Podcast Oh Canada! - Australian Footy in the far North

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Jul 2, 2010
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In this seventh installment in the International Footy series we talk to Bruce Parker, the President of AFL Canada.



Bruce is heavily involved in the Central Blues club in Ontario. He's been an official, an umpire, a coach and a player. He first saw the game on ESPN via Satellite in the early 90s. Later he went to a mall and saw an information booth run by a local Aussie rules club, and he subsequently joined. That was twenty years ago, and he's still as big a believer now as he was then.

Bruce says that AFL Canada's role is three-fold - Develop the national team, Develop the game in Canada, and assist the clubs where there isnt a league to grow the game so they can have their own league.

The board of AFL Canada is dominated by expatriate Australians with only 2 Canadians, including Bruce, of a total of nine.

Bruce also explains that the AFL has certain expectations with regard to players and staff, as well as junior development. AFL Canada's responsibility is to develop athletes who are AFL draft worthy, while also developing players who can play at the top of the national league and win international cups.

AFL Canada has 4 leagues under its umbrella -
  • BC Footy consists of a 4 team senior competition and 1 womens team that plays internal matches, and once a year they meet up with the Alberta league sides. In addition they have the North Delta Junior AFL Competition (run by Mike Mcfarlane)
  • In Alberta, they have womens and mens clubs in Calgary and Edmonton who more or less play each other, although AFL Canada expects at some point that they will split the clubs. When the cities play each other its 18 a side.
  • AFL Quebec, the french speaking brethren, who have a 4 team 9 a side competition that plays on Sundays.
  • AFL Ontario - 9 teams, playing 16 a side. Covered in depth here.
There are approximately twelve to thirteen hundred particpants, mostly adults over the age of eighteen. Of that thirteen hundred, around fifty percent are expatriate Australians. Bruce explains that while Ontario strictly limits the number of Australians per side, Alberta on the other hand is primarily expat Australians. This leaves about 700 players of Canadian Origin.

There are several schools programs across the country. Vancouver has the longest running of these. They have under 12's, under 14s, under 16s and under 18s programs playing generally 9 a side games on soccer fields due to a lack of ovals.

Most clubs will play modified rules depending on what grounds available. Generally soccer fields or canadian football fields are utilised due to their greater prominence. Ottawa uses the inside of a race track.

AFL Canada has an excellent relationship with the USAFL, with Calgary traveling down to the USAFL National Championships, along with the womens sides. Canadian clubs play friendly games against US sides. Bruce says its all about building the game.

He describes the relationship with the AFL as a tough one, he compares it to the NHL, which has nothing to do with international development in the game, to the AFL who appears genuinely interested in game development.

At the moment there isnt a Canadian mens nationals, but the women sides do have one. This year they had 8 womens teams attend the 9 a side Canadian national championships with all Canadian womens sides represented, totalling more than a hundred women.

Bruce says they want to have a mens nationals but with Ontario having a very structured and full season, its hard for them to commit to an additional nationals with flights and other costs involved. AFL Canada would like the nationals to be the stepping stone between clubs and national representation, where at the moment the national side is selected from the clubs level.

Eventually AFL Canada would like to receive Government support from Sport Canada but there are a number of roadblocks to that. Currently they are only in 5 provinces, out of 8, and they fall short of the 5,000 members required. Bruce reckons that AFL Canada will get to that point within the next 5 years.

Bruce also went into some detail on AFL Canada and its relationship with AussieX, a company which specialises in bringing various sports including Australian Football, cricket and netball to schools. It was founded by an ex player from the Ontario league who was the development officer for the OAFL, responsible for the school clinics. AussieX does work with local clubs to indentify local players to get them to the club scene, with some successes.

AFL Canada attended the very first International Cup in 2002, and are looking forward to next years after the disappointment of the 2011 edition. Their best finish has been 5th at the 2008 Cup. Bruce says their losses at the cup have been close ones, and the Canadians are better than the results suggest.

If you want to be involved in footy in Canada, you should consult the website at www.aflcanada.com.

You can hear more of the interview, including answers to some questions asked after the Ontario interview here or on youtube.
 
National tournaments are obviously logistically and financially problematical.
I've often thought an annual East Vs West game or OAFL premier VS NWPFL would be viable.
Similarly The USAFL could have a national league by having the various league premiers play off.
Not really important but it could help with sponsorhip and promotion etc.
 
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National tournaments are obviously logistically and financially problematical.
I've often thought an annual East Vs West game or OAFL premier VS NWPFL would be viable.
Similarly The USAFL could have a national league by having the various league premiers play off.
Not really important but it could help with sponsorhip and promotion etc.

They could, but its a similar problem to getting origin going here, the OAFL already has a lot of games, and they really dont want to add to the burden.
 

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My point was directly from the interviews with both OAFL Development and the AFL Canada President, but hey you make up your own views.

Did they say that having an East Vs West game was similar to getting a S.O.O game here.?

Did they say that they have a lot of games. Exactly how many games in an OAFL season?

I did acknowledge and I do understand the financial pressures that exist but I am talking about one extra game.

I'm asking the questions so I wont be criticised for mispresenting or embellishing in the future
so indeed people can take what I say as gospel.
 
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So I'm assuming you put the qualitative statement that the (12 game) season is too long?
A 12 game season too long ?

Thats in the canada article. Its not just the length but the way its structured.

Bruce says they want to have a mens nationals but with Ontario having a very structured and full season, its hard for them to commit to an additional nationals with flights and other costs involved

At the end of the day, thats how they feel. You should notify them of the view that they arent trying hard enough, Im sure they'll appreciate it.
 
Thats in the canada article. Its not just the length but the way its structured.

Again, acknowleding the financial commitment and having a 12 game season, my point was ONE extra game being an East Vs West game might be achieveable as against much more costly nationals program which whilst would be nice would obviously be a financial encumbrance.

At the end of the day, thats how they feel. You should notify them of the view that they arent trying hard enough, Im sure they'll appreciate it.

It's not the end of the day and it'not how I feel and I have never said anything like that.
What is your view and what is fact seems to be confused at times
so it would be nice to have a clear view.
 
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Again, acknowleding the financial commitment and having a 12 game season, my point was ONE extra game being an East Vs West game might be achieveable as against much more costly nationals program which whilst would be nice would obviously be a financial encumbrance.

It's not the end of the day and it'not how I feel and I have never said anything like that.
What is your view and what is fact seems to be confused at times
so it would be nice to have a clear view.

Nothing in the article - or indeed anything in this series of articles - is "my view" - everything is taken directly from the interviews and the comments made by the interviewees themselves. If anything, I have deliberately not expressed an opinion of my own in these. If you'd actually listened to them you'd actually know that. And really? you're going to pick me over on "at the end of the day".

Dont bother responding. Im ignoring you as of now.
 

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All you had to do was listen instead of carrying on like id made it up

I was querying your interpretation of the interview as I don't have sufficient quality internet for replay,
so I'm relying on your text for information. I know you know what you mean but doesn't mean statements always across as intended and I just wanted to be clear.
By Australian standards a 12 game season is not long but by international standards it's very very good.
Discounting the financial imposition, one East Vs West game might be of benefit for Canada against the USA or in the IC. A full blown nationals would cost a hell of a lot more and would be mostly for "show".
Maybe good for attracting some sponsorship but not in comparisson to the costs.
 
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It was a great year for BC Footy, with the league expanding to five teams (The Cougars entered two teams) and several players representing Canada at the International Cup. Rumours abound of a sixth team joining for next year..
 

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