Luke Beveridge - You're an Idiot

[Mr Commissioner]

http://www.3aw.com.au/news/western-...ce-of-essendon-34-on-3aw-20160211-gmrwtr.html

The whole AFL is a boys club with a bubble mentality.

This quote for me sums up the ametuer mindset that still permeates through the AFL ranks.

"Anybody who steps out of line or is a boat rocker probably doesn't last that long," he said.

"The Essendon players have been treated like a European cycling team who should know better.

"Well, no, they shouldn't know better because they had no grounding to work from."

I cannot fathom this.

At the AFL induction camp, EVERY SINGLE PLAYER ATTENDS upon being drafted into the AFL system, they are given a thorough run down on the AFL playing rules, the WADA code and the responsibility of each and every player.

The players are told that they can be prosecuted with no positive tests, that the intent to gain competitive advantage is evidence enough to cop a doping infraction.

This statement, to me, proves that even still within the coaches ranks of the AFL the Anti-Doping message isn't getting through.

 

[Cylon7]

http://www.3aw.com.au/news/western-...ce-of-essendon-34-on-3aw-20160211-gmrwtr.html

The whole AFL is a boys club with a bubble mentality.

"Anybody who steps out of line or is a boat rocker probably doesn't last that long," he said.

Got agree with these two points, Luke. How about speaking up for the innocent 'boat rockers' in this game?

 

[Oscarman]

Totally not surprised with Beveridge's comments. Am surprised anyone would not expect comments like these - the AFL is as insular as any industry in the world.

 

[compact72]

Made a dick out of himself. Him and Gordon should just stfu. Just because they are salty because Stewart is gone, no need for s**t useless comments

 

[Lockyer24]

Sounds like a coach who lost his key forward to me

 

[mxett]

Beveridge, another essendon mouth piece. What would he know? Has he ever been in a team environment, or coached an AFL team?

 

[gavaniacono]

If you treat them like toddlers, they may never grow up. "On the good boat, AFL..."

 

[hairy biker]

"The Essendon players have been treated like a European cycling team who should know better.

"Well, no, they shouldn't know better because they had no grounding to work from."

Seriously this argument that AFL players are seemingly 'special' (in every sense of the word), is just mind-numbing, but sadly it is presented persistently, from both inside the AFL tent and with most of the media.

FFS AFL players are adults They have individual responsibilities.
If they fail to meet those responsibilities they suffer the consequences.

You know like every other member of society that fails to meet their obligations.

 

[blueboy25]

At the AFL induction camp, EVERY SINGLE PLAYER ATTENDS upon being drafted into the AFL system, they are given a thorough run down on the AFL playing rules, the WADA code and the responsibility of each and every player.

The players are told that they can be prosecuted with no positive tests, that the intent to gain competitive advantage is evidence enough to cop a doping infraction.

The players are taught this at Under 18's level before they even enter the AFL system.

 

[Lockyer24]

Wish Saad got such a passionate defense

 

[compact72]

Beveridge, another essendon mouth piece. What would he know? Has he ever been in a team environment, or coached an AFL team?

Either way, he and everybody should know to step outside this team environment so they act like sheep.

 

[sherb]

Beveridge, another essendon mouth piece. What would he know? Has he ever been in a team environment, or coached an AFL team?

From the quotes attributed to him, not a lot.

 

[sherb]

"The Essendon players have been treated like a European cycling team who should know better.

"Well, no, they shouldn't know better because they had no grounding to work from."

Maybe if the players had received education about drugs and the WADA code this whole episode wouldn't have happened hey Lukey?

FFS........

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

So the European cycling teams should know better, but our Bombers are good honest blokes that you'd love to have a beer with and couldn't possibly be expected to know what goes into their good, honest, guide dog training, red-cross donating bodies?

 

[Milanista28]

Love it, A lot of people on our side now, Public starting to see how AFL clubs operate and how the players were put in a terrible position, They've been extremely brave.

 

[Jimthegreat]

http://www.3aw.com.au/news/western-...ce-of-essendon-34-on-3aw-20160211-gmrwtr.html

The whole AFL is a boys club with a bubble mentality.

This quote for me sums up the ametuer mindset that still permeates through the AFL ranks.

"Anybody who steps out of line or is a boat rocker probably doesn't last that long," he said.

"The Essendon players have been treated like a European cycling team who should know better.

"Well, no, they shouldn't know better because they had no grounding to work from."

I cannot fathom this.

At the AFL induction camp, EVERY SINGLE PLAYER ATTENDS upon being drafted into the AFL system, they are given a thorough run down on the AFL playing rules, the WADA code and the responsibility of each and every player.

The players are told that they can be prosecuted with no positive tests, that the intent to gain competitive advantage is evidence enough to cop a doping infraction.

This statement, to me, proves that even still within the coaches ranks of the AFL the Anti-Doping message isn't getting through.

Problem with AFL people they live in a bubble, and have no idea about aspects of anti-doping. Hence when Essendon gone done they couldn't understand why and make stupid comments. Players and coaches now need to be very understanding of the WADA/AFL Anti-doping code and understand the ramifications for breaching it.

Luke, welcome to the real world of sport.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Nothing brave about cheating

 

[The_Reaper]

I think the Chinese swim team is under a tad more pressure than the Essendon players.

I propose full amnesty for China.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Chinese swimmers are so so brave.

 

[LoungeLizard]

Love it, A lot of people on our side now, Public starting to see how AFL clubs operate and how the players were put in a terrible position, They've been extremely brave.

Not clubs, don't lump the rest in with the efc.
There is only one club that has a criminal conviction.

 

[Jimthegreat]

Love it, A lot of people on our side now, Public starting to see how AFL clubs operate and how the players were put in a terrible position, They've been extremely brave.

No, only stupid, naive AFL people are on your side. Says much about AFL Clubs and naiviety in regards to anti-doping and strict liability. It's not about how they operate but how they are supposed to operate.

Players weren't brave, they were extremely stupid and paying the price of their stupidity. Can't say they weren't warned about aspect of anti-doping and strict liability.

 

[Jimthegreat]

Chinese swimmers are so so brave.

Cyclists are so brave. Lance Armstrong, what a brave man. All those brave Russian athletes. Ben Johnson, a man among men due to his bravery...lol!!!!!!!!!!

 

[treegreen]

Interesting to see other teams get behind the Bombers. Pretty clear the whole league is doped to the eyeballs and genuinely shocked one of their own has been caught.

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

Interesting to see other teams get behind the Bombers. Pretty clear the whole league is doped to the eyeballs and genuinely shocked one of their own has been caught.

You're probably right. Makes me think of Andy Schleck, who won the 2010 Tour de France after Contador had it stripped. He said he still considered Contador to be the winner because he won it on the road. He was never busted, but his brother and teammate Frank Schleck copped a suspension a few years later. Comments like his raise eyebrows to me - Luke Darcy's defence of Jobe was sickening, especially when he was a client of Dank.

It won't sit well if either Cotchin or Mitchell turn down the Brownlow (if it's offered).

 

[Ron The Bear]

Another doping excuser with an axe to grind.

Any chance of players and coaches not directly affected by the bans airing their opinions?