Agree. Whatever Sincliar's value was yesterday, it just halved this afternoon.
Recommitted Scott Lycett and Callum Sinclair
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So Sinclair's one game has halved his value?
What does a poor 2nd half of a season and lethargic finals series do to a uncontracted Jetta?
Lycett has showed potential just not in the squad currently because of form/injury but will be there for 2016....
If you want either Sinclair or Lycett you will need to pay, simple - both contracted and both can be handy additions to anyone needing a ruckmen
What does a poor 2nd half of a season and lethargic finals series do to a uncontracted Jetta?
Lycett has showed potential just not in the squad currently because of form/injury but will be there for 2016....
If you want either Sinclair or Lycett you will need to pay, simple - both contracted and both can be handy additions to anyone needing a ruckmen
So you are reneging on your proposed deal? Good.
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So he went from a late 2nd round to a late 4th round then
No. A late second round pick is worth around 500 points. Half that would get you a late third round.
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But Lycett and Jetta are not like for like. You don't trade a player you have a shortage of for another you have plenty of, even if he would be best 22. The Eagles will trade for Jetta, but wouldn't give up Lycett. If NicNat goes down next year, we have no specialist ruck.
West Coast fans are kidding themselves if they think Jetta for Lycett (IF he wants to have the number one ruck role) is not a fair trade.
Yes, Jetta had a putrid finals series as well as a terrible grand final in 2014. Which swans player had a good game?
In 2012 when we won the flag he was instrumental in that year as well as the grand final. His kicking is elite and he has been very good this season apart from the finals.
Jetta for Lycett is a fair trade WC supporters fair dinkum stop overrating Lycett like he's Polly Farmer.
Yes, Jetta had a putrid finals series as well as a terrible grand final in 2014. Which swans player had a good game?
In 2012 when we won the flag he was instrumental in that year as well as the grand final. His kicking is elite and he has been very good this season apart from the finals.
Jetta for Lycett is a fair trade WC supporters fair dinkum stop overrating Lycett like he's Polly Farmer.
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You're missing the point. Jetta for Lycett would be a perfectly fair trade if we had ruck depth (if anything, we would be winning that trade, despite the inherent higher value placed on key position players). But we don't have ruck depth, we can't afford to lose him, and Lycett has three years on his contract. So for West Coast, Lycett for Jetta is a terrible trade and one they won't do, I'm fairly certain.
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Surely you're trolling. Lycett is a promising 22 year old ruckman with a heap of potential and is contracted. Jetta will be 27 next year, is an outside front runner and uncontracted. Not NEARLY as valuable as an up and coming ruckman. Take into account firstly that a solid and very promising number 1 ruckman is much harder to obtain than a quick and skilled outside player. Jetta also has very little defensive game, and had a putrid finals campaign. Then also consider that Lycett is contracted while Jetta isn't.
Maybe being by being supporters we're slightly biased but there's no way in hell I'd trade Lycett for Jetta that's plain stupid. Jetta's hardly even worth a late first rounder let a lone a second round pick.
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All thing being fair and equal if we had the ruck depth we would likely do Jetta for one of Sinclair or Lycett, we don't have the depth however so the Swans will need to sniff around elsewhere for a ruckman.
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Can't see us letting them go. Not for Redden and Jetta as think both can be gotten with trading draft picks only. No one is off the table but think something better than Jetta or Redden would be needed for contracted rucks as losing one without a replacement will be depth risk.
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Sydney fans say lycett is a fringe player ! Not in your team he is not . He would be your number 1 ruck
We will just give you our selwood compo pick for jetta pick 20 and be done with it !
Fair value for an uncontracted player you are walking out the door .
Trade in zac smith or leuinburger who want to leave their clubs and be done with it .
Problem is lycett will be better than both .
We will just give you our selwood compo pick for jetta pick 20 and be done with it !
Fair value for an uncontracted player you are walking out the door .
Trade in zac smith or leuinburger who want to leave their clubs and be done with it .
Problem is lycett will be better than both .
The lycett trade could genuinely happen however i agree with wc supporters they shouldn't trade him because of minimal ruck depth.
I assume wc supporters would erupt if lycett was traded?
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The Australian reported a few days ago that West Coast was working to secure Jack Redden from Brisbane. Peter Schwab has already suggested that given Leuenberger's departure that the Lions are in the market for another ruckman - especially one that might be a long term ruckman.
A trade between the two clubs involving Redden and Lycett (who are both contracted) seems something that might satisfy both clubs' reported requirements.
A trade between the two clubs involving Redden and Lycett (who are both contracted) seems something that might satisfy both clubs' reported requirements.
Would need a phenomenal deal to release either.
Why strengthen a top 4 rival (talking about Sydney here obvs) when we don't need to.
Why strengthen a top 4 rival (talking about Sydney here obvs) when we don't need to.
far from being stupid trading lycett might be a good idea. he is contracted, young, good quality with potential to be a star ruckman, and with callum coming up and killing it this year we can probably do without him, though it would be preferable not too.
the trade offer would have to be massive though. why would the eagles give him up for anything less?
the trade offer would have to be massive though. why would the eagles give him up for anything less?
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Redden for Lycett is much closer to the mark than Jetta for Lycett IMO, but for the reasons stated above, the Eagles trading Lycett would be plain silly.
Richmond should be into a ruck imo. Maric is nearly done and Hampson will likely be delisted at the end of 2016.
Natanui, Lycett and Sinclair are all unlikely to play in the same side at once. What sort of deal would it take to get Sinclair or Lycett?
Who would be worth more to West Coast at the trade table?
rightly so, he wasn't taken to Melbourne as an emergency for the PR value. Nic was in real doubt for the last two finals which just heightens the need for a back up ruck man. During the season we effectively had to play with one ruck man at times.
Lysett is arguable the stronger in years to come (only 22) and Sinkers is a great team player with some versatility.
if lycett was uncontracted and asking to leave, his trade value would be a late first rounder. a straight swap for jetta would be pretty fair in that case. lycett is way younger and already shown signs that he is going to be an at-least-good AFL ruckman. he would be in most teams 22s as backup, and would be first choice in a couple of dire cases.
due to him being contracted and not asking to leave, getting the eagles to part with him would have to be somewhere significantly north of a single pick in the 15-20 range
due to him being contracted and not asking to leave, getting the eagles to part with him would have to be somewhere significantly north of a single pick in the 15-20 range
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If Lycett was uncontracted then Jetta for Lycett would be a reasonable deal IMO.
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Are these guys legitimately up for grabs? Are West coast happy enough to lose 1? I would have said no but the talk is around enough to say otherwise.
Purely external speculation because Sydney asked about them being involved in the Jetta trade.
As far as I am concerned they are required players. The very definition of required players because we only have 3 rucks on the list: 2 of which have had injury issues this year.
I would expect us to try and get a ruckman (or a young project ruckman) rather then to trade one out.
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Other clubs might be inquiring about them but 'the talk' says nothing of West Coast's willingness to deal.
It's simple really.
Most clubs look to the future and sustained success.
In two years time Lycett will be at the top of his game.
In two years Jetta will probably be on the delist list.
It's a no brainer. We don't do that trade.
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