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http://www.zdnet.com/au/nbn-co-to-rent-telstra-copper-for-fibre-to-the-node-trial-7000026583/

NBN Co chief operations officer Greg Adcock has said that NBN Co will likely rent copper lines from Telstra as the company trials fibre to the node ahead of a wider rollout of the technology.

In NBN Co's first half-year results meeting held in Sydney today, the company revealed that there would be a fibre-to-the-node pilot in Umina, near Woy Woy, on the New South Wales central coast, and in Epping in Melbourne's north. For the pilot, NBN Co will build two small-scaled copper serving area modules with kerbside nodes connecting to spare copper pairs in a Telstra pillar.

Each trial site will serve up to 100 premises as part of the trial, NBN Co said.
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hmmmmm, trial in 2015 then every premises gets 25mbps less than 1 year later.....

https://www.liberal.org.au/fast-affordable-sooner-coalitions-plan-better-nbn

Under the Coalition’s NBN all premises will have access to download speeds 25mbps to 100mbps by the end of 2016. The minimum speed will rise to 50mbps by the end of 2019 for 90 per cent of fixed line users.
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This is a bit embarrassing.....

ALMOST $7 billion of government funds have been ploughed into the National Broadband Network to complete just 3 per cent of the rollout and NBN Co’s much-vaunted “Gigabit Nation” service does not have a single end-user customer.

NBN Co made the revelation about the turbocharged one-gigabit service during Senate estimates hearings yesterday, which Labor’s former communications minister Stephen Conroy had boasted would help drive productivity growth and create the jobs of the future.

It also emerged there was only one end customer on NBN Co’s 250 megabits-per-second service - which is one quarter of the speed of the gigabit service - in a fillip to the Coalition’s model of a cheaper, slower NBN.
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...-3pc-of-network/story-fn59niix-1226837728018#
 
Todman said:
The network isn't finished yet, it could still cost that much with cost blowouts like we've seen already.
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Do you understand the difference between "could" and "will"? The new NBNCo put in outrageous estimate comparisons and refused to detail how they got to their cost projection yet it was still $34B less than the $90B that Turnbull claimed prior to the election. But then what's a little 67% overestimation amongst friends when an election is on the line.
 
yibbida said:
http://www.itwire.com/it-policy-news/govenrment-tech-policy/63161-maybe-we-did-overestimate-labor’s-nbn-cost-admits-government



Is this the first admission from the Government that they lied while in opposition?
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The NBN with a FTTP infrastructure as planned by Labor enables a broadcast delivery service of a speed and quality that far outstrips the “virtually unchallenged” present market position of the News-Corp-owned Foxtel service. Before the September election, Coalition opposition to FTTP was said to be based on cost - their policy to adopt the slower, non-competitive FTTN network was claimed to reduced expenditure in the “budget crisis”. But this week, Coalition spokesmen admitted that the estimate of the FTTP cost they had taken to the election was “perhaps a little high” - overestimated by no less than $34bn. Of course, the cost of the the FTTN network the Coalition is implementing has “increased since it was announced”, yet the government will be proceeding with inferior technology anyway.
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http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...f-entitlement-doesnt-apply-to-murdochs-empire

Hobbled to please Murdoch or is that just a pleasant side-effect for the Libs and Rupert?
 
Footy Smarts said:
Do you understand the difference between "could" and "will"? The new NBNCo put in outrageous estimate comparisons and refused to detail how they got to their cost projection yet it was still $34B less than the $90B that Turnbull claimed prior to the election. But then what's a little 67% overestimation amongst friends when an election is on the line.
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Smarts it could still be 90 billion. The operating losses will be capitalised until the thing is completed as you can imagine the NBN is losing money at a rapid rate. It is difficult to know how much given the progress, lack of take up etc.
 
http://www.watoday.com.au/it-pro/go...ll-starts-fifth-nbn-audit-20140307-hvgmh.html

Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull has commissioned a fifth audit of the national broadband network since coming to office in September.

