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Tonight is going to be an almighty task for our squad given Perth are easily the best team in the comp. plus the dreadful heat will be a concern.
 
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After the recent round the Reds have moved up to 3rd behind Wellington and the Victory have dropped to 4th. Wellington 4 pts behind Perth, Adelaide 2 behind Wellington and Melbourne 1 behind Adelaide.
 
mic59 said:
After the recent round the Reds have moved up to 3rd behind Wellington and the Victory have dropped to 4th. Wellington 4 pts behind Perth, Adelaide 2 behind Wellington and Melbourne 1 behind Adelaide.
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Victory back up to 3rd after beating the Asian Champs 2-1 last night
 
So who is going to tune in to the Asian Cup tomorrow night?? The ABC have been flogging the crap out of it. I guess after out bidding fellow government broadcaster SBS by $700k they have to make it work. The ratings figures will be interesting to read over the next 3 weeks.

I wonder if they were allowed to broadcast it on the Australia Network if Tony and Joe kept it alive after October. There are always rights issues re satellite provider v national broadcaster in every nation - eg ESPN have rights in USA but not in Oz as a Free TV network has purchased them.
 
Definitely will tune in REH. I think Foxtel (Foxsports 4?) are also showing the games live.
 
So the game starts at 7-30 CST and the ABC coverage in SA starts at 9-30 with probably 10 minutes intro. Those campaigners at the ABC have been advertising to death how big the tournament is and how great their coverage will be and the campaigners dont even have proprietary rights.
 

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So the game starts at 7-30 CST and the ABC coverage in SA starts at 9-30 with probably 10 minutes intro. Those campaigners at the ABC have been advertising to death how big the tournament is and how great their coverage will be and the campaigners dont even have proprietary rights.
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The contempt that FTA channels showed sports fans was bad enough when they only had 1 channel. Now that they have multiple digital channels, surely they could be maximising the flexibility this provides.

ABC1 2 & 3 all showing crap at game time. 3 x as contemptuous as before.

Live on Murdoch Sports 4 in my house.....Rupert can have my few bucks a day any time.
 
GranFormaggi said:
The contempt that FTA channels showed sports fans was bad enough when they only had 1 channel. Now that they have multiple digital channels, surely they could be maximising the flexibility this provides.

ABC1 2 & 3 all showing crap at game time. 3 x as contemptuous as before.

Live on Murdoch Sports 4 in my house.....Rupert can have my few bucks a day any time.
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ifthe the abc dont have prolrietary rights to live telecasts ok they cant do mucch but dont run ads giving the impression your are the host and sole Oz broadcaster.
 
RussellEbertHandball said:
ifthe the abc dont have prolrietary rights to live telecasts ok they cant do mucch but dont run ads giving the impression your are the host and sole Oz broadcaster.
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From their website they are showing "..live all Socceroos matches from the quarter-finals onwards." - a big presumption

They need to promote their coverage as best they can even if it isn't as good as it could be. Would have thought proprietary rights would have been more likely from the quarters onwards, but there you go.
 
wow, what a 2nd half performance. should've been 6 or 7 on the score sheet though, but not complaining with 4.

Leckie, what a star
 
I'm going to have a little bitch - because I am a little bitch

That was a par performance and not that great.

6-0 would have grabbed the public's attention.

The defence seems to be at odds with itself at times and needed to spend more time up the ground.

Breached softly too often and Ange needs to bang a few heads together.

Luongo - me likey!!!
 
The 1st half was scrappy, as you said defence was shaky at times... but that performance in the 2nd half, wow. If we played like that in the 1st half it would've been a lot bigger margin.

We've finally got some goal scoring threat up front apart from Cahill.
 
Cracking first half of the game against the Koreans.

Forget the rivalry against Japan, bore-fest.

The new rivalry should be against the Koreans, this mob don't hold back.

Bring on the second half. Cahill to come on about 65th minute...
 
Dentshop said:
Cracking first half of the game against the Koreans.

Forget the rivalry against Japan, bore-fest.

The new rivalry should be against the Koreans, this mob don't hold back.

Bring on the second half. Cahill to come on about 65th minute...
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New - the Socceroos v South Korea rivalry is the true rivalry the Socceroos has in soccer - bigger than the Kiwis and Solomon Islands. It started in 1967 according to Johnny Warren who was adamant that's who we should bench mark ourselves against in Asia . It should have started in 1965 when Oz was trying to qualify for the 1966 WC. Africa, Asia and Oceania were grouped together for 1 qualifying spot. Oz, South Korea, North Korea and South Africa got thru to the final stage and were going to play each other home and away and who ever was at the top of the table qualified. But South Africa was suspended by FIFA for apartheid. The 3 team final qualifing stage was supposed to happen in Japan but then FIFA changed it to Cambodia and South Korea pulled out - politics. So Oz and Noth Korea played 2 games in Cambodia rather than an home and away qualifying games. Oz lost 1-6 and the 1-3. North Korea stunned the football world at the 1966 WC, qualified for the Q/F's and were 3-0 up against Portugal afer 25 minutes and it took the great Eusebio to score 4 goals to beat the North Koreans. A late goal saw Portugal win 5-3.

