Pick 30 - Mason Shaw

North should be banned from taking our players in the mini draft....

hoping for

Shaw - Magpies
Wines - Not north, centrals or norwood
Clurey - As above

If we get Jurrah I think we should get him at the Magies, and keep him as close to the club as possible.

That's fine. But would you rather a second ruck to shaw?

Westhoff is what makes our forward structure tricky. I wouldn't mind if we played Schulz/Butch/Shaw in the forward line, even with two rucks. But Westhoff is that spanner in the works... is he now a utility and we could play him in a link up role?

I want to see Westhoff and Monfries floating around the half forward line and delivering to Schulz (eventually Shaw when Schulz retires, probably after jumping in front of a truck because he saw a football on the road) and Butcher, with a crumber at their feet. The crumber is the question. Gray and Wingard can do it, but it's a waste of their talent. Hitchcock has the smarts, but we all know about his faults. Neade is the great unknown.

Westhoff in form is a match winner. Hope hinkley gives him a spark.

Sounds like you friended every port supporter on FB I got one too.

If by spark you mean 15 double whoppers from hungry jacks Im all for it.

You wanna make him fat? Yeah nah

His build will be fine for a half forward or winger. Needs to get his work rate up

Will be wearing #22.

I guess it becomes do we turn Shaw into a very good fwd and a handy ruckman or do we try and make Lobbe/Redden/Renouf into very good ruckmen and handy fwds...

As for Westhoff I think he just needs a position. He was playing 3-4 positions a game at times last year. Unless your Chad Circa 2004-8 no one can do that successfully.

Edit: Also as someone made a mention to earlier compare Westhoff to Dawes... If Westhoff was a gorilla looking person like Dawes would we be treating him differently even though in terms of contested marking Westhoff is as good if not better. And his agility and skills are far better... However would a club want to offer pick 20 for him?

I would prefer Neade at the Magpies.
If he goes to North Adelaide or Souths

Insult to Westhoff. Westhoff kicked 28 goals in 22 games playing just about every position on the park for a bottom 5 team, Dawes kicked 20 goals in 23 games playing as a key forward and very occasional ruckman for a top 4 team. Anybody who rates Dawes as equal or better to Westhoff needs to watch Moneyball and start rating players on what they actually do rather than what they look like they should be able to do.

Every 5th week says hi.

Thats pretty much my point... Melbourne would never have offered pick 20 for Westhoff... However if he looked like Dawes people might think differently. Just because he has shaggy hair and looks laconic on the field I think undermines what we think of his actual output. I kinda think of him as an AFL version of Berbatov...

Well, this is Melbourne we're talking about. They probably would've offered pick 4 for Westhoff if we'd asked nicely.

http://www.fiveaa.com.au/audio_mason-shaw-new-power-recruit_105948?s=22

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Ya, Westhoff has to be the most unfairly-maligned player in history.

As a pick 70-odd in the era of uberscientific ins and outs of a bilby's bunghole drafts and recruiting we could've done a shitload worse.

We did, by drafting his brother.

At pick 33

I'd love to know if Matthew was any other recruiter's big board, let alone tipped to go late second/early third round.

Reality is there wasn't much left on the board after Matthew (we took Marlon before Levi), but bloody hell.

I remember one of the Gowans (perhaps both) saying he was more talented than Justin.

In fairness, as was mentioned it was a very thin draft that year.

I'm trying to work out who Shaw looks like - apart from the actual Tippett comparison - Mason looks a little like Earl Spalding and Jonathon Ross.

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