The inquiry will concentrate on the period from April 2008 to May 2010. It will look into the processes that led to the creation of NBN Co, the builder of the network, and the steps leading to an implementation study. It is in addition to a review of NBN Co governance already under way by auditors KordaMentha.

Mr Turnbull has appointed former Telstra director Bill Scales to head the audit.
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Mr Fraudband living up to his name.
 

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http://www.watoday.com.au/it-pro/go...ear-says-malcolm-turnbull-20140314-hvijg.html

Australians will know what type of technology will be used to connect their homes to the Coalition's national broadband network no later than December, following the release of the revised NBN Co corporate plan in July, Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull says.
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So, 15 months after taking office with fully costed polices ready to be implemented from Day 1 you may know how crap your future internet connection will be? All this at a cost of $47 Billion.


Where are all the shrills that were so outraged these past few years?

https://www.liberal.org.au/our-plan/infrastructure


Delivering more affordable broadband – rolling it out faster

The Coalition will deliver high speed broadband that is both affordable for families and businesses and cost effective for taxpayers.

  • We will for the first time do a fully transparent cost-benefit analysis of the National Broadband Network, to find out the quickest and most cost- efficient way to upgrade broadband to all areas where services are now unavailable or sub- standard. This is the cost-benefit analysis Labor didn’t do before committing to spend tens of billions of dollars on the NBN.
  • We will roll out super-fast broadband using whichever is the most effective and cost efficient technology and we will use existing infrastructure where we can.
  • We will roll it out faster to high priority areas.
  • We will end billions of dollars of wasteful spending on the NBN and deliver more of the modern infrastructure we urgently need while encouraging competition wherever possible to put downward pressure on prices.
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https://www.liberal.org.au/fast-affordable-sooner-coalitions-plan-better-nbn

The next Coalition government will deliver fast broadband that’s affordable for all Australians.

The Coalition’s plan to transform the NBN will see:

· Download speeds of between 25 and 100 megabits per second by the end of 2016 and 50 to 100 megabits per second by 2019.

· The rollout of the NBN under the Coalition will be complete by the end of 2019.

· Regions with substandard internet services will receive priority rollout.

· Basic broadband plans will always be more affordable under the Coalition than under Labor. Projections show that prices will be $24 cheaper a month by 2021 than under Labor’s NBN projected prices.

· The Coalition’s NBN will cost tens of billions less to complete than Labor’s NBN.

The Coalition’s plan will ensure the National Broadband Network is rolled out faster and cheaper, resulting in lower prices for consumers.

Families and businesses will enjoy significant increases in bandwidth given that download rates in Australia currently average less than 5 megabits per second.

Under the Coalition’s NBN all premises will have access to download speeds 25mbps to 100mbps by the end of 2016. The minimum speed will rise to 50mbps by the end of 2019 for 90 per cent of fixed line users.

We will give highest priority to the suburbs, towns and regions with the poorest broadband services today.
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Yet another reason why the NBN is a bad idea! Another technology which in a relatively short period of time could render hard wired internet services uncompetitive:

