I would say McGlynn as well, he may not be a front and square cumber but that is by no means a bad thing. If I recall, when he came to the Swans he began has a small forward who progressively worked into the midfield, in 2012 when the Swans had a slathering of goal kickers he was always one who popped up in the forward line and his defensive pressure was never missed...
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I would say McGlynn as well, he may not be a front and square cumber but that is by no means a bad thing. If I recall, when he came to the Swans he began has a small forward who progressively worked into the midfield, in 2012 when the Swans had a slathering of goal kickers he was always one who popped up in the forward line and his defensive pressure was never missed...
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Agree. Jack is a very good prospect and was one of the best in the reserves quite a few times.
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I agree Punts we need a crumber.
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I think you are wrong about Jack. He will be a good player and you can see where they are going here. SPEED & DELIVERY/FINISHING! People seem to think we have depth problems. I don't agree. We will draft a tall at 37. We will probably take one in the Rookie Draft as well if not two. We have Xav, Aliir, Davis & Reid who can go back. Just need to draft a young KPD or two to bring on in the next two to three years. We might even wait until next yeat to draft a second. If AJ doesn't come good we will be looking for another HB as well next year.
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McGlynn just finished his best season as a Swan playing a new role in the midfield. Remember how before his new midfield role he was questionable as best 22? Stick to what is working for him.
Knowing the Swans, they will continue playing Jetta, so just make him a crumbing small forward. Or either Jack brother would work too.
Knowing the Swans, they will continue playing Jetta, so just make him a crumbing small forward. Or either Jack brother would work too.
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He showed a bit off HBF in the last half of the season. He was lazy in his defensive work so they threw him back to HBF & it worked. He beats hid opponent 9/10. That is probably the reason. If AJ doesn't come good he could still be handy.
Good info from you. Dot get me wrong if love to see Marsh step up and play some good senior footy. He has some great attributes fro what I saw in his draft year but like most of us heard big things at re start of last year but we didn't see or hear
Much more.
Is there any chance he could step up and be that HBF player?
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Maybe but the ball is in his court so to speak. He wasn't going to get into our mids with Heeney, who is a real bruiser, Mitchell, Perris & Robinson ahead of him joining Lloyd, Parker, Joey, Birdie, Kizza, Macca, Hannas & Benny. The midfield is deep. Add Hiscox, BJ, Jetts & Cunningham and it is very deep.
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Christ you blokes are going to tear us a new arsehole in Round 1.
At least buy us dinner first eh?
At least buy us dinner first eh?
Christ you blokes are going to tear us a new arsehole in Round 1.
At least buy us dinner first eh?
Not sure mate we always start the season like snails heck we lost to GWS and a truly woeful Collingwood you are a huge chance.
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A fully fit 22 would help too, I mean round 1 last year to be dead set fair how many blokes were underdone or injured?
These are the clearance stats of 2014 (in brackets is games played)
Kennedy (23) - 126
Parker (25) - 104
K.Jack (24) - 82
Hannebery (19) - 72
Bird (21) - 68
McGlynn (19)- 60
McVeigh (25) - 54
Pyke (19) - 40
Jetta (25) - 27
T.Mitchell (6 games) - 25
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...and-callum-mills/story-fnp04d70-1227129996858
To me what immediately stands out is how much higher the stats are for both Kennedy and Mitchell. If Mitchell played 24 games like Jack did he would have got around 100 clearances and we have to remember that Mitchell was dropped for poor form at the start of the year so in some of those 6 games he was well below his best.
Kennedy (23) - 126
Parker (25) - 104
K.Jack (24) - 82
Hannebery (19) - 72
Bird (21) - 68
McGlynn (19)- 60
McVeigh (25) - 54
Pyke (19) - 40
Jetta (25) - 27
T.Mitchell (6 games) - 25
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...and-callum-mills/story-fnp04d70-1227129996858
To me what immediately stands out is how much higher the stats are for both Kennedy and Mitchell. If Mitchell played 24 games like Jack did he would have got around 100 clearances and we have to remember that Mitchell was dropped for poor form at the start of the year so in some of those 6 games he was well below his best.
