Scandal Rape charges dropped as Milne pleads Guilty to indecent assault.

[Donakebab]

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/r...milne-to-be-discontinued-20141106-11hmf5.html

Former St Kilda footballer Stephen Milne has formally had three rape charges discontinued.

But Milne has pleaded guilty to one count of indecent assault.

A mention of the case, which was to start this month as a trial, was held on Thursday morning in the County Court.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/r...milne-to-be-discontinued-20141106-11hmf5.html

 

[Tulip]

What is there to discuss, exactly. Sadly, nobody knows the truth but those involved - whether that's innocence or guilt.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

What's the difference between rape and indecent assault? (Genuine question)

 

[SterlingArcher]

What's the difference between rape and indecent assault? (Genuine question)

And why would 3 charges of rape become 1 of indecent assault?

Is this a 'deal' that has been struck?

 

[1061]

What's the difference between rape and indecent assault? (Genuine question)

Penetration!

He's now pleaded GUILTY so he is guilty and it wont go to trial he just has to be sentenced.
Big question I think is as this is a sexual matter will Milne be placed on the Sexual Offenders Registry or has his legal team worked out a deal as not having a clear police check would ruin his chances of working in AFL Circles ever again I would think.

 

[Adz]

Scandals and rumours board.

 

[The Filth]

What's the difference between rape and indecent assault? (Genuine question)

Sexual penetration.
Basically rape legally covers acts of sexual penetration.
Indecent assault covers all other forms of sexual acts without consent except for sexual penetration.

 

[rdhopkins2]

Stinks of a deal being done one would think?

 

[Engimal]

Sexual penetration.
Basically rape legally covers acts of sexual penetration.
Indecent assault covers all other forms of sexual acts without consent except for sexual penetration.

Doesn't that mean a false rape accusation was made if this was the outcome?

 

[Kram]

 

[Bluelegs]

Penetration!

He's now pleaded GUILTY so he is guilty and it wont go to trial he just has to be sentenced.
Big question I think is as this is a sexual matter will Milne be placed on the Sexual Offenders Registry or has his legal team worked out a deal as not having a clear police check would ruin his chances of working in AFL Circles ever again I would think.

Yeah because if he isnt put on the sex offenders registry no one will ever know this happened

 

[Bluelegs]

Doesn't that mean a false rape accusation was made if this was the outcome?

There are people who believe that you dont even need to be touched to be raped. Its not like the event never happened and shes making this up.

 

[pantskyle]

The glove partially fitted.

 

[RobbieK]

Doesn't that mean a false rape accusation was made if this was the outcome?

Possibly. Or, more likely, there were issues with the weight of evidence to convict on the more serious charges and as a result he is being prosecuted for a lesser charge with a greater chance of conviction.

 

[The Filth]

Doesn't that mean a false rape accusation was made if this was the outcome?

Something happened that night, but the evidence has been leaked and the investigation hampered and muddied. We will never know.

Milne has pleaded guilty to the lesser sexual assault offence of indecent assault. So he is guilty by law.
I wouldn't be blaming the victim of the assault just because the perpetrator is an AFL player.
If you are inferring that the victim is a liar then that is a disgusting slur and only compounds her distress.

 

[Donakebab]

Stinks of a deal being done one would think?

It doesn't "stink" of a deal being done, it is blatantly obvious that a deal has been done. Prosecutors clearly thought they would not be successful in convicting him for rape while Milne's lawyers thought he would go for the lesser charge regardless and it wasn't worth the risk of going to trial.

 

[ManOfClay]

Doesn't that mean a false rape accusation was made if this was the outcome?

Not-so-effectively, yes. But really it's a definite deal just to end it.

 

[Ant_]

What is there to discuss, exactly. Sadly, nobody knows the truth but those involved - whether that's innocence or guilt.

Pleading guilty is admittance of guilt.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

And why would 3 charges of rape become 1 of indecent assault?

Is this a 'deal' that has been struck?

The prosecutors mustn't think they'll get a conviction for rape

 

[onemancyclone]

The prosecutors mustn't think they'll get a conviction for rape

Or the defendant thinks they can.

 

[mottrain]

There is a difference between the two. Theoretically she could have not realised till after they ****ed it was Milne and he had touched her after she said no more. Hence no rapes were committed but this charge was.

 

[Engimal]

Possibly. Or, more likely, there were issues with the weight of evidence to convict on the more serious charges and as a result he is being prosecuted for a lesser charge with a greater chance of conviction.

Not-so-effectively, yes. But really it's a definite deal just to end it.

Fair enough.

 

[Donakebab]

Or the defendant thinks they can.

If the prosecution was confident of a conviction then a deal wouldn't have been tabled in the first place. They found middle ground.

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

Doesn't that mean a false rape accusation was made if this was the outcome?

If it was a false allegation and this was revealed to the Prosecuting Attorneys then all charges would have been dropped and Milne would have no conviction. The fact that he's still been charged with sexual assault says he had a case to answer to. The reasons for the deal can be many, and we may never know why. Blaming the victim is an old sport in rape cases, and a shameful one at that.

 

[Modified Dog]

They found middle ground.

That's what she said