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Essendon were eliminated from the 5 finals series they made between 1972 and 82 via losing 5 Elimination Finals.
Richmond have now been eliminated 3 finals series in a row this Elimination Final way.
 
footyfan78 said:
Essendon were eliminated from the 5 finals series they made between 1972 and 82 via losing 5 Elimination Finals.
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Lest we forget ... except for the two Elimination Finals in which Fitzroy defeated Essendon (1979, 1981), the Lions lost 8 of 8 finals in the thirty years to 1984, including four by less than a goal.
 

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The final five system lasted from 1972 to 1990.
The league then experimented with a final six system for three seasons of 1991 to 1993
We then experimented with the 1st version of a final eight system from 1994 to 1999.
This was then replaced with the current final eight system we have used since 2000 season and beyond.

The final five and six systems both had a finals match in second week of series known as 1st Semi-Final and any sides in it faced needing to win 3 finals in a row to win the premiership. The semi-finals we have all had in every final eight system is equivalent to those. (The traditional 2nd Semi-Final of having a double chance to reach grand final went when we moved to final 8 systems.)

Of 43 years of a task of winning 3 finals in a row from semi-final stage to last years premiership there have been 8 teams win the premiership from those circumstances.
They are as follows:
1973 Richmond (originally 2nd on ladder)
1977 North Melbourne (originally 3rd on ladder)
1993 Essendon (originally 1st on ladder)
1997 Adelaide (originally 4th on ladder)
1998 Adelaide (originally 5th on ladder and used a double chance from outside top 4 that was unique to first version of a final 8)
2003 Brisbane (originally 3rd on ladder)
2005 Sydney (originally 3rd on ladder)
2006 West Coast (originally 1st on ladder)

For North Melbourne to win the premiership they will have to break history and be the only side to win from these circumstances that never had possibility of a double chance the week before. No side has won premiership from outside the top four without needing to win 4 cut throat finals in a row where you know you automatically out at any point you lose.
The Adelaide premiership in 1998 was won after losing first week of finals as fifth team on ladder. This is not possible now to get a double chance outside top 4.
North Melbourne as finishing in 8th spot on ladder have to do something no other team has done before.
If they incredibly be the first team to do it this way we will look back on the resting half of their best team in last home and away round as the difference.
However, should Trent Dumont play in grand final and they win , rest assured he will call himself, the difference.
 
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With Fremantle playing Hawthorn next week, one of Ross Lyon or Alistair Clarkson will be coaching in their 5th Grand Final this year.

If Fremantle win, Lyon will draw level with Clarkson for current coach with most finals experience (21 including GF)

Ross Lyon has the highest winning percentage (67.05%) of any coach with more than 150 games (the QF win put him past Dick Reynolds).
 
The Swert said:
Ross Lyon has the highest winning percentage (67.05%) of any coach with more than 150 games (the QF win put him past Dick Reynolds).
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Has fielded the oldest teams relative to his opposition of any coach in that bracket at +1.10 years per player, well ahead of second-placed Percy Bentley (+0.71). It definitely contributes to his good record.

Has also fielded the oldest teams generally among 150-game coaches at 25.87, ahead of the original coach John Worrall (25.55).
 
This week we have both Preliminary Finals being played in Western Australia for the first time.

Adding to the oddity is that the last time the teams playing this week met was in Tasmania - North Melbourne v West Coast at Bellerive Oval in Round 10 and Hawthorn v Fremantle at York Park in Round 15.
 
We are yet to have a match decided by one point this year.

I believe the last completed season not to feature a 1 pt win/loss was in 1984.
 
In NRL land this is the 2nd consecutive year that the Roosters have won the Giltinan Shield (minor premiership) but have lost 2 finals sandwiching a semi final win.

2014: Lost to Penrith (QF), Beat North Queensland (SF), Lost to South Sydney (PF)
2015: Lost to Melbourne (QF), Beat Canterbury (SF), Lost to Brisbane (PF)

The last team to lose in Week 1 of the finals but make the GF was Melbourne in 2008, but had they won the premiership they would have been retrospectively stripped of the title courtesy of the 2010 Salary Cap saga.

Lost to NZ Warriors (QF), Beat Syd Roosters (SF), Beat Cronulla (PF), Lost to Manly (GF)

The last team to lose in Week 1 of the finals but eventually win the premiership was Brisbane in 2006

Lost to St.George/Illawarra (QF), Beat Newcastle (SF), Beat Canterbury (PF), Beat Melbourne (GF)


Also with the possibility that West Coast and Hawthorn may well meet for a second time during a finals series, discounting replays for drawn matches this could be the first such occurrence in the AFL since 2006 when Sydney beat West Coast in the QF at Subiaco but would lose the GF 3 weeks later by a point. It however would be the second time Hawthorn could meet West Coast for a second time during a finals series, with the Hawks beating the Eagles in both finals encounters in 1991 including the GF at Waverley.

