He just needs to take his 1st option more. He seems to like to wait & see what the 2nd and 3rd options are like before dishing off... And often that's too late!
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He just needs to take his 1st option more. He seems to like to wait & see what the 2nd and 3rd options are like before dishing off... And often that's too late!
newcastlefalcon
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I have made some comments in bold on your observations above. Some additional of my own below.
Dixon hurt his ankle again - Rocket seemed to say it was a weekly thing. He needs to get this right because although he is an obvious talent, I don't know how the sort of money being touted about him from clubs like the Lions can be justified - games per season and number of times subbed is a real concern.
Sam Day - I have been a long time fan of Day and I thought that he showed his best touch this season in this game - pity the season is nearly over.
Kolo - I think he has been one of our standouts for the year, he has really stepped up. He didn't deliver the ball as well as he has throughout the season and maybe he is now being targeted by opposition scouts given his roles at the Suns.
Schade - as mentioned earlier has been one of the real beneficiaries of our injuries. Has played on some big opponents and has performed really well. Looking forward to his further development next year.
Final comment
I think this was another clear step forward for the Suns from our game against Freo where we just got nutted near the end. I think that the best part of the whole gave was our players seeing that they could match it with the high flyers in the league on effort rather than just on talent.
newcastlefalcon
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I think you are probably right in what you say, but I still prefer him up forward.
Steven May is all you need to say. Even though he has missed a few games he is still in the mix for All Australian with Tom McDonald for the 2nd KPD role.
After last night I can clearly picture our leadership team for next year - Ablett, Lynch, Rischatelli, Swallow, May, Prestia and add Miller & Kolo if you want to expose them to it early. Malceski doesn't deserve to be there based on this season alone and needs more time to work on his game.
Hall is off the delist list - always been his consistency that has been the worry, the last month has easily been the best stretch of games for the club and his ability to inject pace into the midfield and gives him the added flexibility and value to be both a small fwd who can impact the midfield in short bursts. Clayton needs to offer a 2yr deal now before it turns into a Levi Greenwood situation.
Matera played his best game for the year, following on from an improved effort last week. All due to work effort to push up and down the ground to be an option. Personally I don't think it saves him from the trade table based on his history and an overabundance of developing small fwds who have more ability to rotate into the mids (Miller, Garlett and Hall) but it certainly helps his career and our trade prospects (especially playing well against a WA team).
McKenzie out meant no passengers last night.
Glad I heard Malceski was sore otherwise I would be more concerned with some of his efforts last night.
Shaw and Harbrow played OK but I still have reservations about uncontested players who can't hit clear targets going forward (Shaw through the centre in the 3rd) or miss open goals (was Harbrow channeling his inner Stephen Milne in 2009 GF trying to dribble an open goal from 35m out). In clear contrast Boston and Glenn can play the same role but can hit targets, they just need to work on their tanks and running patterns so they can get on the end of more ball.
Miller was fantastic early so not surprised to hear he was hampered as he slowed down later in the game.
Schade and Lonergan are developing nicely.
Kolo was Kolo - ultra consistent for such a young player
Bennell has been great since he came back, so composed and clean. Hopefully he has flicked the switch and we can expect this week in and week out.
While Jack Martin has been out I have been admiring Jesse Hogan and thinking what if, forgetting how good Jack Martin is. First game back I see what Jack can do and I fall in love with him all over again, Jesse who?
Lynch is the best young forward in the game - may not have the natural gifts of a Cameron or Daniher but has superior work rate and leadership that give him the edge.
Nicholls is a competitor and is slowly adding more tricks, like providing more leading options when going forward. If other rucks walk we only need to looking for a fwd who can hold his own in the ruck, maybe Wright can fulfill that role going fwd.
Eade's ability to have more reliance on system and effort and less on individual brilliance will take us to the next level.
How much can I get for us to make the 8 next year - surely I get at least $4 for the 2nd bottom team.
After last night I can clearly picture our leadership team for next year - Ablett, Lynch, Rischatelli, Swallow, May, Prestia and add Miller & Kolo if you want to expose them to it early. Malceski doesn't deserve to be there based on this season alone and needs more time to work on his game.