Here's The Technology That's Going To Make Your Phone's Internet 1,000 Times Faster Than 4G
Kyle RussellYesterday at 2:00 PM363
Artemis founder and CEO Steve Perlman
In today’s world, there’s one area of technology that can almost never be fast enough: the wireless networks that power our mobile devices.
Despite decades of advancements, we still lose signal when walking around in a big city like New York or San Francisco.
Or when attending a popular sporting event — individual towers just can’t handle thousands of people trying to move data at once.
But a hot startup with some major engineering talent is hoping to change all of that.
Founded in 2011, Artemis is a startup working on pCell, a new wireless standard that it thinks could leapfrog 4G altogether.
Like any new, potentially disruptive technology, pCell has a ton of hype and uncertainty around it. We’ve put together the following guide to pCell for those who want to know more without any of the confusion or tricky marketing language.
What is pCell?
Cell towers as we know them today can be visualized as giant umbrella tops. You deploy them, and they broadcast a bubble of reception that gets weaker as you get farther away. They have to be far enough away from each other so as to not cause interference, but close enough together that you can move between their areas of coverage and still have cell service. If you have too many people in one place, their data use can bog down a tower for everyone.
Artemis’ technology takes a very different direction. Rather than carefully spacing out a relatively small number of towers, Artemis wants to deploy a massive number of boxes the size of routers — called “pWaves” — that will provide much better service to a much smaller area.
Rather than working against interference, pCell embraces the collision of radio waves. By combining the incoming signals from several of the pWave base stations, each pCell user is given the equivalent of their own “personal cell” (hence the name) — which basically means getting full bars of LTE at all times becomes the new standard, while “good” signal strength means getting a signal that’s as much as 1,000 times faster than what we’re all used to.
pWaves are small enough to deploy in a number of unobtrusive locations.
How is pCell better than 4G or LTE?
Besides speed and signal strength, it uses a lot less power. pWave radios use a 1-milliwatt transmitter to deliver data, compared with the 250 milliwatts used by most Wi-Fi radios and even larger amounts of power used by cellular towers.
They also use less power on the user’s end, too: phones as they exist today would waste far less power searching for a signal, and one day “pCell Native” devices could use parts that use even less power than the Wi-Fi chips built into devices like the iPod Touch today.
Going back to the carrier side of things, pCell also brings significant reductions in the amount of infrastructure needed to power a cell network. Unlike cell towers, which need a massive fibre infrastructure to provide enough bandwidth for all their users, pWaves can be deployed in enough locations that each unit can “see” another unit, meaning they can bounce data around using line-of-sight radio waves for far less money. And instead of using custom hardware to handle all signal processing, a carrier using pCell can run the software behind it on any sufficiently powerful Linux computer.
Will I need a new phone to use pCell?
Nope. To make adopting the technology as easy as possible, Artemis engineered pCell to work with regular LTE devices — so when it’s ready, your iPhone or Android device should already be compatible. That also means you’ll be able to use your phone on a pCell network and still have it work when you go somewhere that’s still running regular LTE cellular service.
With that said, there will be some devices made “pCell Native” that will use less power (and thus get better battery life) than regular LTE-compatible devices.
In a recent demo, Artemis CEO Steve Perlman demonstrated pCell transmitting HD video to eight iPhones simultaneously.
How long until I can use pCell?
The first consumer launch of pCell is scheduled for the fourth quarter of 2014, with the initial rollout taking place in San Francisco. Artemis is working with a wireless partner to deploy pWaves to as many as 350 rooftops in the city, which should be more than enough to blanket the city — for the lucky few who get to try it out, that is.
From there, Artemis says that full pCell deployment will begin at some point early next year. In a demo last month at Columbia University, Artemis CEO Steve Perlman claimed that the technology could be deployed in all major markets by the end of 2015, but we’re doubtful; even the most exciting technologies need to prove themselves before companies will be willing to spend billions building them out into their nationwide infrastructures.
 
Where does it say these street corner wireless will replace fixed fibre ?

And how do they connect together ? All that traffic will need serious connectors

It might actually working by the time " ready to rule " turnbull finds out which way his arse is pointing
 
Heres an idea. Let road authorities compete with telecoms companies and mount these things on traffic poles. Scrap the speed and red light cameras this will earn more revenue

I think roads nsw were looking at this for a private network
 
Todman said:
Yet another reason why the NBN is a bad idea! Another technology which in a relatively short period of time could render hard wired internet services uncompetitive
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... except for the fact the proliferation of wireless use is already causing concerns over energy consumption in Australia - it's generally omitted from these articles that wireless/mobile services are an energy intensive way of transmitting data, especially compared to optic fixed line services.

Hence the wireless component of NBN was around the 7% mark when 11-12% would make sense if the energy equation was left out of planning.
 
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