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Naw, that's so cute that you think the gold coast is hot and humid.
Cool and dry is how we people from Tully would describe it.
We've just moved down to brisbane relatively recently and listening to people complain about this "heat and humidity" is like Canadians having an giggle at Canberrans talking about cold.
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Might be just Beveridge bringing out the broom to sweep the joint clean....Seem to recall Clarko kicking Brereton off the training track early doors.
Often-times old stagers & their egos can more get in the way rather than being helpful.
Never underestimate culture... These clubs have lacked culture for half a century.
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It was Greg Denham who said it!
http://www.sen.com.au/news/denham-hawks-have-no-weaknesses-only-genuine-vic-contender
http://www.sen.com.au/news/denham-hawks-have-no-weaknesses-only-genuine-vic-contender
Haha ... Fair call compared to Tully .. Nice & warm up there!
... Hope you are enjoying the Goldie mate!!
The Boyd Salary will ruin the dogs. What will happen when their other young stars want a slice?
The dogs were going to get 2 first rounders for Griffin 4 and 6 from Memory. They should have bundled them together for pick 1 and grabbed Mccartin, and not sacrificed their salary.
The dogs were going to get 2 first rounders for Griffin 4 and 6 from Memory. They should have bundled them together for pick 1 and grabbed Mccartin, and not sacrificed their salary.
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If you like mild & moss growing on everything.
Great 2008
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Yep Melbourne need to do the same. Gary Lyon is a media personality with a big mouth. The day Clarko kicked Brereton off the training track was the day I believed the club was moving forward again. (Too many cooks and all that). Hope Beveridge does well. Out of all the clubs I would love the Dogs to win a flag in the near future.
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Denham and Patrick Smith both spout sensationalist rubbish. Shock jocks with big egos and very little footy insights. True of most journos but both below par.
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Silly thing to say, who thought at the end of 2004 we would be saluting 4 years later? A lot can change. Who would have thought late in 2011 Port Adelaide would be a kick off a GF 3 years on?
I saw an article in our paper yesterday saying Trigg is very impressed by Malthouse. There was an image depicting Trigg with that dumb look on his face, and that annoying tough guy pose that Malthouse bungs on. I thought to myself, "Carlton's in good hands" .... then a had a good chuckle to myself 
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You mean a Monfrees dive away from the GF.
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I tend to agree with him. Adjustment made.
Everyone bangs on about GWS list and the Suns list and presumes they will each playoff for the flag in the next 8 years.
There are a lot of Melbourne teams that are in the mix for the next 2-3 years -Hawks, Kangaroos, Cats and dare I say it even the Tigers with some injury luck and a couple of quality free agents and they can win a flag or two.
Port and Sydney have assembled great lists and have the hurt from getting so close and they will be driven more internally than any of us know.
All the talk of the Hawks list and 3 peats in the media is complete and utter BS. So many questions still on us about this year ahead that I am looking forward to seeing it all unfold...
Can our ageing midfield stars have enough energy and enthusiasm to go again after getting us to the final 4 in the past 4 years....(Not just the first 5 or 6 rounds but a long grinding season is bloody hard work)
Can our coaching group manage our injuries and keep injecting new enthusiasm into our side at regular intervals to keep everyone hungry and mentally fresh all year?
Can Mcevoy develop into an A Grade ruck is massive for us over the next 6-7 years as a club?
How do we keep the likes of Litherland (I love this kid) enthusiastic starting at Box Hill when he would be playing in every other teams backline?
Is our list talented on paper......Absolutely. Could we win another flag.......Absolutely. Are others sides improving.....Absolutely. Do we need a stack of things to line up for us to be a chance to 3peat.......Absolutely.
Bring it on.
There are a lot of Melbourne teams that are in the mix for the next 2-3 years -Hawks, Kangaroos, Cats and dare I say it even the Tigers with some injury luck and a couple of quality free agents and they can win a flag or two.
Port and Sydney have assembled great lists and have the hurt from getting so close and they will be driven more internally than any of us know.
All the talk of the Hawks list and 3 peats in the media is complete and utter BS. So many questions still on us about this year ahead that I am looking forward to seeing it all unfold...
Can our ageing midfield stars have enough energy and enthusiasm to go again after getting us to the final 4 in the past 4 years....(Not just the first 5 or 6 rounds but a long grinding season is bloody hard work)
Can our coaching group manage our injuries and keep injecting new enthusiasm into our side at regular intervals to keep everyone hungry and mentally fresh all year?
Can Mcevoy develop into an A Grade ruck is massive for us over the next 6-7 years as a club?
