Other New Patriots Scandal - DeflateGate

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Galactic said:
Agree with that, but I'm not asking for harsh moderation what I'm asking is for the moderator to aknowledge his opinions seem to bring others to believe anything goes on all matters patriots
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Anything does go, to a certain extent. Censorship of opinion I don't believe in. If people don't like a channel they can switch it. If people don't like an opined post, they can ignore. Also, most telling, people all have minds of their own. People don't tee off extra at the Patriots because I tee off. They tee off because they feel that way. We're talking OPINIONS here. If anything, people put down GG and his beliefs/thoughts more than not. And again, I am %100 genuine, because they're all entitled to their opinions and I don't believe in censoring them, if they disagree with me about topics or generally want to poke fun at or troll me. Thick skin, but also I enjoy the humor in put downs and good trolls. Why people get frustrated with the Internet I'll never understand.
 
Chism said:
You get that when you are successful and haters are gunna hate mate. ;)

Most Cowboy hate is from a direct division rival who have won sweet **** all and it just continues as they wallow in their shallowness from the bottom rungs of the ladder constantly looking up at others while sooking and trying to discredit whatever they can for some sort of self contained ego boost to make them feel better about their own disenchanted misery of a team.

Take it on the chin and just laugh it off as biting back is feeding them. ;)
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I can't help myself when I see people post rubbish but for the most part I actually do ignore it. In fact I've probably ignored 99% of the bs posted on here but after a while I see a pattern....the bs becomes fact! Yes they are the jets of the nfc but I have to say most of the jets fans on here a respectable and respectful it's the team hoppers that are a real problem.
 
I also hate the Pats but it is not because of this deflate gate stuff at all honestly, it is just that i hate watching them on TV and i find everything about them boring and just MEHHH for some reason!!

I do massively respect them though and everything they have achieved which has been pretty blardy good under BB and Brady as they are a very professional franchise one can never write off.
 

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GG said:
Anything does go, to a certain extent. Censorship of opinion I don't believe in. If people don't like a channel they can switch it. If people don't like an opined post, they can ignore. Also, most telling, people all have minds of their own. People don't tee off extra at the Patriots because I tee off. They tee off because they feel that way. We're talking OPINIONS here. If anything, people put down GG and his beliefs/thoughts more than not. And again, I am %100 genuine, because they're all entitled to their opinions and I don't believe in censoring them, if they disagree with me about topics or generally want to poke fun at or troll me. Thick skin, but also I enjoy the humor in put downs and good trolls. Why people get frustrated with the Internet I'll never understand.
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Facepalm. GG repeating the same lies over and over and over again isn't opinion it's propaganda
 
Galactic said:
I can't help myself when I see people post rubbish but for the most part I actually do ignore it. In fact I've probably ignored 99% of the bs posted on here but after a while I see a pattern....the bs becomes fact! Yes they are the jets of the nfc but I have to say most of the jets fans on here a respectable and respectful it's the team hoppers that are a real problem.
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It becomes an issue of people talking s**t and trolling to fit in with the so called " In " crowd when you take an angst against certain teams as the support from others is there! I often wonder when reading a lot of the s**t on here if posters actually believe what they are saying or are just doing it for the reasons mentioned above and later always comes up trumps!

Bag and s**t on certain teams and the likes will come making it more attractive to do it as the sheep mentality ensues!

Not to mention most of the s**t stirrers have been following the NFL for a whole 5mins or 3-5 seasons at best which are now self proclaimed experts on everything NFL!
 
Chism said:
I also hate the Pats but it is not because of this deflate gate stuff at all honestly, it is just that i hate watching them on TV and i find everything about them boring and just MEHHH for some reason!!

I do massively respect them though and everything they have achieved which has been pretty blardy good under BB and Brady as they are a very professional franchise one can never write off.
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That's fine and have no problem with that I find Jerry quite the character myself
 
Galactic said:
That's fine and have no problem with that I find Jerry quite the character myself
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Thank god Steven is pulling the strings now in all honesty and JJ is taking the back seat but he did orchestrate our 3 SB wins in the 90's and he built/drafted that team but went AWOL lately!

Steven has rectified things though thank god and it is his team now not his Dads.
 
Chism said:
It becomes an issue of people talking s**t and trolling to fit in with the so called " In " crowd when you take an angst against certain teams as the support from others is there! I often wonder when reading a lot of the s**t on here if posters actually believe what they are saying or are just doing it for the reasons mentioned above and later always comes up trumps!

Bag and s**t on certain teams and the likes will come making it more attractive to do it as the sheep mentality ensues!

Not to mention most of the s**t stirrers have been following the NFL for a whole 5mins or 3-5 seasons at best which are now self proclaimed experts on everything NFL!
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That's so true and that's what really pisses me off. These noobs acting like they have superiority in the convo and they are "right" because they have numbers. That's the part of this forum I now hate.
 
