Snoops Annual Player Review, List and Draft Strategy

[POKsPies252]

How different a player is Lever to Scharenberg?

 

[Sunbot]

How do we rate de Goey after the TAC GF? I quite like the kid but haven't heard how he went in the combine.

 

[Shaneprice97]

How different a player is Lever to Scharenberg?

Pretty sure Lever is a Key Defender first, Scharenberg isnt.

 

[ZerokooL]

How different a player is Lever to Scharenberg?

Without trying to categorise the lads, and although they're both been tagged as defenders, it looks to me as though Lever digs the hard contest, crash and bash style with good pack marking skills. Whereas Schazza seems a little more silky and probably more versatile too. Reads play well and could play forward or back if needed.

 

[ZerokooL]

So Levi has nominated Pies and essentially joins Moore.. that's 2!

Who's next? Is Redden still a chance (even though Leppa has said he's not going anywhere)? Or will we have to look at a third party?

I'm hopeful Lions will come around and cough up pick 5 and if not Redden, we might be able to snag Aish? Although now that it appears we have Levi, pick 5 and 25 is becoming a lot more realistic.

 

[Robroy22]

So Levi has nominated Pies and essentially joins Moore.. that's 2!

Who's next? Is Redden still a chance (even though Leppa has said he's not going anywhere)? Or will we have to look at a third party?

I'm hopeful Lions will come around and cough up pick 5 and if not Redden, we might be able to snag Aish? Although now that it appears we have Levi, we pick 5 and 25 is becoming a lot more realistic.

Only if that was Hine's strategy all along....we will get what Hine wants.

 

[Snoop Dog]

How different a player is Lever to Scharenberg?

Bit taller obviously, bit more mongrel but both have lots of positional scope, beaut readers of the game and good users.

 

[Snoop Dog]

How do we rate de Goey after the TAC GF? I quite like the kid but haven't heard how he went in the combine.

I haven't seen all his testing yet but from earlier in the year his testing was solid but had him more as a high HF type than a mid. I think he was working on it. I'll post up his beep and 3km when i get it.

 

[Snoop Dog]

So Levi has nominated Pies and essentially joins Moore.. that's 2!

Who's next? Is Redden still a chance (even though Leppa has said he's not going anywhere)? Or will we have to look at a third party?

I'm hopeful Lions will come around and cough up pick 5 and if not Redden, we might be able to snag Aish? Although now that it appears we have Levi, pick 5 and 25 is becoming a lot more realistic.

I think so but i think pies are going to go and test the market as not convinced he isn't just going for money as much as Dad. IF the Suns come in with $750k over 5 years and Pies help pay a chunk in Yr 1 then we may just land picks 8 and 14 for him. Clearly Pies have put him out there.

 

[ksardog]

So Levi has nominated Pies and essentially joins Moore.. that's 2!

Who's next? Is Redden still a chance (even though Leppa has said he's not going anywhere)? Or will we have to look at a third party?

I'm hopeful Lions will come around and cough up pick 5 and if not Redden, we might be able to snag Aish? Although now that it appears we have Levi, pick 5 and 25 is becoming a lot more realistic.

What has one got to do with the other?
Re last sentence

 

[ZerokooL]

What has one got to do with the other?
Re last sentence

Levi is a ready made replacement for Beams, albeit not as good. Even so we might settle with Lions for pick 5 and 25 instead of pick 5 and a Beams replacement such as a Redden?

 

[ZerokooL]

IF the Suns come in with $750k over 5 years and Pies help pay a chunk in Yr 1 then we may just land picks 8 and 14 for him.

How awesome would that be! We can only hope.

 

[soreplums]

How awesome would that be! We can only hope.

Or a player to help them fit him under the cap. Mckenzie, lonergan, etc. relieves some cap pressure and they can still possibly hold onto a first rounder

 

[MeisterBot]

Would love to see us take Nakia Cockatoo and Jack Steele. Not sure at #5, but we'll have multiple picks in the 20s at this rate. Make it happen, Hine.

 

[Soups]

Would love to see us take Nakia Cockatoo and Jack Steele. Not sure at #5, but we'll have multiple picks in the 20s at this rate. Make it happen, Hine.

Jack's off to GWS unfortunately. Shame, because he's a collingwood supporter.

 

[Snoop Dog]

Or a player to help them fit him under the cap. Mckenzie, lonergan, etc. relieves some cap pressure and they can still possibly hold onto a first rounder

McKenzie be good

 

[soreplums]

I think so but i think pies are going to go and test the market as not convinced he isn't just going for money as much as Dad. IF the Suns come in with $750k over 5 years and Pies help pay a chunk in Yr 1 then we may just land picks 8 and 14 for him. Clearly Pies have put him out there.

Could this work?
Pies pick 14 to GWS for Jacksh (and if possible a swap of a second rounder)
Jacksh and pick 8 to Saints for pick 1 (and hope for a swap of a later pick somewhere)
Pies get pick 1 and hopefully swap a couple of later picks for earlier ones in the low 20's

 

[Snoop Dog]

Could do but the 8 might be a touch late to trade up to 1. I reckon 4-6 would def get done but 7 onwards might struggle.

 

[Baird]

Could this work?
Jacksh and pick 8 to Saints for pick 1

No.

