Oppo Camp The alternate Dangerfield Thread: including rumours, sauces, movies and more

[MRB37]

Chris Tarrant?

Josh Carr went back to Port for 2 years after leaving for Fremantle too.

 

[Bovo]

Yup. So that means we can get Trent Ormand-Alan back!!!

 

[JP Sauce]

Justin Murphy went to Carlton twice in amongst a handful of other clubs.

Richmond - Carlton - Geelong - Carlton - Essendon

 

[Golumless]

Has there ever been an instance of an AFL player leaving a club, and then returning to the original club as a player? Just a thought

Peter Bell did, left Freo to win premierships at Norf and then came back.

 

[GrommoT]

Has there ever been an instance of an AFL player leaving a club, and then returning to the original club as an AFL player? Just a thought **

So far (thx Bacon8, Enviable Tradition & JP Sauce):

Trent Croad
Peter bell
Chris Tarrant
Josh Carr
Brent Montgomery
Nathan Krakour
Justin Murphy

** ie. Danger to come back?

 

[FR0GGY]

we want danger for the next 2 years not his last 2 years.

 

[Bacon8]

We shall get Ed Curnow back

 

[happy_knackers]

Are Crows fans annoyed with the system if Geelong lands Dangerfield, Henderson and Selwood all for the cost of a first rounder??? Would you guys be in favour of change of the FA system if it goes down like that? Kind of hurts a couple of other teams in order to boost a team that has been up there for a while. Not sure it was how the system was supposed to work. Chuck in the Hawks and Swans being previously major beneficiaries, its probably not how the system was intended to work.

nah, i think we would all be really happy for everyone concerned. we are really just here to nurse the young 'un through their formative years and it always hurts to see them leave the nest and make it in the real word, but if you could see their faces, it just makes us so proud.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Are Crows fans annoyed with the system if Geelong lands Dangerfield, Henderson and Selwood all for the cost of a first rounder??? Would you guys be in favour of change of the FA system if it goes down like that? Kind of hurts a couple of other teams in order to boost a team that has been up there for a while. Not sure it was how the system was supposed to work. Chuck in the Hawks and Swans being previously major beneficiaries, its probably not how the system was intended to work.

Under the current socialist system of equality the FA system simply doesnt work. What has proven to be shown is that the recent successful clubs are attracting a majority of players, thats not the clubs fault as its a sales pitch the players cant ignore. I think it needs to be abolished in its present format or rules changed to exclude the top 4 sides from the previous year. It doesnt work under our system. If they did that, perhaps they could abolish compensation picks. Until then, even though we got Betts I think the system stinks.

 

[Bovo]

Not necessarily a fan of free agency in it's current format myself. Just curious as to whether Adelaide fans re-assess what they think of it because of this. You were winners with Betts and now potentially losers. It can change perspectives very quickly.

Nope. We will match and then the fun begins.

 

[Mattrox]

Not necessarily a fan of free agency in it's current format myself. Just curious as to whether Adelaide fans re-assess what they think of it because of this. You were winners with Betts and now potentially losers. It can change perspectives very quickly.

Except Carlton had every opportunity to match. Eddie would have stayed if they did. However, Malthouse wanted his overpriced love-child there so badly they let him go.

We actively want to keep Dangerfield and if he is to go we want to be in a position to match and trade if at all possible.

 

[MRB37]

It hasn't always worked previously, but in the NBA they've done a good job with keeping marquee players in smaller markets by giving each team the option to sign a player to a "super max" contract. Basically it means they can give 1 guy on their team 5 years instead of the maximum of 4 years like every other team and more money per year than any other side. You'll still get guys who leave teams for slightly less, or take less to keep their team together, but it's worked well for teams like Minnesota who've previously had retention issues on their marquee stars. NBA does have the bonus of their restricted FA's really being restricted though, so if the team matches the player has to stay.

Of course there's no sort of salary structure in place in terms on max money/years yet in the AFL, but if you get into situations where for example we could offer Danger a maximum of $1.5 million a year for 5 years, while everyone else is limited to 4 years and $1 million a year you're looking at guys weighing up $4 million VS $7.5 million, which is a big difference. But if that guy wants to then leave that sort of cash on the table, that's on him still and he can leave.

I also think they need to go the way of NBA on draft pick contracts too, with 1st rounders being signed for 3 years with an option for a 4th, instead of just 2, so clubs can keep 'em around a bit longer, or at least have a bit more leverage if they do want to leave after a couple of years.

 

[1990crow]

I think if there's going to be compensation, and there should be, because the elite teams are are abusing the system and bullying the poor teams, the players actual value should come into account. Like for example, Dangerfield. Pick 1. Frawley. Pick 15. Franklin, pick 1. That way players get to where they want, clubs aren't completely ripped off.

