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Minny picked Jonny Flynn over Steph Curry

It may have been questioned, However

Johnny flynn selected to the NBL all stars game 2012

Steph Curry Not selected 2012 all star game

Who stuffed up the draft now???
 

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Whikst steph curry is the most skilled player and best shooter we have seen, he is not the best player in the league. That mantle still belongs to james. Lebron can and does play every position on the floor,curry can only play guard and point guard. Lebron can defend any player/position in the league, curry cannot.

In a one on one and when lebron is in the mood (doesnt always do it and drives me insane because he is near unstoppable) there is no way stephy is stopping lebron get to the rim.
 
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Whikst steph curry is the most skilled player and best shooter we have seen, he is not the best player in the league. That mantle still belongs to james. Lebron can and does play every position on the floor,curry can only play guard and point guard. Lebron can defend any player/position in the league, curry cannot.

In a one on one and when lebron is in the mood (doesnt always do it and drives me insane because he is near unstoppable) there is no way stephy is stopping lebron get to the rim.

Negative on both counts.

This myth about James being able to defend anyone really needs to stop, playing good defense on someone for a couple of possessions does not mean you can defend anyone.

Curry and multiple other guards with speed and good handles will have LeBron on skates like they do just about every other defender, he cannot keep up with a guard for 48 minutes nor can he bang down low in the post with the bigger post players.

He is not nor has he been some mythical defender that can guard everybody, the only person in the league that you could make a case for is Anthony Davis because he's got length to go with his insane athleticism.
 
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Negative on both counts.

This myth about James being able to defend anyone really needs to stop, playing good defense on someone for a couple of possessions does not mean you can defend anyone.

Curry and multiple other guards with speed and good handles will have LeBron on skates like they do just about every other defender, he cannot keep up with a guard for 48 minutes nor can he bang down low in the post with the bigger post players.

He is not nor has he been some mythical defender that can guard everybody, the only person in the league that you could make a case for is Anthony Davis because he's got length to go with his insane athleticism.
If you had to pick one out of steph and lebron to defend any position including each other, who would you go with ?
 
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When people say he can defend all positions, they dont mean he can shut every player down, they mean when required he is physicaly capable of playing defence on any player. He has athleticism to play on guards, strength to play on pf and centres with high level iq.

If it comes down to it, steph is not physically capable of playing d agains the likes of lebron, griffen, davis , cousins etc. Steph will always heavily rely on help from teammates for his team to be elite in this league
 
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When people say he can defend all positions, they dont mean he can shut every player down, they mean when required he is physicaly capable of playing defence on any player. He has athleticism to play on guards, strength to play on pf and centres with high level iq.

If it comes down to it, steph is not physically capable of playing d agains the likes of lebron, griffen, davis , cousins etc. Steph will always heavily rely on help from teammates for his team to be elite in this league

No he doesn't, he can spot defend occasionally but in no way is he able to keep up with guards for any stretch of time outside a few possessions and he's not strong enough to consistently defend in the low post against bigs.
 
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No he doesn't, he can spot defend occasionally but in no way is he able to keep up with guards for any stretch of time outside a few possessions and he's not strong enough to consistently defend in the low post against bigs.
Your missing the point. With seconds to go, lebron can pick up ANY player for the last plays of the game and play effective defence. It doesnt mean he can defend elite c or elite pgs for an entire game, when required he can.
Curry cannot. He will not stop lebron getting to the hole in an iso, he will not defend davis in the post etc. Lebron is a far more capable 2 way player than curry
 
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When people say he can defend all positions, they dont mean he can shut every player down, they mean when required he is physicaly capable of playing defence on any player. He has athleticism to play on guards, strength to play on pf and centres with high level iq.

If it comes down to it, steph is not physically capable of playing d agains the likes of lebron, griffen, davis , cousins etc. Steph will always heavily rely on help from teammates for his team to be elite in this league

Most players can play defense on most players. Whether they can do it well enough and for long enough is an entirely different case.

Sure Lebron can pinch hit on PG's and Centers when required because he has both strength and athleticism. But over the course of say a quarter, a PG like Steph will have him on skates more often then not and a decent 7 footer will out board him and beat him in the post.

The media wants people to think he can guard anyone all game long but that simply isn't the case.
 
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Most players can play defense on most players. Whether they can do it well enough and for long enough is an entirely different case.

Sure Lebron can pinch hit on PG's and Centers when required because he has both strength and athleticism. But over the course of say a quarter, a PG like Steph will have him on skates more often then not and a decent 7 footer will out board him and beat him in the post.

The media wants people to think he can guard anyone all game long but that simply isn't the case.
How would steph go against said 7 footers.

Up by a point in game 7 of the finals with 8 seconds to go, who would you put your faith into defensively to make a play. Lebron or steph?
 

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How would steph go against said 7 footers.

Up by a point in game 7 of the finals with 8 seconds to go, who would you put your faith into defensively to make a play. Lebron or steph?

The point you're trying to make is ridiculous. Just because Lebron is better than Steph at defending big men doesn't mean he's an amazing defender at all 5 positions. Also, trying to prove that Lebron is a better defender than Steph is just as ridiculous as it's blatantly obvious.
 
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Count to 3 and take a deep breath. Better teammate and leader??

Based on what?
Based on him being in 5 finals series in a row and raising the cavaliers from the duldrums of the nba. Love was s**t last year and irving was already there and could not get them to the post season

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Based on him being in 5 finals series in a row and raising the cavaliers from the duldrums of the nba. Love was s**t last year and irving was already there and could not get them to the post season

A very flawed argument however I respect your opinion. I hope you think Wade and Bosh may of played a part in those championships.

Are you basing being a good leader on results? If so, players who don't make the finals aren't as good as leaders as players who do? Is this what we are saying?
 
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James isn't currently the best player in the game and I can't see how there is even an argument. He may regain it if Curry drops off, but at the moment it's not even close.

And I was in the camp of James still being the best player in the game all of last season despite Curry's great year. I also have LeBron at No 2 on my GOAT list.
 
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Lebron makes his teammates better but Steph doesn't. I've heard it all now.

Steph makes his team better before he even does anything. Every player has more space when he's on the floor due to the defense having to pick him up as soon as he crosses half court. And that's before you even look at what happens when he goes to work.
 
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