Stats reveal Selwood doesn't get the most high tackle frees per game

[Back One Out]

According to article on afl.com…

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-05-...way-for-receiving-free-kicks-for-high-tackles

"JOEL Selwood and Lindsay Thomas might be easy targets when it comes to singling out players who draw high free kicks in tackles, but Anthony Miles has received more per game since the statistic was first introduced."

"Since the statistic of free kicks drawn for high contact in tackles started being recorded in 2013, he's racked up 39 in 23 matches. That averages out to be 1.7 per game, whereas Selwood's average comes in at 1.52 (a total of 85 free kicks drawn from 56 matches)."


HIGH CONTACT FREE KICKS DRAWN IN TACKLES (2013-2015)

Individual players
Joel Selwood: 85
Allen Christensen: 41
Paul Puopolo: 40
Anthony Miles: 39
Trent Cotchin: 34
Lindsay Thomas: 33

Competition per game average
2015: 3.4 per game
2014: 3.1 per game
2013: 3.2 per game

 

[Engimal]

Holy *. Selwood has a higher total than second and third combined.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

So Brendan Gale, what's it like seeing TWO of your players ahead of Thomas on this table?

 

[Back One Out]

It's all about lifting your arm...

There's a simple fix.

Umpires must stop penalising secondary high contact that comes after the initial impact of the tackle
If the tackle hits the player's arm, then it is legal. Any contact that comes after is irrelevant.

Who cares if the legal tackle drifts up over the shoulder? Why is this prohibited anyway? Did anyone ever get hurt from one of those tackles pictured above? Why do AFL umpires get such a big stiffy for penalising these 'soft' high tackles?

AFL chiefs should take a leaf out of the NRL's book. Their game is far more tackle-oriented than ours. Watch their game and note how they referee the high tackles - they ignore the secondary contact - it's all about the initial impact of the tackle.

 

[RainMachine]

Took a couple of seasons to hone his technique

 

[telsor]

Richmond player at the top of the 'per game' list...OK, that lets me say this without appearing self serving..

Its a blight on the game and umps should be working to reduce it, although I can see it's a hard one to police.

 

[Engimal]

* I used to hate Ashton Hams. Haha.

 

[clogged]

I miss that face Adam Selwood used to pull. Like he'd been shot.

It'd be more useful to show what percentage of a player's kicks result from head high frees, and even further, what percentage of their contested possessions.

Joel Selwood at least puts himself in a contested situation more often than most. Someone like Thomas or Puopolo, who often go into contests seeking a free, a far worse.

 

[Back One Out]

The new umpire's chief, Wayne Campbell is a moron

He wants to bring a new rule which penalises players who duck their head with a free kick against.

He just ignores all the high tackles that are instigated by players in possession who raise their arm.

MORON.




Why is it so difficult for these flogs? Why doesn't he tell the umpires to chill out for half a second before they blow their whistles? They must ask themselves a quick question: Did the player in possession contribute to the tackle going high?

Did he raise his arm? Did he duck? Did lower his knees and roll his shoulder into the tackle?
If so, then don't reward the player with a s**t free kick.

Play on.

 

[Tony Harrison]

They chose a photo of Miles taking the game on and not playing for a free while receiving high contact.
Wonder if they searched for one.

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

This thread is going to end well.

 

[jackess]

Looks like he gets twice as many frees as the next best.

 

[Farang83150]

No Eagles there, lov'n that.

 

[Spook]

Are there any other 40+ blokes on here who remember when we grew up playing footy the umpire calling "You ducked, Play on". I remember this distinctly. The rule has not changed in 100 years, it was the IDIOT Giechen who made the head 'sacrosanct' and caused players to start blighting the game

Even with the arm technique it was the same, it was simply play on. No need for a free either way, just play on. Unfortunately the examples they use in the media are terrible. For example, 1 of Lindsay Thomas Frees om the weekend was well and truly there, he had jumped in the air to get the ball and had not bent over or used his arm, Yes there was the one where he did duck and the Ump paid it.

 

[Tony Harrison]

No Eagles there, lov'n that.

Cos Selwood hasn't been playing .

Campbell saying they are not going to target dropping of the knees because "it's too hard" sounded like an invitation to me.
Don't think they should've said that publicly.

 

[Spook]

Did he raise his arm? Did he duck? Did lower his knees and roll his shoulder into the tackle?
If so, then don't reward the player with a s**t free kick.

Play on.

