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Happy Daze

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Most of this has to do with live poker - especially tournaments.

1. Players who take too much time over decisions. I know players who will take up to a minute to tank-fold preflop. Or limp then tank fold to a raise with not many big blinds behind. In most live tournaments the blind structures are very rapid in terms of the number of hands played an orbit. It's probably THE rudest thing anyone can do in live tournament poker.

2. Limped pots. As in there is an open limper UTG then 5 callers. If you are in late position there is almost no point in raising because you know just about all of those players will call any sort of raise hoping to donk out.

3. Players who complain about raising. This is tied to the point above - some players actually think its rude to raise so basically we are talking about players who have NFI about how the game is played.

4. Sunglasses - players wearing them. It does not make you look like a professional. In fact the exact opposite.

5. Online - players berating other players in the chat box, especially when they are at the wrong end of a bad beat. "OMG how could you shove there! You are the biggest *" etc (I could shove there because I'm chipped down and the blinds add a big bit to my stack, it was blind on blind and you can only call with a semi-decent hand and my 10 5 suited is still 37% or so against your AK off, so that's how much you will lose on average vs my hand etc)

Any others to add to the list above?
 
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Severely disagree about 2) because there is nothing a love more then either taking down $25 of free money at 2/5 with a raise, or playing against only one or two people with a better hand vs their range in position with smaller SPRs, allowing me to never make a big mistake by going to the felt with either a TPTK or overpair hand on most boards.

Provided you are playing the "raise Xbb's + 1 per limper" raising sizing then players limping is a sign of a great game.

The rest I agree with though I do take a lot of schadenfreude (sp?) about people complaining about bad beats or people raising their limps.
 

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I don't get easily annoyed at a poker table.

Couple of things that do annoy me though:
* incompetent and/or slow dealers
* dealers socialising with regs instead of dealing a quick, efficient game
* regs soft-playing each other
* regs abusing fish
* poker buzz-words
* regs (especially at crown 2/3) constantly switching tables and cutting down to $2/300 after when 200bb+
* floor seemingly allowing this to happen without incident.
 

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Smokers. I hate you all. You stink.

Knobs that needlessly construct their stack 60-80+ chips high.
 

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Severely disagree about 2) because there is nothing a love more then either taking down $25 of free money at 2/5 with a raise, or playing against only one or two people with a better hand vs their range in position with smaller SPRs, allowing me to never make a big mistake by going to the felt with either a TPTK or overpair hand on most boards.

Provided you are playing the "raise Xbb's + 1 per limper" raising sizing then players limping is a sign of a great game.

The rest I agree with though I do take a lot of schadenfreude (sp?) about people complaining about bad beats or people raising their limps.

Was more talking about tournament poker with 2 - not cash. I've seen tournament poker plays call a raise after limping in with 60% of their stack with hands like K,10,/J,9 etc. There are a lot of bad cash game players but the tournament players as a rule are just insanely bad.
 

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I don't get easily annoyed at a poker table.

Couple of things that do annoy me though:
* incompetent and/or slow dealers
* dealers socialising with regs instead of dealing a quick, efficient game
* regs soft-playing each other
* regs abusing fish
* poker buzz-words
* regs (especially at crown 2/3) constantly switching tables and cutting down to $2/300 after when 200bb+
* floor seemingly allowing this to happen without incident.

Ratholing is something I despise in cash games - and yes I've seen it when playing at Crown and its one of the reasons (main reason I play rarely for cash at the Casinos is the variance - at least online you get a stack of hands in and can multi-table).
 

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Ratholing is something I despise in cash games - and yes I've seen it when playing at Crown
And you just ignored it? Once years ago I went ballistic on an Asian woman who did it during a hand. She sneakily went south on the turn before shoving her remaining stack all-in against me. I told the dealer immediately and called the floor. Of course she said she didn't know it wasn't allowed.
 

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And you just ignored it? Once years ago I went ballistic on an Asian woman who did it during a hand. She sneakily went south on the turn before shoving her remaining stack all-in against me. I told the dealer immediately and called the floor. Of course she said she didn't know it wasn't allowed.

This was when the Millions Main Event was on earlier this year - was a bit of a s**t-fight wherever you went. I just didn't bother.
 

