Redo the 2009 draft.

[Ambrosia]

Cunnington over Martin everyday of the week. Its very obvious Martin has no growth beyond what he has achieved thus far. Cunnington will get better.

What? I rate Cunnington really highly but Martin has far more potential.

 

[raymagoo]

Martin over cunnilingus any day please

 

[Pat_Footy]

Funny how things can change over a few years. Martin was rated at no 2 by lots of people and is now quite obvious that top 3 would be:-
1: FYFE
2: Cunnington or Gunston
3: Cunnington or Gunston.

Cunnington at 2/3?

This can't be serious. Cunnington isn't even top 15. He's been awful.

 

[Wild Bill]

Cunnington at 2/3?

This can't be serious. Cunnington isn't even top 15. He's been awful.

His stats this year have been huge - as good as any inside mid. Watch the game before making a terrible call like this.

 

[Pat_Footy]

His stats this year have been huge - as good as any inside mid. Watch the game before making a terrible call like this.

Such over-rating by North fans. Try watching another team play and you might see the other 2009 draftees surpassing Cunnington's ordinary performances.

 

[Wild Bill]

Such over-rating by North fans. Try watching another team play and you might see the other 2009 draftees surpassing Cunnington's ordinary performances.

So this year your understanding of how good he has been is better than the coaches? Coaches votes are a good indication on how a player is going.

Cunners and Libba are over rated - your understanding of the game is putrid.

 

[Pat_Footy]

So this year your understanding of how good he has been is better than the coaches? Coaches votes are a good indication on how a player is going.

Cunners and Libba are over rated - your understanding of the game is putrid.

You're a one-eyed supporter unfortunately.

 

[Wild Bill]

You're a one-eyed supporter unfortunately.

Looks like the coaches agree. What about Libba? Not a dogs fan.

Gee the eagles would be embarrassed looking at the 2009 draft - unfortunately.

 

[Patron]

Looks like the coaches agree. What about Libba? Not a dogs fan.

Gee the eagles would be embarrassed looking at the 2009 draft - unfortunately.

Sheppard is finally starting to come on a bit at least, but yeah crap draft for us.

 

[Masked Magician]

Josh Thomas although rightly not top 15 or 20 on any lists, has definitely proved that at pick #75, he may have already be top 30/40 odd in the draft

 

[raymagoo]

Josh Thomas although rightly not top 15 or 20 on any lists, has definitely proved that at pick #75, he may have already be top 30/40 odd in the draft

Pretty handy player

 

[timtamWB]

You're a one-eyed supporter unfortunately.

Logical argument.

I think Cunnington deserves to be top 3, top 5 at the very least. Bulldogs fan here, and I'm not a fan of North at all. His impact on games and his stats show that he deserves to be rated that highly.

 

[Wild Bill]

Logical argument.

I think Cunnington deserves to be top 3, top 5 at the very least. Bulldogs fan here, and I'm not a fan of North at all. His impact on games and his stats show that he deserves to be rated that highly.

He does not rate young inside mids. This thread it's cunners another thread it is Libba. Both have big futures and important roles to play. If he can't see that you won't change his mind. His top 15 call is terrible.

 

[MightyPies1]

Josh Thomas although rightly not top 15 or 20 on any lists, has definitely proved that at pick #75, he may have already be top 30/40 odd in the draft

More than that. Easily above pick 30-40 in that draft. And he will climb fast!

Picks 7,11,22,27,32,33,36,41,43,48,51,52,53,54,57,58,59,60,61,63,65#,66*,67,68*,70#,71,72#,74#

# denotes rookie upgrade so doesn't really count and

* denotes a pass.

So from that draft, already 22 have been delisted before him, along with 4 rookie upgrades and a passes, that means he really has already gone up 28 spots, to bring him to 47, and there are a lot of spuds who he's definitely better then at the bottom end.

On a side note, this draft has seen several first round draft picks have horrific run of injuries and their careers may well be cut short.

They are Morrabito (4) Rohan (6) Menzel (17).

 

[Deanos]

Funny how things can change over a few years. Martin was rated at no 2 by lots of people and is now quite obvious that top 3 would be:-
1: FYFE
2: Cunnington or Gunston
3: Cunnington or Gunston.

Fyfe and Carlisle are the only players that are in front of him. He has out performed every player in this draft this year - fyfe has been suspended so it is tough to include him. He is 6th in the coches vote this year.

I can't really say this without being bias but you couldn't be more bias, if you honestly think Cunnington is better than Martin.

Martin has been clearly the better player overall throughout their careers.