Hall is off the delist list - always been his consistency that has been the worry, the last month has easily been the best stretch of games for the club and his ability to inject pace into the midfield and gives him the added flexibility and value to be both a small fwd who can impact the midfield in short bursts. Clayton needs to offer a 2yr deal now before it turns into a Levi Greenwood situation.
Matera played his best game for the year, following on from an improved effort last week. All due to work effort to push up and down the ground to be an option. Personally I don't think it saves him from the trade table based on his history and an overabundance of developing small fwds who have more ability to rotate into the mids (Miller, Garlett and Hall) but it certainly helps his career and our trade prospects (especially playing well against a WA team).
McKenzie out meant no passengers last night.
Glad I heard Malceski was sore otherwise I would be more concerned with some of his efforts last night.
Shaw and Harbrow played OK but I still have reservations about uncontested players who can't hit clear targets going forward (Shaw through the centre in the 3rd) or miss open goals (was Harbrow channeling his inner Stephen Milne in 2009 GF trying to dribble an open goal from 35m out). In clear contrast Boston and Glenn can play the same role but can hit targets, they just need to work on their tanks and running patterns so they can get on the end of more ball.
Miller was fantastic early so not surprised to hear he was hampered as he slowed down later in the game.
Schade and Lonergan are developing nicely.
Kolo was Kolo - ultra consistent for such a young player
Bennell has been great since he came back, so composed and clean. Hopefully he has flicked the switch and we can expect this week in and week out.
While Jack Martin has been out I have been admiring Jesse Hogan and thinking what if, forgetting how good Jack Martin is. First game back I see what Jack can do and I fall in love with him all over again, Jesse who?
Lynch is the best young forward in the game - may not have the natural gifts of a Cameron or Daniher but has superior work rate and leadership that give him the edge.
Nicholls is a competitor and is slowly adding more tricks, like providing more leading options when going forward. If other rucks walk we only need to looking for a fwd who can hold his own in the ruck, maybe Wright can fulfill that role going fwd.
Eade's ability to have more reliance on system and effort and less on individual brilliance will take us to the next level.
How much can I get for us to make the 8 next year - surely I get at least $4 for the 2nd bottom team.
newcastlefalcon
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I am going to do my Gerard Whateley impression now about the score review process.
If we have a score review system and one of the things we have to judge is whether a ball has gone over the line, how in all sanity can there not be a camera or cameras viewing the goal line along the line.
In racing they do not have the photo finish before or after the line, IT IS ON THE LINE!!!
Surely it is that simple.
If we have a score review system and one of the things we have to judge is whether a ball has gone over the line, how in all sanity can there not be a camera or cameras viewing the goal line along the line.
In racing they do not have the photo finish before or after the line, IT IS ON THE LINE!!!
Surely it is that simple.
Interestingly, the only other draw at Carrara also involved West Coast. Very similar situation played out in which a young Bears player marked the ball (about 35 out) late in the game and ended up kicking the goal to tie the score.
Just a thought on Luke Russell
Was super in the first half then faded badly
Not sure why
Was super in the first half then faded badly
Not sure why
Must admit i was worried about Shaw,. Had 1 touch to his nsme at halftime i think it was..
Think he must of copped a spray at halftime to end up as 1 of the better half dozen players
Russell played well I thought, should of had 2 goals if not for a dodgy goal umpire.
Everyone played their part last night in my opinion.
Let's take this into next week and get a big win over the Lions.
Everyone played their part last night in my opinion.
Let's take this into next week and get a big win over the Lions.
I think.. Glenn will stay on the rookie list another year..
Wont be upgraded like Saad
Looked good when he had it. Just didnt have it enough..
As for Saad the poor bloke carrying OP just let him rest..
He couldnt turn in the last qtr
We need him next year.
Wont be upgraded like Saad
Looked good when he had it. Just didnt have it enough..
As for Saad the poor bloke carrying OP just let him rest..
He couldnt turn in the last qtr
We need him next year.
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SUNS would have. we're still a relatively small forum, our activity usually doesn't warrant a separate thread for an autopsy. might look at doing them next season though.
SUNS would have. we're still a relatively small forum, our activity usually doesn't warrant a separate thread for an autopsy. might look at doing them next season though.
