Health The current outbreak of Ebola Virus in West Africa is now the largest ever recorded

We can get back to the real world now.

SB is having a rest from this thread.
Why is he even allowed to post in this board? There is a board specifically made for him to sprout his s**t in.
 
Not Ebola, but probably more relevant to Australia particularly the north.
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/...firms-first-fatal-drug-resistant-tb-infection
Two weeks ago the Torres Strait islander died in Cairns hospital from the mutant strain of tuberculosis that originates from across the border in Papua New Guinea.

“She was a close contact of a known TB case with the drug resistant strain on Saibai Island a couple of years ago, so in reality this is the first Australian citizen to Australian citizen transfer of this particular strain of TB,” said Dr Stephen Vincent, director of thoracic medicine at the Cairns Base hospital.

In PNG tuberculosis is at crisis levels, especially in Western Province bordering Australia’s Torres Strait in far-north Queensland.

Hundreds of people cross the international border every day. Papua New Guineans come to trade goods and Torres Strait islanders go to visit family but in recent years they have been carrying an unwelcome passenger.
 

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Getting a bit tired of seeing the bleating about Australia not sending personnel.

There's no realistic way to bring them back to Australia if they get infected, closer countries haven't agreed to treat them and leaving them to be treated in West African conditions is just irresponsible.
 

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Getting a bit tired of seeing the bleating about Australia not sending personnel.

There's no realistic way to bring them back to Australia if they get infected, closer countries haven't agreed to treat them and leaving them to be treated in West African conditions is just irresponsible.

It's just become a nothing argument, which i suspect is more about preventing us taking the ideologically unsatisfactory step of closing our borders to travellers from affected regions rather than practical help- there are 20 or so countries in Europe who have as many health personnel as we do, and they are next door. It makes far more logical sense for us to put up cash and equipment - if the government wanted to do a levy to fund assistance on the scale of the Indonesian tsunami, I don't think many people would oppose it. Alternatively, we could add just as much value by sending people to assist countries like india or Indonesia in preparing their crisis management responses for when isolated cases crop up there.

On another topic, the US responses over the last few days have been nothing short of extraordinary- if that is the gold standard of how a first world country responds to an outbreak, we are all doomed.
 

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If there were a doomsday movie about a killer virus that spread in to America because of how Ebola actually infected the US Nurse, it would get canned for being absurdly impossible
 
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It's just become a nothing argument, which i suspect is more about preventing us taking the ideologically unsatisfactory step of closing our borders to travellers from affected regions rather than practical help- there are 20 or so countries in Europe who have as many health personnel as we do, and they are next door. It makes far more logical sense for us to put up cash and equipment - if the government wanted to do a levy to fund assistance on the scale of the Indonesian tsunami, I don't think many people would oppose it. Alternatively, we could add just as much value by sending people to assist countries like india or Indonesia in preparing their crisis management responses for when isolated cases crop up there.

On another topic, the US responses over the last few days have been nothing short of extraordinary- if that is the gold standard of how a first world country responds to an outbreak, we are all doomed.

Or you know just relax and don't waste money on it at all.
currently as stated previously TB is currently having an outbreak as is
Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus
Marburg
Cholera

and cholera and avian flu are on the rise.

but also polio is now being reported in
the congo
Gabon
Equatorial Guinea
Cameroon
Syria.

these things happen, stop trying to fix the world and take a step back and realise we can't do anything about it. the outbreak will subside as it always does.
 

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MERS has slowed to a trickle of cases and Marburg appears to have been an isolated case, while Ebola is continuing to rise at an exponential rate and has caused extraordinary chaos.

I'm confident we're safe, and the US will be fine despite its stuff-ups, but the three main affected countries are a shambles (even more than usual) and will pose a substantial threat to their neighbours even if air travel is cut off.
 
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of course there shitholes with bugger all sanitation or education.

People will like have died of some other virus sooner or later, christ imagine if one of these countries had a deadly airborne virus, They'd all be dead by now.

but the fact is it's taken 3 months to from 8000-10000 that's not out of control, concerning but the infection rate has dropped sharply from what it was. It's not out of control it's far removed from there's no point pissing away fund's on the off chance someone in india or indonesia get's because we both know those countries also have piss poor health and no amount of money we spend trying to educate them or prepare them will stop it.

As long as people live in Squalor and hold Superstitious beliefs while largely rejecting medical science viruses will spread.
no crisis funding can change a culture.
 

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It hasn't taken 3 months to go from 8000 to 10000.

The total figures were 1,975 as of 11 August, 4,846 as of 10 September and 8,997 as of 12 October.

That's a doubling every month - and the figures are thought to be grossly underestimated due to the complete breakdown of the healthcare systems.

It may not cause a big outbreak here, but having to be constantly on watch for potential cases, and having to isolate and trace the contacts of any suspected case, will be an ongoing burden.
 

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Depends on how many more imported cases they get, I suppose. Having two nurses infected by a patient doesn't inspire much confidence, though hopefully it will ensure better procedures for the next event.

It's great that Nigeria managed to contain it after some reckless actions - the initial patient lying about his exposure to Ebola and assaulting staff when his infection was confirmed, and then a doctor secretly treating another patient and proceeding to not only get infected, but to then infect others.

They took some pretty extreme measures, including shutting down schools for quite a while, but it seems to have worked.
 

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First confirmed case in Mali - an infant brought from Liberia after her father died, and a comfirmed case in New York - a doctor who came back from West Africa and didn't follow quarantine. Sigh.
 

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lol @ a doctor not following quarantine

hopefully he didnt see any patients, imagine the damage he could do seeing a days worth of people while being contagious

Infant also has a decent chance at spreading given that so many people cuddle/carry/kiss infants and they could show symptons for a long time and people just assuming its general baby sickness
 

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First confirmed case in Mali - an infant brought from Liberia after her father died, and a comfirmed case in New York - a doctor who came back from West Africa and didn't follow quarantine. Sigh.
America's handling of it has been quite... responsive, very lucky its not airborne
 
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