 

[soreplums]

No.

Thanks. How about Jacksh and 5.

 

[MickGoPies]

3 year list forecast (to a Flag):


Pies Best in 2015 Pre-Trades:

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FB Williams Frost Toovey
HB Langdon Reid Seedsman
C Freeman Adams Sidebottom
HF Swan White Broomhead
FF Elliott Cloke Kennedy
Foll Witts Pendels Beams

Int Goldsack, Grundy, Fasolo, Karnezis

The Future: Moore, Sharenberg, Marsh
Depth: NBrown, Keeffe, Oxely, Gault, Sinclair, Ramsay, JThomas

Pies in 2016 (Without a FA signing):

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FB Williams Frost Langdon
HB Seedsman Reid Sharenberg
C Freeman Adams Sidebottom
HF Swan White Broomhead
FF Elliott Cloke Kennedy
Foll Witts Pendels Greenwood

Int Goldsack, Grundy, Fasolo, Karnezis

The Future: Moore, Marsh, Picks 5||Rnd 2||Round from 2015 Draft)
Depth: NBrown, Keeffe, Oxely, Gault, Sinclair, Ramsay, JThomas

Pies in 2017 (Without a FA signing):

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FB Williams Frost Langdon
HB Seedsman Reid Sharenberg
C Freeman Adams Sidebottom
HF Pick42015 Moore Broomhead
FF Elliott Cloke Kennedy
Foll Witts Pendels Greenwood

Int Goldsack, Grundy, Fasolo, Rnd 2||Rnd3 2015 draft

The Future: Marsh, Rnd 2||Rnd3 from 2015 Draft, Rnd1||Rnd 2||Round3 from 2016 Draft

 

[Hardas]

I think so but i think pies are going to go and test the market as not convinced he isn't just going for money as much as Dad. IF the Suns come in with $750k over 5 years and Pies help pay a chunk in Yr 1 then we may just land picks 8 and 14 for him. Clearly Pies have put him out there.

That would be great twice over - to screw Brisbane too.

 

[Snoop Dog]

3 year list forecast (to a Flag):


Pies Best in 2015 Pre-Trades:

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FB Williams Frost Toovey
HB Langdon Reid Seedsman
C Freeman Adams Sidebottom
HF Swan White Broomhead
FF Elliott Cloke Kennedy
Foll Witts Pendels Beams

Int Goldsack, Grundy, Fasolo, Karnezis

The Future: Moore, Sharenberg, Marsh
Depth: NBrown, Keeffe, Oxely, Gault, Sinclair, Ramsay, JThomas

Pies in 2016 (Without a FA signing):

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FB Williams Frost Langdon
HB Seedsman Reid Sharenberg
C Freeman Adams Sidebottom
HF Swan White Broomhead
FF Elliott Cloke Kennedy
Foll Witts Pendels Greenwood

Int Goldsack, Grundy, Fasolo, Karnezis

The Future: Moore, Marsh, Picks 5||Rnd 2||Round from 2015 Draft)
Depth: NBrown, Keeffe, Oxely, Gault, Sinclair, Ramsay, JThomas

Pies in 2017 (Without a FA signing):

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FB Williams Frost Langdon
HB Seedsman Reid Sharenberg
C Freeman Adams Sidebottom
HF Pick42015 Moore Broomhead
FF Elliott Cloke Kennedy
Foll Witts Pendels Greenwood

Int Goldsack, Grundy, Fasolo, Rnd 2||Rnd3 2015 draft

The Future: Marsh, Rnd 2||Rnd3 from 2015 Draft, Rnd1||Rnd 2||Round3 from 2016 Draft

Looks good doesn't it but a few others are on improve as well. If Lions get beams and Christensen they will be good to around then with Suns, GWS and potentially a couple of others who have good young lists.

The worry is that list without pick 5.

Am hoping Suns ot GWS come into market for dayne.

 

[ZerokooL]

Sanity check required please!

A reasonable scenario that I think should get everything across the line. It's not perfect but it's never going to be is it. Obviously only concerned with the Pies > < movements.

Pies > Beams (Lions), Heritier (Dees)
Pies < 5 (Lions), 23 (Dees), Crisp (Lions), Levi (Roos), Varcoe (Cats)

Bris < Beams (Pies), Christensen (Cats)
Bris > 5, Crisp (Pies), 21 (Cats)*, 25 (Roos)

Roos > Levi (Pies)
Roos < 25 (Bris)

Dees > Pick 48 (Ontraded from Cats for Clark)
Dees < Heritier (Pies)

Cats > Varcoe (Pies), Christensen (Bris)
Cats < 21 (Bris), Clark (Dees), Pick 30 + 48 (Pies)

* Pick 21 on traded from GWS to Brisbane (for Patfull) and then on to Cats.

 

[Snoop Dog]

ZerokooL

Look it's nothing like what GWS are offering but I think we take and move on. I've said many times I think its line ball if you take crisp or 25 but I did really like his form late in the year, he's a terrific size and ball user and just really looks like growing into a powerful player.

In saying that, Picks in the 20s can be hit (think Dunstan, hartung, broomhead and Taylor recently) or miss but this is a good draft in my view and we have a crack team.

To be honest I would prefer 5, 21, 25 and crisp and no Varcoe but the coach wants him.