Opinion Poll - Who do we select with Pick 10 in the 2014 AFL National Draft?
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Watching that video of him, his fend offs are almost Dustin Martin like! I know we need KPD but Cockatoo would make going to the footy very exciting I reckon. He "could" turn out to be something special .
If we do go him the club should look at rookie listing someone like Reilly O'Brien
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Standing 201cm, O'Brien was tried all over the ground for the Cannons before settling at centre half-back. The 19-year-old played one game for Vic Metro in 2013 before putting 7kg on his frame to fill out into a more complete package this year. He started the season for Calder as a key forward, spent time in the ruck, but showed his best work in the back half. Although his kicking needs a little work, he has good speed and endurance for his size. Finished secondary school with a tertiary entrance score of 99.6.
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But we didn't decide to trade up in the draft yesterday or the day before. We've got no idea who will and won't be available at our pick now. If there was one or two players we were really keen on then trading up was smart because it made it less likely that they would be taken before us, regardless of where they're rated now.
You don't, that's my caveat.
But going on the info at hand that's my opinion.
If no clubs would have taken him before 14, then its a bad decision, if a club would have between 11 and 14 then its a good decision.
Calm down.
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Very results oriented. We didn't have perfect knowledge of what was going to happen. It's unlikely we moved up just to try to get 1 particular player. More likely is that there were a small number we were very keen on and didn't want to miss out on all of them which was a chance if we stayed at 14. Moving up significantly reduced that chance. That's a smart decision whether or not in the end a particular player would've actually got to 14.
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Does anybody know whether any of our delisted players (Schroder, Brown, Stringer, etc) have nominated for the draft and whether any of them are likely to be picked up?
All this angst about how we must be getting someone who wasn't there at 14 to justify... We cost ourselves 35 to 47, keep that in mind. No one is giving us a list of players who would be available at 35 who won't be at 47.
If it gives us greater choice/control then great.
Giving up pick 21 is the major point IMO.
If it gives us greater choice/control then great.
Giving up pick 21 is the major point IMO.
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certainly would love to get Cockatoo. I'm a little skeptical though when 'footy experts' begin validating reasons as to why Geelong may be keen. One of the main factors is this aboriginal tag, we lose Varcoe & Christensen so they presume we will replace those players with another one but when you actually look a little closer at our list, we have Murdoch, Smedts and now Blease who are all outside types and all play a similar role that Varcoe did for us.
Christensen is not like Cockatoo, Bundy played more like Chapman so that could see Wells lean very closely toward drafting in another full-time midfielder or perhaps a key defender which appears to be very much our no.1 priority (short-term).
Christensen is not like Cockatoo, Bundy played more like Chapman so that could see Wells lean very closely toward drafting in another full-time midfielder or perhaps a key defender which appears to be very much our no.1 priority (short-term).
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I'm really hopeful since they've mentioned the possibility of Cockatoo, because I've been singing his praises on here with little response, although there's been a couple with the vision of what this guy could be.
I'd be more than happy if we traded out or found a CHB later if we snared the Cocky! what I like about him is he's a very strong body even now.
You can start liking him again. We on the other hand have thought that O'Rourke has been a squib for a good month at least
You can start liking him again. We on the other hand have thought that O'Rourke has been a squib for a good month at least
Don't get me started on Blease!
I think his talent is all there to see meto , but it would be one hell of a gutsy pick by Wells. Could he really go that far out on a limb
apart from all this preshow guff, when is the actual draft today and is that on afl live or just this mind numbing preshow drivel?
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Is it out on a limb though? From all reports he was very highly rated coming into the season. Then when he came back from injury he absolutely dominated the one game he played and smashed the combine. Sure it's not a lot to go on but he showed more in that game and at the combine than most players out there.
IMO , moving up to 10 just gives us a look at 4 extra players whether we have had 1 specifically in mind or not. Cost 12 spots later in the draft when its far more role specific , we may get the player we would like anyway.
The "he would not be taken" whether its Durdin or Ca2 , its all unknown as all we really know with any sort of certainty is the first 4 picks. Marchbank for instance , if we take him at 10 plenty could say we would have got him at 14 yet several phantoms now say he goes inside 10.
Im refusing to get to emotionally attached to one pick , we will get someone good and in the end the will bring their own set of talents .
Ca2 would give us a player with XXXXX factor , does that equal a 200 game player. No one coud say that about anyone ( check with Mr Menzel) , is he the percentage pick? No but few would have his upside and game winning ability.
The "he would not be taken" whether its Durdin or Ca2 , its all unknown as all we really know with any sort of certainty is the first 4 picks. Marchbank for instance , if we take him at 10 plenty could say we would have got him at 14 yet several phantoms now say he goes inside 10.
Im refusing to get to emotionally attached to one pick , we will get someone good and in the end the will bring their own set of talents .
Ca2 would give us a player with XXXXX factor , does that equal a 200 game player. No one coud say that about anyone ( check with Mr Menzel) , is he the percentage pick? No but few would have his upside and game winning ability.
I also think it's quite a risky move to use our first top 10 pick in almost a decade based on a player based on 1 single game (and some athletic results).
High risk High reward selection.
Unlike some here, I'm worried how exposed we will be in 2016/17 against key forwards when Lonergan retires.
High risk High reward selection.
Unlike some here, I'm worried how exposed we will be in 2016/17 against key forwards when Lonergan retires.
Its out on the limb when you only have limited data , IMO. How does his data Lever , he hasn't played either. Lever was always rated top 20 , yet Ca2 was almost an over looked player till his GF day game and Combine.
Im not against it , just say it would rank up there in Wells pulling a Rabbit.
Im not as worried about replacements , I have consistently just wanted "Best". My feeling for a long time is we lack elite or enough of it compared to the lat list build. Ca2 could be ANYthing. Good or bad. Its The Crown Casino Melb Cup Two up pick of Wells career Id say...and if he does it I'l not be unhappy , rather Id be excited.
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I was really looking forward to today but it has been soured somewhat by the news of the death of Phillip Hughes
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-27/phil-hughes-dead/5919204
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-27/phil-hughes-dead/5919204
Just awful news. So very sad. RIP
Yes...too early , went doing something he loved , if only we could all do that.
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RE the Cockatoo rumours… I see a lot of Bille in those highlights… relying a lot in agility and pace to get out of trouble. Everyone is bigger and faster in the seniors. Not saying the kid can't play, nor is he no good…. but at 10? Not sold…
At 21… sure… oh wait….
Not at 10…
Go Catters
At 21… sure… oh wait….
Not at 10…
Go Catters
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Considering Petracca, Laverde and Brayshaw go beforehand, and we want their attributes of those three speed, power, and size then this guy combines them in an explosive package.
What I like is that kick down acceleration where he just gaps his opponent in the first metre or two, Good leap and mark as well.
Looking at his frame he's not far off already, but I get your point although we've taken some strange ones at P16, although I don't think he'd last till then.
Aside, yes that news on Phil was very sad.
Daz , I think if we went with your comparison Ca2 is far more explosive , his results at the Combine showed he has heap in a few disciplines , Billy was tops in agility (which has been such a weapon in juniors but has been a bear for him ...getting caught all the time).
If the club have done the full range of testing and find he ticks all the boxes.. . Compared to someone like Weller is he ready for AFL? Is he a hard worker? Relocation? etc. That would be more my things that would Id be liking to know.
Yep , and I also feel for the bowler. Sad all around
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