Yep, spot on and so simple..... just call play on Ump FFS

 

[Tony Harrison]

Are there any other 40+ blokes on here who remember when we grew up playing footy the umpire calling "You ducked, Play on". I remember this distinctly. The rule has not changed in 100 years, it was the IDIOT Giechen who made the head 'sacrosanct' and caused players to start blighting the game

Even with the arm technique it was the same, it was simply play on. No need for a free either way, just play on. Unfortunately the examples they use in the media are terrible. For example, 1 of Lindsay Thomas Frees om the weekend was well and truly there, he had jumped in the air to get the ball and had not bent over or used his arm, Yes there was the one where he did duck and the Ump paid it.

Yep, I remember them calling 'ducked, play on', regularly.

 

[TigerTime88]

So Brendan Gale, what's it like seeing TWO of your players ahead of Thomas on this table?

Inside midfielders v small forward.....always going to attract more frees.

 

[Spook]

Yep, I remember them calling 'ducked, play on', regularly.

The scary thing is that the flogs making these decisions and instructing umpires how to interpret are our generation, surely they remember this as well.

Courage is lifting your arms up BEFORE you are tackled, taking the tackle in the ribs and getting a hand ball out for a fast play. This is what the likes of Voss, Ricciuto, Mathews, Hocking, even slight touch blokes like Kemp did this. What is Selwoods problem, cant take a tackle and get a quick handball out for a fast play?

 

[Westicle]

Stupid article written to intentionally conflate two different issues.

Premise one: People don't like that some players INTENTIONALLY raise their arms/drop their knees whilst being tackled to win free kicks.
Premise two: Anthony Miles averages the most high contact free kicks in the competition.
Conclusion: People shouldn't like Anthony Miles?

Watch how Miles plays. He is in and under the packs usually with his head over the ball. Getting free kicks isn't the issue here, it is forcing or simulating high contact a la Selwood/Josh Kennedy/Jake King. Just tabloid crap.

Maybe I should write an article about Jennifer Phelan with an equally compelling argument:

Premise one: Some women are whores.
Premise two: Your mother is a woman.
Conclusion: Your mother is a whore.

 

[Spook]

Stupid article written to intentionally conflate two different issues.

Premise one: People don't like that some players INTENTIONALLY raise their arms/drop their knees whilst being tackled to win free kicks.
Premise two: Anthony Miles averages the most high contact free kicks in the competition.
Conclusion: People shouldn't like Anthony Miles?

Watch how Miles plays. He is in and under the packs usually with his head over the ball. Getting free kicks isn't the issue here, it is forcing or simulating high contact a la Selwood/Josh Kennedy/Jake King. Just tabloid crap.

Maybe I should write an article about Jennifer Phelan with an equally compelling argument:

Premise one: Some women are whores.
Premise two: Your mother is a woman.
Conclusion: Your mother is a whore.

Mate, don't get defensive, we all agree and know Miles is a in an under and don't see him leaning into players to get a false free.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Miles is pretty crazy. A lot of his are legit bad calls since hes going lower winning the ball rather then dropping his knees or ducking.

 

[clogged]

The AFL always come up with the most complicated rules to solve a problem. Take the rushed behinds issue. If you wanted to stamp out what Joel Bowden and Brent Guerra did, simply make it a free kick if a behind is rushed directly after a kick in, free kick or mark. That way teams in defence have to move the ball on when they have possession, and the only excusable rush behind is from free play. Even so, what they were doing possibly could have been penalised as time wasting.

Instead they make it so the umpire has to determine the intent of the person rushing the behind. And then it confused the deliberate out of bounds rule, as now people believe that if you knock the ball out of bounds under pressure, it isn't a free. That has never been the case.

 

[Tony Harrison]

Mate, don't get defensive, we all agree and know Miles is a in an under and don't see him leaning into players to get a false free.

I think he was targeting the author, not those here.

 

[Back One Out]

It'd be more useful to show what percentage of a player's kicks result from head high frees, and even further, what percentage of their contested possessions.

% of high tackle frees per disposals:

7.4% Anthony Miles
6.0% Joel Selwood
5.7% Lindsay Thomas
5.5% Allen Christensen
4.7% Paul Puopolo
2.5% Trent Cotchin



% of high tackle frees per contested possessions:

16.7% Anthony Miles
13.1% Lindsay Thomas
12.8% Allen Christensen
12.0% Joel Selwood
10.6% Paul Puopolo
5.5% Trent Cotchin



% of high tackle frees per free kicks:

66.1% Anthony Miles
57.7% Allen Christensen
52.6% Paul Puopolo
50.9% Joel Selwood
40.2% Lindsay Thomas
32.1% Trent Cotchin