Scandal Nude pics of Cloke, Swan released

MagpieJo

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It is a good comparison.

Sure drink driving is more serious as its illegal, but from the whole 'representing your club and being a good role model and culture' point of view sending nude pics and basically cheating on your girlfriend/fiance is in the same ballpark.
WTAF? What are you smoking? Drunk driving kills! Who said they physically cheated on their girlfriends? I must have missed that part of the story! If it happened I'm sure it would be in there, even more money for the women! I can't believe they were dumb enough to pose for the pics, let alone send them, but gees, comparing it to drunk driving? You think drunk driving is only more serious because it's illegal? You might want to check with Brett Ratten on that one.

The women who handed the photos over deserve to be charged, not sure two years jail is the right sentence, you get that for hurting someone driving drunk. They should be named and shamed, the magazine should be looked at by the legal system, and Cloke and swan should get the riot act, or dumped, and maybe a smack in the nuts from their partners, and yes the club should let them know it's not on, because I'm guessing our sponsors didn't appreciate it.
 
http://www.sportingnews.com/afl-new...s-expose-dane-swan-travis-cloke-eddie-mcguire
"What I am led to believe they have been completely stooged and sucked in," McGuire said.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-president-eddie-mcguire-20160117-gm7xv5.html
"It would seem that somebody's sucked these idiots into sending out photos and as a result they've got them and sold them to the media," McGuire told Triple M on Monday morning.

Looks like blame shifting to me.
An inherent problem within the AFL.
 

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I haven't read the thread but the question has to be asked...

Are the guys not victims of "revenge porn" laws?

Put away team bias: Close your eyes and imagine Swan and Cloke doing this to 2 sisters, and sharing the photos around the club.

They'd be hung, drawn and quartered from the Westpac Centre.

But because the shoe is on the other foot, these women make off with a heap of cold hard cash.

Can't see how that is fair in any way, shape or form.

In saying that though, Swan and Cloke were never really Mensa candidates. And this just proves it.
 

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I haven't read the thread but the question has to be asked...

Are the guys not victims of "revenge porn" laws?

Put away team bias: Close your eyes and imagine Swan and Cloke doing this to 2 sisters, and sharing the photos around the club.

They'd be hung, drawn and quartered from the Westpac Centre.

But because the shoe is on the other foot, these women make off with a heap of cold hard cash.

Can't see how that is fair in any way, shape or form.

In saying that though, Swan and Cloke were never really Mensa candidates. And this just proves it.
I suspect that enforcing the laws is not straight forward, otherwise there would be a lot more men in prison than there are. I also suspect the police would not proceed without a formal complaint, which for numerous reasons, they are not likely to get.
 

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I suspect that enforcing the laws is not straight forward, otherwise there would be a lot more men in prison than there are. I also suspect the police would not proceed without a formal complaint, which for numerous reasons, they are not likely to get.
And also because the laws are still not actually a part of the Crimes Act get, but are being debated.

But my point stands...

If these players shared images of 2 females around the club, what would their punishments be if it found its way into the media?

They'd both be sacked at an absolute minimum.

But these girls do it and they get a cash injection of $15,000 and Swan and Cloke are the bad guys?

We live in a sexist and racist society.

That being, if you're a white male, prepare to be victimised and pilloried. But if you attempt to do the same...

You're a pariah of the highest order.
 

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And also because the laws are still not actually a part of the Crimes Act get, but are being debated.

But my point stands...

If these players shared images of 2 females around the club, what would their punishments be if it found its way into the media?

They'd both be sacked at an absolute minimum.

But these girls do it and they get a cash injection of $15,000 and Swan and Cloke are the bad guys?

We live in a sexist and racist society.

That being, if you're a white male, prepare to be victimised and pilloried. But if you attempt to do the same...

You're a pariah of the highest order.
I think you are right, but wrong. They would be crucified by the media if they had done this, on the other hand, men with no public profile do this to women every day, with absolutely no consequences at all, so your claim it is a demonstration of sexism is just rubbish.

The double standard comes from Cloke and Swan having a high profile and those selling the pics (and why do you assume they are women, if is is a con, they are more likely to be men imho) being anonymous.

To be brutally frank, I would put your comment in the `sexist` category, not the treatment of these 2.

I can send you a link to a `revenge porn` website if you like, you show me how these posters, the vast majority white males, have been victimised and pilloried, or alternatively.

