Yeah, as a Brisbane Roar fan our rivalry with GCU actually felt genuine (unlike the Qclash) and was a fun rivalry. As a member of the Den I can tell you our best chants were sung against them. I also miss those away trips to Skilled Park, nice ground to watch the round ball game at.
r.e. AFL rivalries, there is still a lot of Victorian teams that I hate more than GC, because I barely have a reason to.
What did Gold Coast add?
They added a genuine local rivalry (unlike that manufactured Q-clash), a few away trips within driving distance and a team to laugh at because of a fat rich owner and poor crowds. For me it was a team to genuinely hate, and anyone who knows anything about sports would know it's more fun with a team to hate and GCU added that into the competition. The best Roar chants were sung when we played them and that is another thing I miss. GCU definitely had the potential to succeed, as they got over 11k to a pre-season friendly when they first started. Clive Palmer sabotaged it with stupid decisions like the crowd cap and making stupid calls like "freedom of speech" or "going undefeated for the whole season". The Suns have showed that a Gold Coast sporting team can succeed if it is run properly. They average 15k for a team that is non-competitve. Anyone who knows the SEQ area would know that it is a bandwagon area. GCS will have a waiting list when they start winning on a regular basis.
Riiiiight.
And 11k to a pre-season game. Plus they did have games that got up to 14k in attendance. Yes, they must have no interest whatsoever. None at all, those 11k and 14k must've been lost or something because Silent Alarm said so
The Titans were very successful when they started off before Michael Searle made bad business decisions. There doesn't need to be "billions of dollars" for a GC team to be successful. It just needs to be run properly.
Yes because putting a crowd cap isn't doing an awful lot wrong, or deliberately pissing off the FFA. Silent Alarm said so, it must be okay, right?
Of course they are going to consistently have the lowest attendances when the owner puts a crowd cap to save some money.
Again you are pretending to know more about Queensland with those three sweeping generalisations. You should stop posting as you are only embarrassing yourself with the continual dribble you post.
Firstly, don't use emoticons. It makes you look like a child. You should write an essay in Comic Sans if you think it's mature or grounded or acceptable.And 11k to a pre-season game. Plus they did have games that got up to 14k in attendance. Yes, they must have no interest whatsoever. None at all, those 11k and 14k must've been lost or something because Silent Alarm said so
I won't even scratch the surface on the amount of fallacies committed here. If you're happy to be immature and retort via sarcasm, all the power to you.
You have implied it. On the footy jumpers board, so many arguments of yours are "yeah the jumper is bad, but at least it isn't as bad as Brisbane's." In this argument alone, you've said Gold Coast should only exist because they gave Brisbane Roar a good rivalry. You haven't mentioned the other arguments. And believe me, there's a huge one you're missing out... it's simply arrogant to believe Brisbane Roar have the divine right to make the FFA loss money, all because they want a rivalry.
I agree wholeheartedly. But who doesn't? Unfortunately, our world requires money for lots of things. And running a sports team is one of those things. The FFA were working on a shoestring budget and thus were unable to run the club properly. The AFL have more money, and so can fund the club much better. All facets of your club will improve with more money: Directors, managers, coaching staff, admin, PRs, and marketing directors. The money the FFA had simply was not enough to run the club properly.
Your arguments are simply idiotic. In just this short phrase, you've committed two fallacies: A Strawman, and Poisoning the Well. All respect for your argument is now void.Yes because putting a crowd cap isn't doing an awful lot wrong, or deliberately pissing off the FFA. Silent Alarm said so, it must be okay, right?
Why shouldn't he have put a crowd cap in? It's not like 20,000 were going to every game and he decided, on a whim, to cap it at 5,000. In fact, the cap still allowed more fans to attend than did. In their two seasons, they averaged around 3,450 attendances. If the Gold Coast cared for their club and wanted it saved, they should've rallied up and attended matches. Instead, they spat the dummy and/or didn't even care enough to rock up. And if you're saying there were 10,000 others who felt disillusioned and cheated by the stadium cap, well, they can blame themselves: By not attending, they helped kill Gold Coast United.
It was a state based joke. I'm almost certain that was obvious...
What are you even talking about? The Wanderers exist in the biggest soccer talent pool in Australia! How could they not add anything to the league? Seriously, answer me that. The Wanderers exist in a great area for football: There's a large migrant population (who will favour the native, comfort game of soccer to rugby or Aussie rules), plenty of money, homegrown players, a large historical link to the sport, and a huge (by AU standards) population that's still growing. Most fans of the sport, in Australia, believe Western Sydney should have existed in season one: They deserve to.Also by your logic we should get rid of WSW, they add nothing to the competition for me, so by your logic they don't add anything at all to the competition, right?
For the World Cup bid. As soon as Qatar won it, they were gone.
Don't tell others how to enjoy their music, that they way a person acknowledges their team's history or way of enjoying their music is wrong and don't accuse people of not being a "true Radiohead fan" because they like Pablo Honey. It makes you look like a massive douche. If you don't want me to use emoticons, don't post crap.
Apart from the Suns opening game, derby, home game at the new Carrara and game v Collingwood, they haven't got a crowd over 20,000. The Suns also give out freebies to some of their home games. All the Suns games that got over 20,000 had some form of novelty value and some of their other games involved free tickets. I have gotten free tickets to Suns home games twice. Also every GWS home crowd over 10,000 had novelty value as well (GWS first game and first home game) and they give out free tickets as well. By your logic we must get rid of both expansion clubs.
Which is usually relevant to the discussion. It's people like you that make a big deal out of it, if you really don't care, don't respond and it wouldn't be a big deal.
I said GCU added something to the competition. Regardless of which team it is, a local rivalry is adding something. Just because they don't add anything to you does not meant they don't add anything at all to the competition. I never said BRFC had a devine right to make the FFA lose money. GCU were an arrogant, hateable club and they had their own identity. I'm sure us Roar fans weren't the only ones who hated them. Every sporting competition needs an arrogant hateable club. Imagine the AFL without Collingwood, Essendon or Carlton.
Of course a team needs money to succeed, it doesn't need "billions of dollars". They just needed to be run properly, be in touch with the local community (something GCU failed at really badly) and not deliberately restricting how many people could attend.
They were still averaging way over 5000 before Clive Palmer's crowd cap. The last home game against Fury before the crowd cap got over 10000 while the first game against the Fury after the crowd cap was around 2500. You are truly moronic if you seriously don't believe that restricting the amount of people that can attend stunts growth of the potential supporter base. If WSW, Heart, Suns or GWS did the same thing as Clive Palmer, they would get the same result as GCU. How can a team's supporters rally up and attend when the owner restricts how many people can do so.
Of course I believe WSW should exist. Unlike you I can acknowledge that just because they add nothing for me personally doesn't mean they add nothing to the competition whatsoever. And just because GCU added nothing to you didn't mean they added nothing to the league overall, because they definitely did.
