Stop the boats. 5k a head. (cont. in Part 2)

[romeohwho]

The bloke from the lowy institute wrote the publication in the second link

http://www.lowyinstitute.org/publications/australia-and-1951-refugee-convention

Yep he is the person I heard this morning-had some interesting points.

 

[Todman]

If Ed Millibrand get up and makes Islamphobia a hate crime, there will be only one place on every refugees list.

 

[Jiska]

For someone who does not care why do you keep reading the thread?

For someone that claims to be an intelligent human being, you display some extremely naive traits at times.

See that word below my username?

 

[Max zero]

For someone that claims to be an intelligent human being, you display some extremely naive traits at times.

See that word below my username?

Don't need to post in a thread to moderate it.

 

[Maggie5]

Don't need to post in a thread to moderate it.

The word you originally used was 'read' not post.
Not sure how one can moderate a thread without reading it.

 

[Jakko]

Interesting article on Europe's people smuggling issues.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ng-facebook-to-lure-migrants-into-italy-trips



“Asylum and immigration to all of Europe – helping people in immigration and asylum” is the tagline for a second Turkish network. A third group, “Travel aid”, offers fake visas and passports, while a fourth smuggler, based in Egypt, calls his group “The way to Europe”, and illustrates its page with an image of Moses parting the Red Sea.


All available on social media.

 

[Jiska]

The word you originally used was 'read' not post.
Not sure how one can moderate a thread without reading it.

Don't confuse him with logic. He won't get it. You should know that by now.

 

[midorigreenwood]

Interesting article on Europe's people smuggling issues.


All available on social media.

It really highlights the rise and rise of technology in fueling migration decisions.

People used to downplay the influence of pull factors with statements like "asylum seekers don't read australian news. The proliferation of cheap mobile phone and internet access around the world means that Australia is no longer some isolated obscure country hidden from everyone.

Thats why the previous and current governments spent so much money advertising to immigrant communities in Australia. They wanted the message to spread to friends and relatives overseas, the target market for people smugglers.

 

[Max zero]

The word you originally used was 'read' not post.
Not sure how one can moderate a thread without reading it.

And the whine post after was that needed?

Not that I expect consistency from you.

 

[Max zero]

Don't confuse him with logic. He won't get it. You should know that by now.

Adding so much yet again.

 

[Maggie5]

And the whine post after was that needed?

Not that I expect consistency from you.

Just clarifying the English language. Actually I thought that your original post was a whine?

 

[Max zero]

It really highlights the rise and rise of technology in fueling migration decisions.

People used to downplay the influence of pull factors with statements like "asylum seekers don't read australian news. The proliferation of cheap mobile phone and internet access around the world means that Australia is no longer some isolated obscure country hidden from everyone.

Thats why the previous and current governments spent so much money advertising to immigrant communities in Australia. They wanted the message to spread to friends and relatives overseas, the target market for people smugglers.

Everything has consequences even with the best of intentions.

Seeing the footage of the 900 drowned off the coast of Libya. Certainly puts the 900 into context.

Since we have no footage of the disasters off our coast makes it easy for us to pretend they didn't happen.

 

[Max zero]

Just clarifying the English language. Actually I thought that your original post was a whine?

Like I said not expecting consistently from you. Call out one but not the other.

 

[Maggie5]

Like I said not expecting consistently from you. Call out one but not the other.

Whatever suits you.

 

[Jiska]

Don't confuse him with logic. He won't get it. You should know that by now.

Adding so much yet again.

It's fair to say that my post in isolation added more than you've contributed to this thread over 386 pages.

 

[midorigreenwood]

Another nail in the coffin against the "turnbacks are offensive to indonesian government" brigade

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...on-boat-towbacks/story-fn9hm1gu-1227352500262

The Indonesian Navy appears to have adopted Canberra’s boats-towback policy despite its government’s persistent and strenuous attacks on Australia’s use of the controversial practice.

The navy has turned back a boat carrying about 400 asylum-seekers, believed to be mostly persecuted Rohingya from Myanmar, towards Malaysia.

It happened early on Monday. Navy spokesman Admiral Manahan Simorangkir confirmed that the boat was stopped in Indonesian waters off Aceh, given water and food, and then directed towards Malaysia, according to the Tempo news service.

Only reason for Labor to be so recalcitrant towards the policy is because of pride and stubbornness.....which is how we got into the mess in the first place.

 

[Maggie5]

Another nail in the coffin against the "turnbacks are offensive to indonesian government" brigade

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...on-boat-towbacks/story-fn9hm1gu-1227352500262
Only reason for Labor to be so recalcitrant towards the policy is because of pride and stubbornness.....which is how we got into the mess in the first place.

Can't read due to paywall but from what you posted, how does Labor figure in this?

 

[Max zero]

Another nail in the coffin against the "turnbacks are offensive to indonesian government" brigade

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...on-boat-towbacks/story-fn9hm1gu-1227352500262



Only reason for Labor to be so recalcitrant towards the policy is because of pride and stubbornness.....which is how we got into the mess in the first place.

Can only deny something that works for so long.

Don't be surprised if Italy starts trying the same thing.

 

[Gough]

You believed the PM when he said the EU was seeking his advice? You aren't interested in some timeshare in Queensland are you?

 

[Max zero]

You believed the PM when he said the EU was seeking his advice? You aren't interested in some timeshare in Queensland are you?

Did I say that?

I said Italy may be willing to try something like our program.

900 people drowning at a time is putting them under a bit of pressure.

 

[GuruJane]

Another nail in the coffin against the "turnbacks are offensive to indonesian government" brigade

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...on-boat-towbacks/story-fn9hm1gu-1227352500262



Only reason for Labor to be so recalcitrant towards the policy is because of pride and stubbornness.....which is how we got into the mess in the first place.

Labor and greencreeps claim "core values" not pride and stubbornness..

 

[Todman]

http://www.islamedianalysis.info/eu...ks-on-targets-in-libya-to-stop-migrant-boats/

The European Union has drawn up plans that could involve military attacks in Libya to try to curb the influx of migrants across the Mediterranean by targeting the trafficking networks. It is to launch a bid on Monday to secure a UN mandate for armed action in Libya’s territorial waters...........


Suddenly Tony and Scott are more humane.

 

[CLUBMEDhurst]

http://www.islamedianalysis.info/eu...ks-on-targets-in-libya-to-stop-migrant-boats/

The European Union has drawn up plans that could involve military attacks in Libya to try to curb the influx of migrants across the Mediterranean by targeting the trafficking networks. It is to launch a bid on Monday to secure a UN mandate for armed action in Libya’s territorial waters...........


Suddenly Tony and Scott are more humane.

The problem: asylum seekers fleeing Libya, due to instability resulting from NATO attacks on Libya

The solution: NATO attacks on Libya

 

[Maggie5]

The problem: asylum seekers fleeing Libya, due to instability resulting from NATO attacks on Libya

The solution: NATO attacks on Libya

Please, no logic allowed in this thread.

 

[Jakko]

Malaysia turns back a boat.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-back-migrant-boat-with-more-than-500-aboard