In 1967 with the Vietnam War not going so well the ADF asked the then Australian Soccer Federation asked them to send a team to an international tournament in Saigon as a sort of goodwill gesture to play teams from the region, This article gives a good account of the tournament as does Johhny Warren's book Sheilas Wogs and NTTAWWTters.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2013/jun/06/australia-friendship-tournament-vietnam-1967

One of the values that differs most between the sport of the past and the sport of our own era is the value placed on human life. The days of first-aid free Formula One races or bare-headed batsman have gone, although we can still relate to their logic and romance. Harder to understand is the decision to hold an invitational football tournament in the middle of a warzone. A delusional propaganda exercise, even in name – the Friendly Nations Tournament – was a bad idea. But from Botany Bay to Gallipoli, Australian history is built on bad ideas, and so it was with the country's football. The birthplace of the Socceroos success wasn't Sydney, it was Saigon, where the team won their first international tournament under flare-lit skies rumbling with helicopters with the Vietnam War in full flow.

Before this unlikely proving ground Australia's footballers had toured unhappily,banned by Fifa until 1963, then withering against North Korea in Cambodia in 1965, the first of many World Cup qualification snafus. The squad had been hot, sick, and underprepared for a technical North Korean team. Only two players continued on to Saigon in 1967, but one of them was 24-year-old captain Johnny Warren, and he was determined not to be humiliated again. The team was made up of people with day jobs – tailors, council workers, meat men. But it prepped hard, and the coach "Uncle Joe" Vlasits arranged for the ground to be inspected. But for a team so young it could have been sent to Vietnam as draftees instead, there were things that couldn't be trained for.
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The food was rancid spam; the rooms even less appealing. Former Manchester United youth player Stan Ackerley went to switch on his fan, touched a live wire, and was shocked across the room, the burn going straight through his sock. And then there was the "training ground".

"There were no training facilities," says Abonyi. "They took us down to this little park – just a local park. It was terrible."

"The goalpost wasn't a proper goalpost. Somebody just made it up. And behind the goals there was a six- or seven-foot fence. We were having shooting practice, and a couple of the balls went over. And someone – I forget who it was now – was about to go retrieve the balls. And as he was half-way up, people were coming from everywhere screaming: "Don't go, don't go! No, no, no, no!" And we found out that the field behind us, where the balls had landed was full of bloody landmines. So the balls stayed.
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The soldiers watched the game against New Zealand, where the field had to be swept for mines first, and the rain had turned it into a slurry of mud....................The game against South Vietnam was tense, heavy gambling adding to the tension in the crowd. Many of the Australian players were performing in front of crowds of 30,000 for the first time, but the difficult conditions were building the kernel of a team spirit that would define the decades to come........The South Vietnamese vice-president visited the home side in the changing rooms at half-time, offering them six months' salary as a bonus if they could win. But Johnny Warren's goal was enough....

Against Malaysia, brawls broke out in the crowd, and the game was finished in a haze of teargas. But Australia were winning and reached the final. That was to be against South Korea, strong favourites with a sense of superiority about them. But the Australians were playing for more than just a trophy. "John Barclay, he was the team manager," says Ackerley. "Before the tour, he told us 'we want the tracksuits back'. And before the final, he said 'I'm going to take this on my head. You win the final, you get to keep the tracksuit.' So the big reward for going up to Vietnam in a warzone and winning the tournament, was actually that they let us keep our tracksuits."

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The stadium was filled to capacity, and at first the team was told there was no room for the Australian soldiers who had cheered their progress. Threats were made to boycott the match and, miraculously, empty seats were found on the sideline. The Australians, a little nervous, took the pitch, and to their amazement were greeted by the South Vietnamese fans with enthusiastic cheering. They had forgiven South Vietnam's defeat, responding to the Australians' direct style of play and efforts to mingle in the city (the other teams had spent most of their time in the hotel). The South Koreans were booed.

"They didn't like the Koreans, for some reason, the Vietnamese," says Baartz. "They … sided with our team, whether it was the way we played football, or what it was I don't know. But we had more crowd support than they did. They turned it all around. It was nice, because we'd gone in as so-called underdogs, but to have people come out and start cheering for us – it was quite funny."

The Australian contingent hardly had time to absorb the surprise support, falling 1-0 behind in only the first minute to an opportunistic South Korean goal in what was to be a gruelling game.

"It was really hot and very heavy going," says Baartz. "It was just a mud-laden ground. So when you're playing in that heat and humidity, and the ground's such heavy going, and you haven't had a great diet, it obviously takes its toll on you. It was a good game, a hard game."

Australia fell back on team spirit. Abonyi remembers it "buzzing. It was impossible to describe." In the mud and heat, they somehow rallied to equalise, then scored two more goals for victory against a team that had been "crushing" all other opponents. After the failure against Cambodia, Australia had achieved the improbable.

"It was a tremendous result to win," says Baartz. "That tournament was just the first success of any Australian team anywhere … so it was a great feeling." Whether or not the name "Socceroos" was first coined on the tour is still debated, but there's no debate about the team spirit.

"That tour established – a lot of people have coined the phrase 'The Pioneers' for that team – but the tradition and the camaraderie and the team spirit that has been instilled in the Socceroo teams over the years … a lot of the foundation of it was laid in that tour," says Baartz. "There was a tremendous amount of team spirit, a lot of singing and laughing and joking … everybody just got on so well."

They would play 10 games on the tour, including a dusty post-celebrations match against troops stationed down south. All would be won, with Abonyi scoring 13 goals......
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2013/jun/06/australia-friendship-tournament-vietnam-1967
 
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