Banter Round 1 2015 - Sydney VS. Essendon* Pre Season discussion Thread

[eth-dog]

Are Heppell , Winderlich and Carlise fit to play if they get off ?

Yes, no, yes. The best 22 players missing will be Winderlich and Hocking.

 

[ohhhBigMalcho]

so when is Mcglynn expected back, how serious is this injury?

 

[bedford]

Round 21

 

[The King!]

Cooney will be interesting, i reckon he has been stuffed the last few years

 

[kickthething]

Mitchell's NAB form hardly makes him automatic does it ? Mitchell is a one pace plodder who gets inside and accumulates which during the NAB he didn't do. He disposes well by hand and by foot helicopters is an apt description. At this stage I don't believe he is going to be the messiah some do.
Where as Heeney & Mills next year are going to be a dynamic duo that are going to rip it up for years to come. Unless Mitchell gets a wriggle on by seasons end he will be tradeable and will fetch good value at market. Hope I am wrong about him but he is no walk up start that is for sure.

I agree with the sentiment here.....and given the style of play Mitchell exhibits, I feel that if he doesn't make it at Sydney he wont make it anywhere else because he has a very Sydney style about his game. Mitchell can play, I just don't think his game has enough bows atm and Heeney will go past him if he hasn't already.

 

[The King!]

so today is the day this s**t stain club get their slap on the wrist at best i imagine.

 

[Millky95]

Expecting them to only miss the year. Does that mean Ryder would also miss the year?

 

[The King!]

yeah monfries and crameri as well

but bet they give them like 6 weeks and say the nab counted etc etc

Hope its done today, bet its not.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Expecting them to only miss the year. Does that mean Ryder would also miss the year?

They have the options of different penalties for different players remember.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

There will be a riot if Mitchell misses out.

Why? Surely he has to COMMAND a spot. He has been shocking this pre season!

 

[robbieando]

Remember today we only get a Guilty or Not Guilty decision. No penalties will be handed out today if the are found guilty, that will be left for another hearing.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...s-afl-antidoping-verdict-20150330-1majjd.html

The first step will be a directions hearing for lawyers to determine when a sanctions hearing will take place. Lawyers will also begin applications to have any suspensions backdated from what would be a maximum two-year ban. ASADA and the AFL will also put forward what they feel should be appropriate sanctions. These hearings could be done over a couple of days but could drag out if there are technical arguments. This would mean the players remain provisionally suspended and almost certainly will miss at least round one – unless the AFL agrees to lift the suspension. They also have 21 days to appeal to the AFL appeals tribunal and the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

If they are guilty there is a 21 day standing down period

 

[Millky95]

If they are guilty, they won't be playing Saturday anyway

 

[LukeParkerno1]

If they are guilty, they won't be playing Saturday anyway

We better not underestimate them! This was the same attitude we took last year with the GWS hacks!

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

They can still play Saturday if found guilty today.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

They can still play Saturday if found guilty today.

Wrong.

They are automatically stood down if guilty.

 

[swansfan51]

They'd better get ******* suspended otherwise I need to rewrite two thirds of my preview

 

[LukeParkerno1]

They'd better get ******* suspended otherwise I need to rewrite two thirds of my preview

Priorities I tell you lol

 

[robbieando]

Wrong.

They are automatically stood down if guilty.

Incorrect, to a point.

They will still be provisionally suspended if found guilty until after the hearing to decide their penalties which most likely won't happen until next week. They can still play Saturday if they request to the AFL to have the provisional suspensions lifted until such time that penalties are handed down plus appeals lodged and decided. But that would effect backdating and thus the AFL would likely reject any such request.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Incorrect, to a point.

They will still be provisionally suspended if found guilty until after the hearing to decide their penalties which most likely won't happen until next week. They can still play Saturday if they request to the AFL to have the provisional suspensions lifted until such time that penalties are handed down plus appeals lodged and decided. But that would effect backdating and thus the AFL would likely reject any such request.

Yeah well the AFL aint going to allow them to play, watch ASADA/WADA come in and belt them like nothing before if that happens. They can request it, you are right, it won't be given. The provisional suspensions basically become suspensions. Not to mention if they play they will forgo any 'time served'.

 

[robbieando]

Yeah well the AFL aint going to allow them to play, watch ASADA/WADA come in and belt them like nothing before if that happens. They can request it, you are right, it won't be given. The provisional suspensions basically become suspensions. Not to mention if they play they will forgo any 'time served'.

Correct, they can ask but it won't be lifted because of the backdating issues. Which ASADA/WADA would appeal if given.

 

[The King!]

i hear if Essendon are guilty they may increase our trade ban

 

[robbieando]

i hear if Essendon are guilty they may increase our trade ban

and the if the Collingwood players are rubbed out they will be given Heeney and Mills as Compensation. #blamesydney

 

[Membling]

Expecting either a not guilty for players and guilty for club or an Essendon ban that has as much heft as a wet leaf of lettuce.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Expecting either a not guilty for players and guilty for club or an Essendon ban that has as much heft as a wet leaf of lettuce.

Yes and the Swans are found guilty of something we didn't do...