How do we keep the likes of Litherland (I love this kid) enthusiastic starting at Box Hill when he would be playing in every other teams backline?
Is our list talented on paper......Absolutely. Could we win another flag.......Absolutely. Are others sides improving.....Absolutely. Do we need a stack of things to line up for us to be a chance to 3peat.......Absolutely.
Bring it on.
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Agreed, but ours was pretty rank too before Clarko strolled in and shook things up.
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Anyone who makes confident predictions about what's happening in AFL 10 years from now is an idiot.
If someone had come to me in 05 and said we'd make 4 Grand Finals in the next decade, I would have told them to get stuffed.
If someone had come to me in 05 and said we'd make 4 Grand Finals in the next decade, I would have told them to get stuffed.
I would have said, you beauty!
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You all need to place more value on culture and history! GC and GWS have none of that, they need to get there first, experience it and win on the biggest days in September before we can start to talk about them being powers.
Someone earlier said the heat sorts the men out from the kids, September is the only true measuring stick.
Someone earlier said the heat sorts the men out from the kids, September is the only true measuring stick.
Not that I disagree entirely but Hawthorn History pre 1960s was not exactly a story of success!
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My post was a little abrupt, but I think you understand what I am saying. Although circumstances are very different it did take our footy club 40 odd years to start to be relevant, now I am not placing those time frames on GC or GWS but it still plays a huge part. The problem with putting all this talent together when the majority are the same age is that we have a bunch of big fish coming together and are expected to be little fish apart of the same team. Who are these kids role models? Gary Ablett, great footballer seems a decent captain but does he lead as well the Selwoods, Browns, Watsons ( who I think is a great captain) and Hodge? Who does GWS have? They have Callan Ward! Good footballer but gee, is he expected to create a winning culture and lead kids when himself came from a rabble footy club!
Being talented juniors and being individually brilliant does not transcend into team success and a winning culture, the walls those kids do their weights in and have their meetings in, do they have the same air of history and culture?
I've been overseas and had some tours of the Staples centre, lambeau field as well Old Trafford and St.James park and you can literally feel the history of the place, you look around and see the pictures of legends everywhere and you can just imagine how much pride you would have representing such organisations. This is the key reason as to why the struggles of GWS and GC will be long and hard and very real, now they may just have the talent and leadership to prove me wrong but I still feel we are a while away from any threatening dominance.
I was going to say it's a stupid call - and that you can't predict what will happen in the next 10 years. Except in hindsight, it's probably a fair call.
First, we have outstanding depth and should dominate Victorian clubs in next few years. Secondly, GWS and Gold Coast have extraordinary developing talent. It's not outlandish to say that, from 2020 to 2025, GWS and Gold Coast will share a few flags.
BTW, if you were in charge of the Bullies, locked into a losing cycle, and desperately looking for a way to retain your supporter base, and generate some excitement and a winning formula, recruiting Boyd is probably a master stroke. Admittedly there's a risk factor - but this is their big chance - they only got him because they had a marquee player to trade - and could never have negotiated a trade for an established player like, say, Franklin. What else can you do? Just keep on winning 6 to 10 games a year for the next decade until you go broke. Good luck to them.
We had a high risk trade a few years ago which angered the hell out of our supporters (petitions to the board, tearing up memberships etc). We gave up Croad and McPharlin for the no. 1 draft pick and we weren't nearly as desperate as the Bullies. If that decision had gone to a members vote, Hodge wouldn't be our captain and wouldn't have won 2 Norm Smiths in premiership years.
Let boldness by my friend!
First, we have outstanding depth and should dominate Victorian clubs in next few years. Secondly, GWS and Gold Coast have extraordinary developing talent. It's not outlandish to say that, from 2020 to 2025, GWS and Gold Coast will share a few flags.
BTW, if you were in charge of the Bullies, locked into a losing cycle, and desperately looking for a way to retain your supporter base, and generate some excitement and a winning formula, recruiting Boyd is probably a master stroke. Admittedly there's a risk factor - but this is their big chance - they only got him because they had a marquee player to trade - and could never have negotiated a trade for an established player like, say, Franklin. What else can you do? Just keep on winning 6 to 10 games a year for the next decade until you go broke. Good luck to them.
We had a high risk trade a few years ago which angered the hell out of our supporters (petitions to the board, tearing up memberships etc). We gave up Croad and McPharlin for the no. 1 draft pick and we weren't nearly as desperate as the Bullies. If that decision had gone to a members vote, Hodge wouldn't be our captain and wouldn't have won 2 Norm Smiths in premiership years.
Let boldness by my friend!
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You list illustrates again how BS the non-vic whinging over the unfair advantage of the MCG for grand finals.
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