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Do most people not commit crime because they primarily respect the law, or because they primarily respect the right to life and property of other individuals?
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It is more fear for me
Spent my childhood being bullied both at school and home
The possibility of returning to that situation via prison after the work I've put in to build a life is enough to keep me on the straight and narrow
Spent my childhood being bullied both at school and home
The possibility of returning to that situation via prison after the work I've put in to build a life is enough to keep me on the straight and narrow
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Edit: Please answer in relation to your personal beliefs and not on how you perceive the law and respect in relation to others.
What is your motivation?
What is your motivation?
Respect for others primarily, but there's going to be some of both for most people. Things like speeding on what appears to be an empty road or the like is going to be more likely to fall in something not done as you worry the coppers have a speed camera behind a tree, rather than worrying about hurting people that aren't about.
when you say property, are you talking about tangible goods, land acquisition, or both?
Owning land is theft, violent and abhorent - It is almost the single root for all forms of financial inequality --
Owning land is theft, violent and abhorent - It is almost the single root for all forms of financial inequality --
Depends what you mean by crime. Any infringement of the law? I don't speed on the freeway because I don't want to get caught, likewise there are a couple of times I've wanted to take a swing at a guy but I've held back for fear of being up on assault charges.
Mostly though, it's about respect for other people. Perhaps naively I work under the assumption that society is mostly made up of intelligent, well-meaning people who pretty much want to collectively get on with their lives without getting in each other's way. It engenders a sense of goodwill towards strangers that means I mostly don't have any desire to take advantage of them.
Mostly though, it's about respect for other people. Perhaps naively I work under the assumption that society is mostly made up of intelligent, well-meaning people who pretty much want to collectively get on with their lives without getting in each other's way. It engenders a sense of goodwill towards strangers that means I mostly don't have any desire to take advantage of them.
That is the problem with threads like these, they get wrecked by trolls and cranks.
The motivation for many revolves around the chances of getting caught. See London riots when people thought they had little chance of getting caught. It was a free for all.
That's rather cheap to just claim 'troll' in order to ignore something you don't happen to agree with -
The interesting thing that grabbed my attention about the recent London riots, rather than the rampant property damage and civil disobedience, was the phenomenon of camera phones being operated by every 2nd or 3rd person -
The interesting thing that grabbed my attention about the recent London riots, rather than the rampant property damage and civil disobedience, was the phenomenon of camera phones being operated by every 2nd or 3rd person -
Supposedly blackberry messenger is the business as police cant intercept it which I believe is why some ME countries tried to curtail it.
Another example of people engaging in crime where they dont believe they will get caught is music pirating. Many people have stuff all respect for the property of others. Unfortunately in many cases nor does the law ie non sentences handed out to burglars etc.
Another example of people engaging in crime where they dont believe they will get caught is music pirating. Many people have stuff all respect for the property of others. Unfortunately in many cases nor does the law ie non sentences handed out to burglars etc.
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Music piracy only hurts those who have a commercial interest in the manufacturing and commodification of artistic and cultural expression. To demonise those who refuse to be blackmailed into opening their wallets to major recording labels as criminals is a false dichotomy.
Careful, you'll give meds an aneurysm.
My primary motivation is to stop the government stealing what I already have and what I will have in the future. They are the biggest thieves out there.
The sociological theory of labelling is an interesting one. Basically if someone is labelled deviant in excess that accept this and therefore live up to this. It has merit to an extent I think. I mean if your a bloke, think back to when you were at school. If you were labelled negatively in a deviant way you acted up to it, no doubt.
I think people stay along the straight and narrow as a result of the law more than you'd like to think. There's just a lack of respect in society. I'm not convinced it's solely socialisation, either.
I think to some extent, the law also gives people the sense of security to act in good faith with other people.
e.g. I don't steal from you because I'm confident you won't steal from me - if not because you think it's wrong, because you are afraid of the consequences of being caught.
A sad and all too common sight in modern society. Upon witnessing a person faint or suffer an accident, more people reach for a camera rather than to lend a hand.
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When record companies and those that on sell music download partake in price fixing on a massive scale and get away with then I have no issue with people stealing it. iTunes for starters needs to be fined in the tens of millions to get them to stop price fixing, then i might change my opinion until then, Go Piracy.
Apparently during that Colorado shooting people were sending emergency messages on Twitter rather than calling the police
I pretty much am aligned with Caesar on this. I would go with option A. I tend to believe most people are good and I try to respect the individual.
Then what incentive is there for people to produce original works/products if their intellectual property is not protected?
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