Dustin Martin

2010
Played 21 games: 425 disposals at 71% disposal efficency 101 clearances 70 tackles 74 inside 50's 11 goals

2011
Played 22 games: 486 disposals at 71% disposal efficiency 88 clearances 72 tackles 93 inside 50's 33 goals

2012
Played 20 games: 447 disposals at 70% disposal efficiency 66 clearances 60 tackles 85 inside 50's 23 goals

2013
Played 23 games: 557 disposals at 69% disposal efficiency 58 clearances 63 tackles 91 inside 50's 23 goals

2014
5 games: 111 disposals at 66% disposal efficiency 11 clearances 11 tackles 17 inside 50's 8 goals

Vs

Ben Cunnington

2010
Played 18 games: 249 disposals at 71% disposal efficiency 33 Clearances 77 tackles 32 inside 50's 1 goal

2011
Played 16 games: 207 disposals at 69% disposal efficiency 37 clearances 63 tackles 26 inside 50's 4 goals

2012
Played 20 games: 367 disposals at 74% disposal efficiency 88 clearances 107 tackles 46 inside 50's 10 goals

2013
Played 20 games: 421 disposals at 69% disposal efficiency 142 clearances 96 tackles 58 inside 50's 14 goals

2014
Played 5 games: 121 disposals at 66% disposal efficency 42 clearances 32 tackles 19 inside 50's 0 goals

 

[Bailey01]

Fyfe and Carlisle are the only players that are in front of him. He has out performed every player in this draft this year - fyfe has been suspended so it is tough to include him. He is 6th in the coches vote this year.

Daniel Talia says hello

 

[Wild Bill]

I can't really say this without being bias but you couldn't be more bias, if you honestly think Cunnington is better than Martin.

Martin has been clearly the better player overall throughout their careers.

Dustin Martin

2010
Played 21 games: 425 disposals at 71% disposal efficency 101 clearances 70 tackles 74 inside 50's 11 goals

2011
Played 22 games: 486 disposals at 71% disposal efficiency 88 clearances 72 tackles 93 inside 50's 33 goals

2012
Played 20 games: 447 disposals at 70% disposal efficiency 66 clearances 60 tackles 85 inside 50's 23 goals

2013
Played 23 games: 557 disposals at 69% disposal efficiency 58 clearances 63 tackles 91 inside 50's 23 goals

2014
5 games: 111 disposals at 66% disposal efficiency 11 clearances 11 tackles 17 inside 50's 8 goals

Vs

Ben Cunnington

2010
Played 18 games: 249 disposals at 71% disposal efficiency 33 Clearances 77 tackles 32 inside 50's 1 goal

2011
Played 16 games: 207 disposals at 69% disposal efficiency 37 clearances 63 tackles 26 inside 50's 4 goals

2012
Played 20 games: 367 disposals at 74% disposal efficiency 88 clearances 107 tackles 46 inside 50's 10 goals

2013
Played 20 games: 421 disposals at 69% disposal efficiency 142 clearances 96 tackles 58 inside 50's 14 goals

2014
Played 5 games: 121 disposals at 66% disposal efficency 42 clearances 32 tackles 19 inside 50's 0 goals

My post said this year.

 

[Deanos]

My post said this year.

My mistake, but the other one I quoted didn't.

 

[Bailey01]

So Cunnington is now 3rd in this draft because of5 games...... Dat logic

 

[GrandBlue]

 

[RobbieGray17]

So Cunnington is now 3rd in this draft because of5 games...... Dat logic

How many games does a player need to be proven? I think its like marriage. There are no rules, you could get married in 6 months or 6 years. Players can be proven quality, and fast.

Conversely players can drop off quickly too.

 

[Deanos]

So Cunnington is now 3rd in this draft because of5 games...... Dat logic

No, he'd probably be 6-10 in this draft at the moment but he has been the best this year from this draft.

 

[Wild Bill]

So Cunnington is now 3rd in this draft because of5 games...... Dat logic

This year he has been. Career - no.

A player like Carlisle has been better but he is really struggling this year.

 

[Bailey01]

This year he has been. Career - no.

A player like Carlisle has been better but he is really struggling this year.

Talia, Fyfe, Gunston, Duncan, Martin, Christensen and Jetta have been better. Cunnington probably has been the best of this draft, this year alone but to think he is better than any of those is just incorrect.

 

[Wild Bill]

Talia, Fyfe, Gunston, Duncan, Martin, Christensen and Jetta have been better. Cunnington probably has been the best of this draft, this year alone but to think he is better than any of those is just incorrect.

Inside mids take a bit longer. Would anyone take Jetta before Cunners now? He is setting a high standard in 2014 and if he keeps this up he will come over the top of some of those you have named.