Yep, it's pretty easy for these numpties to say what their clubs would & wouldn't do with a player that showed no interest in going to them.
Should Port Adelaide, Bulldogs, MFC and Stk be allowed Top Up players
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Ruckman averages a goal a game, not good enough, sack him.
Ken said he was a forward who would give Lobbe a hand in the ruck. Don't you worship the master?
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did you watch him?
port eventually have into lobbes demands and agreed to traded him to the western bulldogs. i think they see ryder as a full time ruck, or atleast a 50/50 split
He was better than both in 2015. I'm tipping that trend to continue in 2016
Yes I did. They traded him in as a big contested mark type in the forward 50 which they were missing. Read any PAFC article from the trade time.
Ken started him forward and he was that ineffectual he had to be moved into the ruck to make an impact. So much for the missing piece up forward!
Was waiting for someone else to reply As it seem a Crow supporter point out the obvious create a few issue's
Yes port and Essendon will have 37 on there primary list prior to the season start.
BUT they must in order to abide by the players CBA agreement promote a minimum of 1 rookie prior to the first game.
A question Port supporter may not like. This will also need a legal mind to verify,
But because they have promote a rookie onto the senior list prior to the season start, will it affect there cap, which was max out. and would this the main reason behind them announcing the non payments to Ryder and Monfries.
Finally a question to Port supporters, who will give Frampton a chop out in the SANFL. And when you worked that out ask you list management the question Why.
Yes I am a Crows supporter but I also support a team in the SANFL,
Are you trying to rewrite history and pretend you traded Ryder in as a ruckman?
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theyve just added dixon. still have westhoff and schulz. they dont exactly need him fwd anymore
Agree but they traded him in as a key forward. They had to get another final peice of the puzzle in Dixon because they figured out Ryder was a very good ruckman not so much a forward.
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and we traded in savage as an inside mid/winger who ended up playing half back
bruce was recruited as a KPD and ended up as a KPF
i'm sure there's more examples of this happening
clubs will draft them in on talent, identify a position for them but will also have other positions in mind. they like flexibility
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How many games did they actually play together? 8-10? Wouldn't shock me if they kicked over 1.5 goals a game when together.
Lobbe played 17 games, Redden 1. So Ryder was solo ruck on 4 occasions (did that well)
So in 14 games he was forward/ruck ala Jenkins and kicked 17 goals. Hope that helps.
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29 in march 2017... plenty of time
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you mean more like 8 months? lenny hayes did an ACL and came back fine and he was i think 31/32
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The original point made was that Adelaide fans must be kidding themselves if they think they wouldn't have wanted Ryder.
As a ruck, we have a better option in Jacobs. As a second big forward, Jenkins has proven over the last 2 seasons to be better than Ryder.
So for a first and second round draft pick and $700k per year, I think it's clear we would have passed.
As a ruck, we have a better option in Jacobs. As a second big forward, Jenkins has proven over the last 2 seasons to be better than Ryder.
So for a first and second round draft pick and $700k per year, I think it's clear we would have passed.
Didnt any of those clubs know the players were a chance to get rubbed out!
If Wada didn't appeal and accepted the AFL's verdict we wouldn't be having this conversation.
If Essendon didn't use their players as pin cushions we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Yes and the club has copped it's whack for it also the players were found not guilty by the AFL tribunal.As far as everyone was concerned this thing was done,kaput,fineto but nope Wada wanted to be a bunch of cowboys.
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