Chism said:
Thank god Steven is pulling the strings now in all honesty and JJ is taking the back seat but he did orchestrate our 3 SB wins in the 90's and he built/drafted that team but went AWOL lately!

Steven has rectified things though thank god and it is his team now not his Dads.
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Don't worry at least your owner isn't over dosing on viagra and pissing off his entire fan base in the process although I was happy with his words yesterday
 
Galactic said:
Don't worry at least your owner isn't over dosing on viagra and pissing off his entire fan base in the process although I was happy with his words yesterday
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I will be IF the Cowboys are in the Superbowl this season!!! lol

:D
 
Galactic said:
That's so true and that's what really pisses me off. These noobs acting like they have superiority in the convo and they are "right" because they have numbers. That's the part of this forum I now hate.
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Yeah but the ones that sling the s**t the hardest and go for the low bearing fruit are generally the ones that are trying to hide their incompetence about an issue. Just need to press them a little bit for their arguments to crumble.

Some people just need to be challenged to improve their posting.
Other times you just need to get out of the stampede and come back in when things calm down.
 

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larkis said:
Yeah but the ones that sling the s**t the hardest and go for the low bearing fruit are generally the ones that are trying to hide their incompetence about an issue. Just need to press them a little bit for their arguments to crumble.

Some people just need to be challenged to improve their posting.
Other times you just need to get out of the stampede and come back in when things calm down.
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Yeah correct, probably the later for me personally.
 
Sven said:
I think injunction is the term you're looking for....

Although Brady is the subject of the case, it's the NFLPA that is running the case and they're trying to establish what is legal and what is not legal as far as the NFL (Goodell) is concerned. Even if Brady doesn't get an injunction and has to serve the 4 week suspension, the NFLPA will proceed with the case to establish a precedent.

All who can remember back to the Kevin Williams/Pat Williams Starcaps case, the legal proceedings continued for two years before a decision was finally handed down (with the NFL winning), and that was only because Kevin and Pat Williams gave up on the case.

If Brady and the NFLPA got an injunction it would be relatively easy to delay a final decision until Brady wanted to retire.....
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I disagree completely. Brady is driving the appeal not the other way around. The Commissioner has authority under conduct unbecoming to issue the penalty. The NFLPA knows this. If he loses his attempt to garner the injunction this lawsuit will evaporate into the wind. Other players have already let it be "leaked" they don't appreciate the NFLPA expending the funds it is expending on Mr. Brady.

The good news for Mr. Brady is that the judge has told the sides to try to work it out. So if he wants to stop pretending he didn't have things to hide I am confident that the league will let him slide with 2 games.

When that happens be fun to see the mental gymnastics Pats fans come up with to "explain" how he had no choice but to agree to a deal. Seeing as how currently, they were all confident this would be heard before Judge Doty and that the league had no chance at having the suspension upheld.
 
AmericanCrow said:
I disagree completely. Brady is driving the appeal not the other way around. The Commissioner has authority under conduct unbecoming to issue the penalty. The NFLPA knows this. If he loses his attempt to garner the injunction this lawsuit will evaporate into the wind. Other players have already let it be "leaked" they don't appreciate the NFLPA expending the funds it is expending on Mr. Brady.

The good news for Mr. Brady is that the judge has told the sides to try to work it out. So if he wants to stop pretending he didn't have things to hide I am confident that the league will let him slide with 2 games.

When that happens be fun to see the mental gymnastics Pats fans come up with to "explain" how he had no choice but to agree to a deal. Seeing as how currently, they were all confident this would be heard before Judge Doty and that the league had no chance at having the suspension upheld.
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I applaud your want to frame your opinion as a truth. The NFLPA and Brady are fighting this together mainly because he's the biggest star they have to stick it to Goodell. If you seriously believe the NFLPA is only working this angle for Brady, then you're sadly mistaken. Goodell routinely abuses his position. This is another piece in the NFLPA's wider CBA play come renewal time.
 
ausbacker said:
I applaud your want to frame your opinion as a truth. The NFLPA and Brady are fighting this together mainly because he's the biggest star they have to stick it to Goodell. If you seriously believe the NFLPA is only working this angle for Brady, then you're sadly mistaken. Goodell routinely abuses his position. This is another piece in the NFLPA's wider CBA play come renewal time.
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If you think for one second had Brady taken his medicine and not directed the NFLPA to appeal the decision that the NFLPA would have gone off on their own and appealed it out of some sort of principle you are kidding yourself. This is Brady driven and nothing more.

He will fold up like a cheap lawn chair and settle this thing. Just you watch.
 
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