News Stadium: The NEW Home of Football in WA

[Bulldocker]

I reread both Alfonz's post and yours, and stand by my defence of their post. Their concern was the ugliness of the site and you have not quoted him/her, but paraphrased what they said, based on two of their sentences.

The comparison of train lines and hospitals with a sporting stadium is not valid. For example, public transport helps far more people than actually use them, due to the freeing of other traffic, reducing road costs, and releasing population pressure on other suburbs. Hospitals benefit people at different times of their life cycle.
Comparisons with Royalties for Regions or Elizabeth Quay are more valid, as the jury is most definitely out as to their utility for the state's population.
In particular, there was huge wastage of funds initially with Royalties for regions. More critical appraisal of both of these projects are necessary imo.
Clearly (based on what you shouted) you think if a government is voted in, then you are happy for them to spend the money in any way they like. I disagree. Governments need to have their decisions scrutinised and reviewed.

I don't think it is healthy to shout down opposition in the way that some on this board have.

For what it's worth, I am looking forward to when I get to choose my seats. I hope that process is done properly.

Read it again CK. His pointed remarks were clearly aimed at the sort of people that patronise the nearby casino and his disdain was obvious for anyone to see (except for you). I never argued any other point that he made.
And your assertion that I am happy for governments to "spend money in any way they like" is just so off beam. In the case of the new stadium however, I am happy for them to spend even $1.3bil so we can finally have a sporting venue that is world class. That is what I said. I have a different opinion to you. But if the stadium does go over cost.......... will you still attend in 2018 or will you stay away on principle?
My point was made to another poster. You have tried to turn that to your agenda and failed.

 

[Clems Knee]

Read it again CK. His pointed remarks were clearly aimed at the sort of people that patronise the nearby casino and his disdain was obvious for anyone to see (except for you). I never argued any other point that he made.
And your assertion that I am happy for governments to "spend money in any way they like" is just so off beam. In the case of the new stadium however, I am happy for them to spend even $1.3bil so we can finally have a sporting venue that is world class. That is what I said. I have a different opinion to you. But if the stadium does go over cost.......... will you still attend in 2018 or will you stay away on principle?
My point was made to another poster. You have tried to turn that to your agenda and failed.

Okay. So I'm arguing with someone who can't read, or at least can not comprehend.

The quotes you launched your initial attack on were on "bogan paradise" and "intolerable bogans and deadbeats". But even then, both comments were attacking the casino venue.
You were the one who represented bogans as "wear a torn shirt, headbang to AC/DC, laugh at their own farts............... and yes, unbelievably, going to the casino for a beer and a punt" I'm pretty sure that is stereotyping. And as you also said that they are "far more genuine West Aussies", so that covers my term lauding.
The vast majority of that post was regarding the site, but you chose to misread the post. Not for the first or last time, I'd guess.

I based the assertion you quoted on two things, these are your quotes:
"$900mil, $1.1bil, $1.3bil......... IDGAF." and "HAPPY FOR MY TAX DOLLARS TO GO FOR GOVERNMENTS TO PROVIDE THEM"

Somehow you have avoided my comments regarding looking forward to going to the stadium, yet somehow I should "stay away on principle". Learn to read.

I would have preferred the stadium to be away from the Casino if possible. I preferred East Perth, but it was probably too small. My main concern is that discussion about the new stadium is open and continued, not simply a rah rah for one's favourite political party. I think that's the only way we will avoid some of the pitfalls that will come up, such as who manages the stadium and the catering.
For what it's worth, thanks to Tazmania's posts (I think, sorry if it was another poster), I am fairly confident so far that the building programme is on the right track. If I had to rely just on the official website, I would be far more concerned.

Yes the original attack was made to another poster. This is a forum. I'm allowed to reply. I've failed? Lol.

 

[purplerunsdeep]

Are the catering companies responsible for alcohol as well as food? Because Perth Arena has some of the best bar options I have seen at a stadium in Australia

Yep they are

 

[purplerunsdeep]

The relationship between Spotless and the AFL is too close for comfort.

Yeah not anymore - spotless does have the MCG but Delaware have done etihad since its inception

I would say etihad is better then MCG?

I would hope /expect the new stadium to be at least the standard we receive when going to etihad,

Delaware are owned and operated out of the US, where ogdens is from QLD. I would be surprised to see spotless win the rights, but regardless of who it is, it Wil be of high quality

Delaware is investing at the WACA and you will find that the caterer who wins the tender, will invest heavily (with the help of suppliers) unless healthways have their little input...

 

[Aussiblood]

Gotta say, every time I head out to lunch at work I gaze across the river and notice the site. Every time I just think how magnificent it will be and as a whole, I just think about footy, yes its 3yrs away - but it has me thinking about this year and the Dockers too! The power of a construction site

 

[Righteo]

Awesome vantage point dude, can look forward to lots of construction updates over the next few years I trust?

