This is what the Academies are trying to counter. The 'Go Home' factor which destroyed the Lions and is possibly going to tear the Giants apart as well.
This is WHY the northern states need a local pool of talent.
Swans' academy.
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This is what the Academies are trying to counter. The 'Go Home' factor which destroyed the Lions and is possibly going to tear the Giants apart as well.
This is WHY the northern states need a local pool of talent.
They send me emails and Im on the other side of the Anzac Bridge
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Haha emails are nice. True.They send me emails and Im on the other side of the Anzac Bridge
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So?
We have a rather large interstate base when it comes to players. What is hopefully going to be helped with academies. As such the go home factor is 100% a factor.
in saying that all the big players have come out and said how happy they are here so. Who knows....
The Falcon Strike
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We have a go home factor as well... We also have a high cost of living which our rookies don't get any support..
We also fund the WAFL and all the players that come from it...
Tell me again how preferred access to Academy players is in favour of the comp as a whole.
Even if I accepted the academy players for GWS - there is zero right for Swans and/or Lions to have access to these players. Not when the other clubs can't run a similar academy.
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Have you read through the thread. All 4 clubs are in favour of the AFL taking over and the players going into the draft. Drop the woe is me....
Just to add yes you do have go home factor. You also have an entire state of kids who want to play footy....
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A local pool of talent you don't want to share.
A bit like the local pools of talent in WA, SA and Vic. Oh, nevermind...
NO ....
Our preferred option is for the AFL to fund the Academies and for the talent to be available to the competition equally. That is a win for everybody.
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You guys can field an entire 22 of first rounders. Cry me a river.
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According to the trades and rumours threads they are all going "home". Sooooo
besides which. We all want an uncompromised draft dont we?
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According to this thread AFL funded grassroots footy development in NSW didn't work, but the Swans academy does, and since the Swans run and fund the academy the deserve first dibs on the players... but now you're happy for the AFL to run the show? OK.
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I actually want an uncompromised draft, hard salary cap for all, no ambassador payments outside of cap,no priority picks/fs/academy.
Sink or swim.
You honestly think the "local pools of talent" in Qld & NSW are equivalent to those in the other states? Nah, didn't think so.
There is a blue print now on how to do it. So yes - it would be awesome if the AFL would fund it.
But presumably not a national competition?
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Good strawman.
If your talent pool is (and will remain) so shallow why don't you want to share it?
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I want a competition that is national, but under a free market. Don't tell me the swans are struggling cause they're in a NRL state, they just had the two biggest free agents knock on their door, and are sponsored by minnows of the corporate world, like QBE and Volkswagen (who owns Audi, benleigh, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Porsche, seat and skoda) - a little bit better than, say, Adelaide and Balfours pies.
That lis actually correct, the Swans were against the idea in the first place and it took a lot of work and research from the AFL to convince them of the academy system (why would we bother when we can just draft from the established junior systems of WA, SA and VIC and not pay a cent for it).
But the AFL convinced the Swans that there was a good pool of elite talent willing to take up the game and stick with it, if they had a clear path way to learn the game under good coaches and potentially be drafted to play in their own state.
So they took it on, ploughed money and serious time into it and surprise, surprise it might actually work.
The problem is, you see this as an equalisation issue, but the AFL does not and knows that we are going to continue to have issues with the spread of draftable elite talent (which causes problems for retention and trading for the Northern clubs) unless it is addressed with a system to grow the pool of talent in the Northern states.
Because the AFL made us pay for the development (unlike the other states who don't fund their junior path ways) so why should we share it?
Tell you what, we'll swap - you can have all the talent that comes out of eastern Sydney, we'll have what comes out of western Perth, deal?
How much largesse, how much of a competitive advantage do the Swans want before they even they acknowledge it has gone too far?
grimlock
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Bit hard to quantify when the Swans haven't recruited any Academy players under the bidding system.
You have the same access as we have to it.
Simba Moyo
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Incorrect. How many players come from WA? Now compare that to players that are drafted from NSW and QLD, combined. Every year WA/SA/Vic clubs have access to top tier local talent. Hell, West Coast even downgraded their pick and got the local boy they wanted. The northern state clubs don't have the luxury of this.