Maybe if we get 20k members.. Rather than 13k
in the end, i'm glad we got 2 points out of last night. i've gotten so sick of being close in games against good opponents, only to get rolled in the last quarter or lose by a few goals. seeing opposition supporters say stuff like "lets just take the win, forget that game and move on to next week" has gotten really annoying. a draw is a way better feeling than a loss! haha
also, the review system should not be in our game if we cannot put funding in to get some ******* good cameras. whatever the FPS is on the cameras they decide to use for the reviews, its simply not good enough for a professional sport. the cricket has numerous systems in place to review umpiring decisions, like hawkeye and hotspot, the nba, mlb, & epl all have state of the art score review systems suitable for multi-billion dollar sporting industries. the afl has just allowed reviews to take place, not actually implement any new technology to aid the reviews. sure, they've used the goal line cameras occasionally, but what's the point of only using them in certain stadiums? massive disadvantage to those who don't have them, like us last night with russell's non goal. the review has to go until increase the number of cameras and the quality of them to match the standard set by other big sporting leagues.
may was huge. body on body, i reckon he's one of the best KPD's in the comp. he's got such great body strength for a 23 year old. kept kennedy to 2 goals, when i think most of us were expecting him to kick another bag of 7/8 on us again. lots of great performers last night, will post again once i've watched the replay later today.
also, the review system should not be in our game if we cannot put funding in to get some ******* good cameras. whatever the FPS is on the cameras they decide to use for the reviews, its simply not good enough for a professional sport. the cricket has numerous systems in place to review umpiring decisions, like hawkeye and hotspot, the nba, mlb, & epl all have state of the art score review systems suitable for multi-billion dollar sporting industries. the afl has just allowed reviews to take place, not actually implement any new technology to aid the reviews. sure, they've used the goal line cameras occasionally, but what's the point of only using them in certain stadiums? massive disadvantage to those who don't have them, like us last night with russell's non goal. the review has to go until increase the number of cameras and the quality of them to match the standard set by other big sporting leagues.
may was huge. body on body, i reckon he's one of the best KPD's in the comp. he's got such great body strength for a 23 year old. kept kennedy to 2 goals, when i think most of us were expecting him to kick another bag of 7/8 on us again. lots of great performers last night, will post again once i've watched the replay later today.
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Our cheersquad is a ******* joke. Remove all of them and make it a GA area.
In other news, what a fantastic game!
Russell, Lonergan, Matera - all proved that they're not just B players. Our depth is becoming impressive.
Our pressure was spot on.
Holy * I love Rocket
Even if he is only good as an out and out mid they are pretty hard to find and we seem to be in need of them. I'm sure if that is the case we may have to look at having members of the fab 4 who would be better on a flank or pocket to split time between there and the midfield (e.g. Swallow off a back flank, Ablett on a forward flank, Jaeger on a wing coming back from injury) to give us a more balanced line up.
Seems similar with Glenn when his the main man at NEAFL ge gets his 25touches.. Comes to AFL plays not sure what he bloody played.. But couldnt get near it to save him
The NEAFL the Suns Achilles heel
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He hasn't had a great run with injury. I think his fitness is still not 100%. Nearly won the game with that kick that the umpire reviewed though
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* I hated that game so much but credit where credit is due, we came in expecting a win and you guys embarrassed us.
Hopefully that's the kind of game that helps us realise that you take no team for granted. Might be the game that gets us a flag.
Hopefully that's the kind of game that helps us realise that you take no team for granted. Might be the game that gets us a flag.
I wish you guys good luck, it would be great to see the cup go West again, but hurry up and get it before Ablett, Swallow, Prestia, Richitelli, O'Meara, Peter Wright and this years no2-3 pick come into our side and destroy the comp next year.
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I think the Eagles are well set up now for a tilt over the next 2-3 years, we drafted terrifically this past draft.
These injury years that * everything up sucks, look at us, we lost Brown and MacKenzie very early and got a makeshift defence. Suns will be keen for a strong preseason no doubt.
Pretty sure I was at that game. Young Queenslander Ray Windsor was the player. We took that draw as a win too
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