 

[Kram]

Such an awesome spot how some people wanted it left in Subiaco is beyond me, it's going to make the Adelaide Oval and the concrete jungle MCG look second rate when it's finally finished

 

[RUNVS]

Such an awesome spot how some people wanted it left in Subiaco is beyond me, it's going to make the Adelaide Oval and the concrete jungle MCG look second rate when it's finally finished

It is a nice looking stadium for sure (or will be) but it is not much bigger than Edihad. As a result it won't be as impressive as a completely packed MCG.

 

[Spirit Level]

I just hope that the place has a crazy atmosphere, like centurylink field crazy.

Poor acoustics would be a monumental **** up

 

[AstonSouffle]

It is a nice looking stadium for sure (or will be) but it is not much bigger than Edihad. As a result it won't be as impressive as a completely packed MCG.

It will be if it ends up louder. It's already a shoe in for best in looks considering where it is. If the crowd is the loudest, it'll be the best no doubt.

 

[gaskin]

It is a nice looking stadium for sure (or will be) but it is not much bigger than Edihad. As a result it won't be as impressive as a completely packed MCG.

How often does the MCG get packed other than GF and Anzac Day? A full Burswood stadium will look more impressive than a half full MCG with empty seats all over the ground.

 

[Righteo]

It is a nice looking stadium for sure (or will be) but it is not much bigger than Edihad. As a result it won't be as impressive as a completely packed MCG.

The G is impressive for its size and capacity and not much else, looks like the offspring between the Millennium Falcon and tetris pieces. That said, the strength of the new stadium won't (shouldn't) be the stadium by itself but the surrounding precinct and the efficiency of the PT links.

 

[Taylor]

Is it going to be called the Crown Stadium?

 

[Fred Ziffel]

Is it going to be called the Crown Stadium?

That's really not a bad name.

If the money was right it would be a win / win deal.

 

[RUNVS]

It will be if it ends up louder. It's already a shoe in for best in looks considering where it is. If the crowd is the loudest, it'll be the best no doubt.

That is possible. I was still disappointed when I found out the stadium would only have 60,000 seats. That is not even big enough for now given how long a waiting list both West Coast and Fremantle have for memberships and it gives no room for growth.

How upgradable is the ground going to be from its 60,000 seats? Would it be able to go to 80,000 seats in a decades time if the 60,000 proves to small?

 

[Spirit Level]

Would prefer Woodside stadium or BHP stadium.

Gives a WA feel without being a s**t boring name like Perth Stadium or Burswood Stadium

 

[Taylor]

Sellout Stadium

 

[Righteo]

Would prefer Woodside stadium or BHP stadium.

Gives a WA feel without being a s**t boring name like Perth Stadium or Burswood Stadium

Really? I would take Perth or Burswood stadium any day over the name of a bloody oil company.

 

[Kram]

How upgradable is the ground going to be from its 60,000 seats? Would it be able to go to 80,000 seats in a decades time if the 60,000 proves to small?

Could be wrong but I thought the initial ideas was to have it upgradable to 70k seats.

60k is about right for our supporter base, screw the Eagles.

 

[Spirit Level]

I usually hate naming rights for stadiums (see subiaco oval).

But the new stadium doesn't have any history attached to it and I dunno, Perth/burswood stadium seems boring to me.

Probably wouldn't happen but my #1 choice for the name would be C.Y O'Connor stadium

 

[Righteo]

I usually hate naming rights for stadiums (see subiaco oval).

But the new stadium doesn't have any history attached to it and I dunno, Perth/burswood stadium seems boring to me.

Probably wouldn't happen but my #1 choice for the name would be C.Y O'Connor stadium

You work for one of those companies right?

And yeah, the whole "new" thing obviously means it doesn't but all traditions have to start somewhere. I think it would be a real shame given the rest of the big footy grounds have retained their names and sense of identity, SCG/GABBA/MCG/AO/Perth, it makes sense.

Maybe something to tie in with the whole indigenous/quintessential Australian theme they seem to be going for?

 

[Steinfreo]

The Pavlich McManus Mega Dome.

 

[Kram]

The Pavlich and Sumich ends sounds good.

 

[Kwality]

That is possible. I was still disappointed when I found out the stadium would only have 60,000 seats. That is not even big enough for now given how long a waiting list both West Coast and Fremantle have for memberships and it gives no room for growth.

How upgradable is the ground going to be from its 60,000 seats? Would it be able to go to 80,000 seats in a decades time if the 60,000 proves to small?

Why are you enamoured with a half full venue? As Adelaide Oval is proving a full house & a great atmosphere go hand in hand.

Financially it works, as proved at Pattos@Subi
The Perth teams have a business model that reaps more from membership and reserve seats, due to the demand for a membership and seat often exceeding supply. Unlike the bigger Victorian clubs, they make virtually nothing from the casual walk-up fan – so their massive advantage in membership money is somewhat negated by the lack of gate receipts and "walk-up" reserve seats.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

^^
Burn the CFOs and give the game back to the supporters.