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I had a reverse rathole on me recently I guess

I stack an infamous 2/5 fish in a standard hand, hes left with roughly $200ish in red chips, next hand is dealt and I get something like KJ and fish opens to $80 or something. KJ is miles ahead so I look to finish the job and 3bet to $220 from LP with weak players behind. I then notice a 1k chip sitting behind his stack and question it

"yeah I'm in for $500" he says when I glance at it. I'm not completely happy but hes a raging tilt monkey and KJ still smashes him here. He ships it as expected and I call, hes got KK ofc and I am pretty sure the 1k only found its way out of his pocket after he saw the KK

I didnt make a big deal out of it. For one I called it off knowing it was the full $500, though if I knew preflop not sure whether I wouldve made the 3bet or not, but I mightve anyway
 
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Agree with the old people mentality.

The going south/north issue is a big one. There is one player at Burswood, who I wont name but if anyone wants to PM for the details can, who was banned for 12 months for consistantly doing this during pots. He has come back, yet continues to sit in seats 1 and 10 where he is more "secretative" to the table. He regularly wants to have a pile of red chips to aid this going north and south during hands.

I really hope he is permanently banned sometime soon. He has zero likeable traits as a person and as a fellow gambler, abusing fish, shortstacking, plays ok, slowing down the game (despite being one of the players complaining about hand-rates) and abusing dealers. He is also old and a nit, so a solid 0/6 as a fellow pro.
 
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Agree with the old people mentality.

The going south/north issue is a big one. There is one player at Burswood, who I wont name but if anyone wants to PM for the details can, who was banned for 12 months for consistantly doing this during pots. He has come back, yet continues to sit in seats 1 and 10 where he is more "secretative" to the table. He regularly wants to have a pile of red chips to aid this going north and south during hands.

I really hope he is permanently banned sometime soon. He has zero likeable traits as a person and as a fellow gambler, abusing fish, shortstacking, plays ok, slowing down the game (despite being one of the players complaining about hand-rates) and abusing dealers. He is also old and a nit, so a solid 0/6 as a fellow pro.

noticed him back the other day - hasn't been missed

cant believe he is positioning himself to be doing the same s**t again
 
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noticed him back the other day - hasn't been missed

cant believe he is positioning himself to be doing the same s**t again

Agreed, not exactly sure how he is allowed to keep sitting in seats 1 or 10

Also, if you see him "scrambling" his chips ask him to straighten them up ASAP, or call the door.

Finally, I am unsure exactly who you are in the casino, or if you know who I am, but either way anyone who is an enemy of the cheating bastard is a friend of mine :)
 

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Cos I can be a right c***, if I knew of this and saw him sit down at my table, I'd make a scene and alert the whole table of his traits.
 
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Agreed, not exactly sure how he is allowed to keep sitting in seats 1 or 10

Also, if you see him "scrambling" his chips ask him to straighten them up ASAP, or call the door.

Finally, I am unsure exactly who you are in the casino, or if you know who I am, but either way anyone who is an enemy of the cheating bastard is a friend of mine :)

haha cheers - i dont play much cash anymore mainly tournaments and i really only get down every wednesday and the occassional monday now

i have too many other commitments.

wednesdays donkaments are easy pickings and good for a laugh with mates - final tabled last wednesday

monday night series is decent - though i bubbled the last series after being in the top 2 or 3 for the first 7 weeks and the last 3 weeks managed to capitulate to 11th

might play the western poker champs - though the main events are always at s**t times for me

our ratholing mate just rubs me up the wrong way - cant even stand the sight of him
 

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Agree with the old people mentality.

The going south/north issue is a big one. There is one player at Burswood, who I wont name but if anyone wants to PM for the details can, who was banned for 12 months for consistantly doing this during pots. He has come back, yet continues to sit in seats 1 and 10 where he is more "secretative" to the table. He regularly wants to have a pile of red chips to aid this going north and south during hands.

I really hope he is permanently banned sometime soon. He has zero likeable traits as a person and as a fellow gambler, abusing fish, shortstacking, plays ok, slowing down the game (despite being one of the players complaining about hand-rates) and abusing dealers. He is also old and a nit, so a solid 0/6 as a fellow pro.

What do you mean by going south/north Ash?
 

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Taking chips off the table ie u play 200 double up. If you were to take a black chip off your stack you'd be going south by 100.

Going north would be the opposite ie having a fish that's deep on your right and adding a black chip to your stack (assuming you're already in for the table max)

Doing this in hands is scummy as.

I've gone north on occasion but never during a hand.
 

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Was more talking about tournament poker with 2 - not cash. I've seen tournament poker plays call a raise after limping in with 60% of their stack with hands like K,10,/J,9 etc. There are a lot of bad cash game players but the tournament players as a rule are just insanely bad.

Jeesus, and you don't like these players why exactly?
 
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