This also happened since the establishment of the AFL in:
- 1990: Coll def Ess SF/GF having played a replay against West Coast in the QF
- 1992: WC def Geel SF/GF
- 1993: Carl def Ess QF, Ess def Carl GF
- 2003: Coll def Bris QF, Bris def Coll GF
 
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RedmanWasHere said:
With Hawthorn's win last night, it not only makes it the 5th Grand Final for the Hawks since 2008 but also the 5th year which Luke Hodge's mouth has been shut for club headshots.
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worbod said:
And so we now have Hawthorn and West Coast playing off in this year's big one; the two teams who hold the record for the most batmobiles present at a grand final.
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worbod said:
Have you not seen the half time entertainment from the 1991 grand final?

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Yes, of course, one of the game's more unforgettable moments! I did at least know what your post was about, still trying to figure out the one above yours!!
 
35Daicos said:
Yes, of course, one of the game's more unforgettable moments! I did at least know what your post was about, still trying to figure out the one above yours!!
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R.e. Luke Hodge and headshots:

2008.

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2012.
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It has so far been a bad omen playing your 300th game versus West Coast in a final at Subiaco. Nick Dal Santo's loss with North Melbourne this weekend follows defeat suffered by Rohan Smith and Scott West in a 2006 semi final.
 
It was mentioned after the All Australian announcements this week that Matt Priddis missed out last year despite winning the Brownlow. Shane Woewodin is the only other Brownlow winner to miss All Australia selection since qualification became solely based upon playing in the AFL.
From the days when All Australian was judged upon performances in interstate carnivals, the following are the Brownlow winners who missed All Australian selection: Peter Box (1956), John James (1961), Kevin Murray (1969), Kelvin Templeton (1980) and Brad Hardie (1985).
Peter Moore (1984), Robert DiPierdomenico (1986) and Tony Lockett (1987) were not selected in National All Australian teams but were chosen in the AFL Team of the Year for those respective years, which allows them to be credited as All Australian.
 
The West Coast Eagles last night qualified for their sixth Grand Final, and will play Hawthorn for the second time (1991 & 2015). They have also met their other GF opponents twice; Geelong in 1992 & 1994, and the Sydney Swans in 2005 & 2006.

The Raptors seem to be up and about in the major leagues in 2015. In addition to the Hawks vs. Eagles AFL Grand Final, today we see the VFL Grand Final between the Box Hill Hawks and Williamstown Seagulls; in the SANFL it is WWT Eagles vs. West Adelaide Bloods; and in the WAFL the West Perth Falcons play the Subiaco Lions. The only raptors to miss a GF spot are the Geelong Falcons, where Eastern Ranges and Oakleigh Chargers are playing in the TAC Cup Grand Final.
 
Hawthorn's Grand Final opponents from 2012-15.

2012: Sydney.
2013: Western Australian team.
2014: Sydney.
2015: Western Australian team.

Also, take out Fremantle and, since 2008, Hawthorn have played or will have played against all of West Coast's Grand Final opponents.
 
Oldest Grand Final teams

Avg Age|Club|Year|Opp|R
\27.73|Es|1923|Fi|W
\27.68|Fi|1944|Ri|W
\27.58|Ca|1909|Sy|L
\27.55|Co|1903|Fi|W
\27.50|Br|2004|PA|L
\27.43|Co|1915|Ca|L
\27.41|Ca|1904|Fi|L
\27.32|Sy|1945|Ca|L
\27.29|Ca|1908|Es|W
\27.27|Ge|2011|Co|W
\27.14|Ca|1921|Ri|L
\27.08|Co|1905|Fi|L
\27.02|Co|1918|Sy|L
\27.01|PA|2004|Br|W
\26.96|St|2010|Co|D
\26.95|Co|1919|Ri|W
\26.92|Ri|1921|Ca|W
\26.89|Ri|1982|Ca|L
\26.85|Sy|2014|Ha|L
\26.80|Ha|2014|Sy|W
Hawthorn 27.70, 27.64 & 27.66 in their three finals this season.
 
Sam Mitchell has now polled the most number of Brownlow votes without a win. His 204 surpasses Leigh Matthews' 202 (which is really 173.5 adjusted) and Brent Harvey's 187.
 
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