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Tommy is a gun .
First full pre season since joining will hold him well in 2015 ala Rohan also
First full pre season since joining will hold him well in 2015 ala Rohan also
Not that we really are short of them but I was thinking today that Hiscox could have a place in the best 22 in 2015 as a tagger. He is arguably the best endurance athlete the AFL has ever seen so in theory the Swans could stick him on an outside player of the opposition and Hiscox will outrun and out work him. He would be great on a Brad Hill type for instance.
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Not sure about next year and I flat out hate full time taggers as nowadays you have to find the pill! Would rather pump games into Heeney, etc than to play a full on tag role. Bird is our tagger anyway.
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Is it too soon for me to lobby for Bird to be dropped again? Jetta is another, not exactly sure what his role change has been, I just call it playing terribly. Structually I think we will se a change this year. Would not surprise me at all if we see Nankervis play and Reid playing the tall lose non-rebounding free man in defence roll he is so astute at. Would like to see games into both Hewett and Heeney early on.
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Bird is such a vanilla player.
Does enough not to get dropped, doesn't do enough to standout every week.
Does enough not to get dropped, doesn't do enough to standout every week.
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With our trade ban and the age issues in our backline, we need to fast track the development of some of our kids. I would throw the likes of jones straight into thr backline in round 1. He has already showed he is capable of playing senior footy this year. Plus it would allow the club to manage shaw through the year.
Also guys like xr, allir, nankervis and hewett should be periodically played through thr year to give them much needed experience. We cannot afford a long term injury/ retirement to ted or reg and then throw in a player with 0 experience into a full time role.
2015 will be a difficult one for the coaching staff, they will have to balance between playing for a flag and blooding youngsters
Also guys like xr, allir, nankervis and hewett should be periodically played through thr year to give them much needed experience. We cannot afford a long term injury/ retirement to ted or reg and then throw in a player with 0 experience into a full time role.
2015 will be a difficult one for the coaching staff, they will have to balance between playing for a flag and blooding youngsters
I don't want to get into another Bird value argument but he does enough to poll top 10 in B&F's. Would likely have had a third straight top 10 finish in a team finishing the season in or after a PF had he not got injured late in the year.
The thing is that I have no problem with the Swans having one hard tagger and I also like the idea of blooding some of our younger guys using the tagger role. If Hiscox can find the ball enough when the Swans are attacking then I really could see him getting his opportunity as a tagger.
I don't think Bird can really be classified as a hard tagger though. Through the middle of the year and last when he has been playing at his best he has been running alongside someone but winning a lot of ball himself. His games against Essendon at the SCG, Essendon at Etihad and Geelong at the SCG I think show how good he can be but most other weeks he hovers around the 20-24 possession mark and does his job very astutely.
He just shouldn't play as the sub. That I think we can all agree on. Longmire must have felt like he had no option after Bird had proven his fitness and he didn't want to drop Lloyd out of the starting side for the finals, but I think most would agree that Bird doesn't have the requisite explosiveness, pace to be an effective sub.
He could become a player that gets edged out by the likes of more developed Mitchell, Heeney, Mills (given we get him) in a few years but for now he deserves his place in the side without question to me.
He just shouldn't play as the sub. That I think we can all agree on. Longmire must have felt like he had no option after Bird had proven his fitness and he didn't want to drop Lloyd out of the starting side for the finals, but I think most would agree that Bird doesn't have the requisite explosiveness, pace to be an effective sub.
He could become a player that gets edged out by the likes of more developed Mitchell, Heeney, Mills (given we get him) in a few years but for now he deserves his place in the side without question to me.
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Don't want him dropped , don't want him traded so don't take this the wrong way but imo Bird will be the one that gets pushed out for the likes of Mitchell , Heeney , Hewett etc IF form warrants it.
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