I know people that previously did or still do use ice. Purple Suit and Balony I have to agree. I've seen for some of them that it does nothing other than make them scattered the next few days - still unpleasant to be around, like you're babysitting an agitated sloth, but tolerable. I've also seen the switch that goes off in some people's heads where they get on edge quickly and violent, like a hyper alcohol violence some people get when they drink... but with drinking where you can see a gradual evolution of the person from sane to alcohol infused hulk-ism, with ice "rage" it always was an instant thing. Normal, then a trigger, then BOOM out of control. I stopped wanting to be around these people even though they were long time friends and even relatives. They ended up ditching the drug, thankfully. It has (probably) contributed to some health issues at least one is now having. I still know a person who I would class as addicted at a low level. He doesn't care about who else is affected. Have tried to convince him otherwise, but now just have to leave him to his own devices. I can only imagine how those like Balony_pony deal with the worst of it weekly/daily. I've seen plenty of speed sniffers, pill poppers, cocaine takers and worse gbh (ugh), ketamine (brain melting stuff) and heroine users, too. Ketamine is a mess. Ice is still the worst I've seen for the grip it has on people. Without knowing the facts, it will be truly sad and tragic if this was as a result of such a thing (not that it isn't already).