Incidently, a women in the UK just recently got a sentence, and placed on a sex offenders register for revenge porn (posting pics of her ex after he did the dirty on her)
 

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I think you are right, but wrong. They would be crucified by the media if they had done this, on the other hand, men with no public profile do this to women every day, with absolutely no consequences at all, so your claim it is a demonstration of sexism is just rubbish.

The double standard comes from Cloke and Swan having a high profile and those selling the pics (and why do you assume they are women, if is is a con, they are more likely to be men imho) being anonymous.

To be brutally frank, I would put your comment in the `sexist` category, not the treatment of these 2.

I can send you a link to a `revenge porn` website if you like, you show me how these posters, the vast majority white males, have been victimised and pilloried, or alternatively.

Incidently, a women in the UK just recently got a sentence, and placed on a sex offenders register for revenge porn (posting pics of her ex after he did the dirty on her)
I hope my post doesn't come across as sexist. I just don't like double standards.

However, you're right. Guys around the world do share images amongst themselves.

And they too should be hauled before the courts.

The UK case I did read about. But I also read about a wan in Adelaide "forced to have s.x with a prostitue while her husband filmed it and uploaded it to a website.

That guy should be jailed for years.

While this story is funny to people who don't like Collingwood/Swan/Cloke the very heart of it screams injustice to men.
 
And also because the laws are still not actually a part of the Crimes Act get, but are being debated.

But my point stands...

If these players shared images of 2 females around the club, what would their punishments be if it found its way into the media?

They'd both be sacked at an absolute minimum.

But these girls do it and they get a cash injection of $15,000 and Swan and Cloke are the bad guys?

We live in a sexist and racist society.

That being, if you're a white male, prepare to be victimised and pilloried. But if you attempt to do the same...

You're a pariah of the highest order.


Wendy Squires wrote a good opinion piece on it. For once a balanced and common sense

http://m.canberratimes.com.au/comme...-ok-regardless-of-gender-20160121-gmat6v.html
 
I haven't read the thread but the question has to be asked...

Are the guys not victims of "revenge porn" laws?

Put away team bias: Close your eyes and imagine Swan and Cloke doing this to 2 sisters, and sharing the photos around the club.

They'd be hung, drawn and quartered from the Westpac Centre.

But because the shoe is on the other foot, these women make off with a heap of cold hard cash.

Can't see how that is fair in any way, shape or form.

In saying that though, Swan and Cloke were never really Mensa candidates. And this just proves it.

Neil Balme mentioned on SEN on Friday that the boys would be within their rights to prosecute the women they sent the photos too but this would involve a drawn out court case, ongoing references to the photos and videos which would keep it in the media and the players aren't prepared to expose (pardon the pun) their partners, family and friends to that when it's their own Actions that have placed them in this situation. Something I'm sure woman's day and the women in question would of no doubt taken into consideration.
 

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Irrespective of the revenge porn line, it is clearly a civil breach of confidence issue. From memory there was a case where punitive damages were awarded where the person sent the photos to the woman's family which is no where near as bad as selling them to Woman's Day. I hope they sue the bitches into the ground.
 

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Just came across pics of a Nth Melb player online, they are nude and fap snapchat pics but luckily his head and d*** do not appear together so he could always deny. It's possible it isn't him but they sure look like it.

These dudes have got to know that once you snap someone, it's as good as posting them online yourself.
 

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Just came across pics of a Nth Melb player online, they are nude and fap snapchat pics but luckily his head and d*** do not appear together so he could always deny. It's possible it isn't him but they sure look like it.

These dudes have got to know that once you snap someone, it's as good as posting them online yourself.

Yeah but who cares?
 

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Just came across pics of a Nth Melb player online, they are nude and fap snapchat pics but luckily his head and d*** do not appear together so he could always deny. It's possible it isn't him but they sure look like it.

These dudes have got to know that once you snap someone, it's as good as posting them online yourself.
Any hints as to who/where?
 
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Just came across pics of a Nth Melb player online, they are nude and fap snapchat pics but luckily his head and d*** do not appear together so he could always deny. It's possible it isn't him but they sure look like it.

These dudes have got to know that once you snap someone, it's as good as posting them online yourself.
So it wasn't Brent Harvey then? Unless the photo included the player standing on a chair
 
He actually does have SWAN on it



Actually reads Sasketchawan ;)
I was thunking more of an elephant trunk kind of design but a swan works just as well.
 
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