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[S.J Rollin]

Governor Stirling was required to select a site for the main settlement to be out of the range of naval bombardment. Hence Fremantle was the port only and the main city was built further upstream, further protected from the sea by a big hill. Unfortunately by the end of the century with the development of the big gun battleship the location was probably well within reach.



*runs away*

back in the late 80's I had a lecturer who was Adam Ant... that Stirling should have plonked the Swan River Colony at Point Heathcoate. He believed it was strategically, a better defendable position against the French, better for town planning (connected to Freo by land) and that freshwater could be sourced from Bullcreek instead of Claisebrook which is where the colony ended getting its water.
Still, it is was a nice place to put what ended up being there... quite calming.

 

[imadoka]

I'm yet to see someone beat jethro11's name suggestion of:

Vir Gina Arena.

 

[Vintage]

back in the late 80's I had a lecturer who was Adam Ant... that Stirling should have plonked the Swan River Colony at Point Heathcoate. He believed it was strategically, a better defendable position against the French, better for town planning (connected to Freo by land) and that freshwater could be sourced from Bullcreek instead of Claisebrook which is where the colony ended getting its water.
Still, it is was a nice place to put what ended up being there... quite calming.

 

[salim malik]

Article in the West this morning states that Fri night games at the new stadium will be in doubt because of the lack of rolling stock during Fri night peak hour.
Will be a major stuff up if thats the case.Missing out on Fri night exposure would be a disaster for both local clubs.

 

[holybishop]

AFL could just change the start time to 6.40 to beat peak hour

 

[Kram]

I way prefer Saturday night games anyway.

 

[Frank J Moose]

Article in the West this morning states that Fri night games at the new stadium will be in doubt because of the lack of rolling stock during Fri night peak hour.
Will be a major stuff up if thats the case.Missing out on Fri night exposure would be a disaster for both local clubs.

Or maybe buy some more rolling stock?

They run at full capacity as it is during morning and afternoon peak times.

 

[salim malik]

Or maybe buy some more rolling stock?

They run at full capacity as it is during morning and afternoon peak times.

The coffers are empty.

 

[salim malik]

Or maybe buy some more rolling stock?

They run at full capacity as it is during morning and afternoon peak times.

Thats the point they havent got the extra trains for the footy crowd.

 

[Rob]

Or maybe buy some more rolling stock?

They run at full capacity as it is during morning and afternoon peak times.

Bit silly buying more trains solely for the purpose of a couple of Friday night games a year.

Hopefully it might result in the AFL doing the Friday night double header....6:30 EST start for the first game, 7:30 WST start for the 2nd.

 

[Righteo]

This doesn't seem to be an issue that "putting more trains on" can't fix? I know TP is notoriously bad at organizing extra trains and buses on game day but still...

 

[Rob]

This doesn't seem to be an issue that "putting more trains on" can't fix? I know TP is notoriously bad at organizing extra trains and buses on game day but still...

It would completely fix it, but the trains don't exist. Peak hour is when all trains that are available are running.

 

[Righteo]

It would completely fix it, but the trains don't exist. Peak hour is when all trains that are available are running.

Isn't $300 million going towards public transport infrastructure? Is it really inconceivable that some of that might go towards more trains? Not really sure why it's been slated so grandiosely to be this car-free (relatively) system when an obvious problem of over-stressing of rail lines during peak hour wasn't something that would have been taken into account years ago already.

Were they just not planning on having any Friday night games from the start?

 

[Alfonz]

Article in the West this morning states that Fri night games at the new stadium will be in doubt because of the lack of rolling stock during Fri night peak hour.
Will be a major stuff up if thats the case.Missing out on Fri night exposure would be a disaster for both local clubs.

And how exactly would it be a disaster? Last year, we had one game (on Anzac night) at Subi on Friday. This year we have just one scheduled. Doesn't really mean much at all.

If anything, it would be better to not have Friday night games in Perth, due to the stupid 5.40 pm start time.

 

[The Speaker]

solution: afl decides to play friday night football at a time convenient for people in the city it is being held in

 

[Wizard]

solution: afl decides to play friday night football at a time convenient for people in the city it is being held in

Don't be silly, that might inconvenience a few Victorians sitting on the couch.

 

[Rob]

Isn't $300 million going towards public transport infrastructure? Is it really inconceivable that some of that might go towards more trains? Not really sure why it's been slated so grandiosely to be this car-free (relatively) system when an obvious problem of over-stressing of rail lines during peak hour wasn't something that would have been taken into account years ago already.

Were they just not planning on having any Friday night games from the start?

It's not about how many trains they have, it's that whatever trains they do have will be deployed already. If they bought another a dozen trains, they're not going to just sit there waiting for an event at the stadium, they're going to be used when needed - i.e peak hour. So irrespective of what they buy they probably won't be able to put special services on.

The only thing they might be able to do is delay or bring forward scheduled servicing so there are no trains in service at a point in time.

 

[masai]

solution: afl decides to play friday night football at a time convenient for people in the city it is being held in

And pink pigs will fly !!!.

Footy will play when it is convenient for the largest tv audience, that is the AFL (sorry 7) edict.

I know the games in Melbourne start at around 7.30, if it was the same in Perth, this transport problem would not occur.

 

[Nodgey]

I don't understand how this is a potential problem for the new stadium. Surely it would be a problem for any stadium anywhere?

Public transport at Subi for weekday night games is already s**t anyway. I also recall a Subi Oval Bon Jovi concert midweek that caused chaos.

 

[MadDocker]

"New stadium has same traffic and transport issues as every other stadium" As a headline doesn't really sell papers though, does it?

 

[Aussiblood]

Article in the West this morning states that Fri night games at the new stadium will be in doubt because of the lack of rolling stock during Fri night peak hour.
Will be a major stuff up if thats the case.Missing out on Fri night exposure would be a disaster for both local clubs.

Article = more opp vs exist govt yarn.
http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/f...-tap-at-burswood-stadium-20150204-13693c.html

"Transport minister Dean Nalder has quashed speculation that Friday night footy fans could face public transport delays at the new Burswood stadium.

The minister was responding to questions Opposition transport spokesman Ken Travers put to a parliamentary estimates committee hearing about whether the Public Transport Authority had enough trains available for stadium crowds during peak hour."​

Maybe they can order the extra trains anyway (because it takes like 3yrs) to replace the 'older' ones in service - on footy nights the old roll out for the gen.populous and the footy crowd gets the newer

 

[jusjoshin]

We'll get there.

 

[salim malik]

I don't understand how this is a potential problem for the new stadium. Surely it would be a problem for any stadium anywhere?

Public transport at Subi for weekday night games is already s**t anyway. I also recall a Subi Oval Bon Jovi concert midweek that caused chaos.

Subi has parking areas for the majority and its still crap trying to get there on public transport.There is very limited parking available at the new stadium.Its public transport or walk.They will need to cater for 50 odd thousand on public transport .With peak hour travellers as well as footy goers on Fri night it will be a nightmare.

 

[free at last]

Subi has parking areas for the majority and its still crap trying to get there on public transport.There is very limited parking available at the new stadium.Its public transport or walk.They will need to cater for 20 odd thousand on public transport .With peak hour travellers as well as footy goers on Fri night it will be a nightmare.

Shame about the causeway being so low.High speed ferries from certain parts of the river would be bloody handy.

 

[MadDocker]

Multi story carpark where the old entertainment centre was at Burswood will take car of a great deal of parking.

Short stroll through the gaming floor, couple of pints, $20 on red, across to the ground and they'll be hoping you stick around longer on the return leg.