 

[Boxhead_31]

Has there ever been an instance of an AFL player leaving a club, and then returning to the original club as a player? Just a thought

Trent Croad

 

[adelaidecrows]

Dinner party was simply made up to shut down talk about dangers future

Alexis says its so


What do crows people think of being hoodwinked

clearly you have stopped reading our board.

I'm firmly in the "gone" camp. The news from the dinner party was information to shut a few questions about the future down.

Actually it wasnt troll lady! The time line was well and truly before you and your fellow trollics from Geelong decided to lose some IQ points

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Mahlepi - pants on fire.

My information at the time was 100% legitimate and correct. However, I also believe the infomation was told to 'my source' to stop them from pestering her.

If you had any friends, you would know some people tell 'little white lies' to avoid any more pestering. You have never said something to someone else, just to shut them up?

 

[little graham]

Are Crows fans annoyed with the system if Geelong lands Dangerfield, Henderson and Selwood all for the cost of a first rounder??? Would you guys be in favour of change of the FA system if it goes down like that? Kind of hurts a couple of other teams in order to boost a team that has been up there for a while. Not sure it was how the system was supposed to work. Chuck in the Hawks and Swans being previously major beneficiaries, its probably not how the system was intended to work.

No. because a lot understand how the system works. Adelaide have been paying your bills and most other clubs bills for twenty five years.

Betts and Jacobs are here, because of our merits, nothing else. You win some, you lose some. We're in some form, at the right time of year, getting big home crowds, some local lads will be watching that, will want to come back to SA for that.

You can't say you have any merits, considering your asking the AFL for financial assistance again.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

please stop tagging me
after calling us morons why do you persit in tagging and pming me
dont your get it "NO mens NO"

Did you read the quote from post number #1219?

And, I've never ever sent you a PM.

 

[manboob]

The world was fan-boying over Godra.

You've no idea!

"Moooooodddrrraaaaaaaa" when ever you punished a step-ladder in kick-to-kick

 

[Seeds]

I think if there's going to be compensation, and there should be, because the elite teams are are abusing the system and bullying the poor teams, the players actual value should come into account. Like for example, Dangerfield. Pick 1. Frawley. Pick 15. Franklin, pick 1. That way players get to where they want, clubs aren't completely ripped off.

you do realise what you are proposing benefits the elite teams relative to the current system? hawthorn get pick 1 instead of the pick 20 they got and Melbourne get a pick 15 instead of the top 5 pick they got.

 

[FyfeToAdelaide]

you do realise what you are proposing benefits the elite teams relative to the current system? hawthorn get pick 1 instead of the pick 20 they got and Melbourne get a pick 15 instead of the top 5 pick they got.

Yea because they lost players worth that amount.. Melbourne will manage to stay dwelling no matter what picks they have anyway.

 

[jenny61_99]

Not necessarily a fan of free agency in it's current format myself. Just curious as to whether Adelaide fans re-assess what they think of it because of this. You were winners with Betts and now potentially losers. It can change perspectives very quickly.

I have never been a fan of free agency from the get go, for this very reason. It changes the whole landscape, makes it even more money focused (which is already obscene enough as it is). Basically, really good one club players will be rarer to find, and that's a shame.

 

[xchadders]

I have never been a fan of free agency from the get go, for this very reason. It changes the whole landscape, makes it even more money focused (which is already obscene enough as it is). Basically, really good one club players will be rarer to find, and that's a shame.

while i am 100% against free agency, i think your view is way to simplistic.
the pay is only obscene because, we, as supporters keep turning up, buying merch and demanding it be on tv, which drives up the bargaining for tv rights. which all results in more money for the players. if you didnt want them to get paid more, you can vote with your feet.

secondly, without knowing each players pay, i dont think most of them are leaving for money. sure betts, franklin and thomas have. but i doubt lake or frawley or others have. maybe they just want success and are willing to take a pay cut to enjoy that?

but yes, there will be less one club players. and i find that disappointing.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Yeah I am a big fan of one club players and the "club" not the heartless cold franchise. I think its not in the interest of the game. Its about tribalism and not corporations.

The AFL should have a once off bonus payment for players who stay at the one club for at least 12 years and are over 32 Hypothetically $1m. Just to discourage players from leaving.

 

[Mahlepi]

Yeah I would love some form of concept like that or a certain portion of your salary being outside the salary cap if you have served so many years. Allows the existing team to pay more in theory.

I.e. maybe after 5 years, 10% if outside of salary cap, 6 years, 12%, 7 years 14% etc.

they do its called cola