - these were blase social get-togethers as much as sporting fixtures and it didn't take much to get an association off the ground back then.

There's 12 of them, so I need to split this into two posts. Note that the green background colour behind some team names can be ignored, it's my working data and I was using it to check off a list of teams once. Team names might slightly change without identifying in which season, but most times they are explained. Home ground is shown on some but not all occasions, and I would have to access another dataset to see which seasons this applies to in each case.

Each instance of an "x" shows a reference to that team playing in that league in that season. Where there were league moves, formations, foldings, and mergers, these are usually shown in the relevant place chronologically, although the text is sometimes truncated by the cell space available.

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Awesome, actually contemplating the feasibility of a secondary competition ala FA Cup. Straight knockouts where lower league teams can compete with the top league. Sure there's not gonna be much activity due to bot teams, but the Qooty purists may have an interest and it builds up the lore.

 

[akkaps]

Mobbs, my suggestion from earlier in this thread still stands. Creating an official reserves comp, using players not selected in the XX and recently delisted players.

 

[Mobbs]

Mobbs, my suggestion from earlier in this thread still stands. Creating an official reserves comp, using players not selected in the XX and recently delisted players.

I like it too. But when it was proposed once before, boncer34 said no. And we still mostly do what he says.
JWS started a kind of reserve thing once and was talking about trying it again, but stuff happened.
A second-tier comp where there was no pressure on players to post, like ... hardly at all, would be pretty cool. But it's still an additional administrative workload.

 

[akkaps]

I like it too. But when it was proposed once before, boncer34 said no. And we still mostly do what he says.
JWS started a kind of reserve thing once and was talking about trying it again, but stuff happened.
A second-tier comp where there was no pressure on players to post, like ... hardly at all, would be pretty cool. But it's still an additional administrative workload.

*ing boncer Thought I'd ask 6 years later.

It would be very similar to the one JWS started. We could use fumbler's SPC teams as catchment areas + teams that wanted to create their own affiliate teams (eg: ESH reserves, The Jets FFC) + a few failed bids (eg: West Gate Trolls, OFG Warriors, mantis' team).
There would be one weekly Round thread for all the games, teams would be due (in match thread) Friday, and games posted Monday (like this used to be).
The teams would be full of inactives, so there would not be any pressure to post or keep posting numbers.
As for the workload, I'm not sure I'm the best person to compare and comment on it.

 

[Mobbs]

As for the workload, I'm not sure I'm the best person to compare and comment on it.

You don't need to compare it.
You don't need to comment on it.
You only need to do it

 

[boncer34]

I like it too. But when it was proposed once before, boncer34 said no. And we still mostly do what he says.
JWS started a kind of reserve thing once and was talking about trying it again, but stuff happened.
A second-tier comp where there was no pressure on players to post, like ... hardly at all, would be pretty cool. But it's still an additional administrative workload.

I wouldn't have been that succinct.

And I stand by it. There's not enough active posters to justify it.