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Discussion in 'Port Adelaide - Est. 1870' started by Quadgeddoncross, Oct 3, 2013.

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  1. Quadgeddoncross

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    Inspired from this thread from last year - The evolution of your first 22 as the offseason progresses

    The idea is to post your best 22 of the players we currently have to our list, and then add to it as we sign players. Ergo, you can putt Matt White and Daniel Flynn in your teams right now, but don't put Polec or Bontempelli in yet. If we sign them, then you can update your 22 with Polec or Bontempelli.

    Feel free to do the reserves 22 as well.

    As Tribey said last year,
    My first go:

    Port Adelaide (AFL):
    B: Tom Jonas ~ Jackson Trengove ~ Tom Logan
    HB: Cameron O'Shea ~ Alipate Carlile ~ Matthew Broadbent
    C: Brad Ebert ~ Oliver Wines ~ Kane Cornes
    HF: Justin Westhoff ~ John Butcher ~ Robbie Gray
    F: Chad Wingard ~ Jay Schulz ~ Angus Monfries
    R: Matthew Lobbe ~ Travis Boak ~ Hamish Hartlett
    IC: Domenic Cassisi ~ Jarrad Redden ~ Andrew Moore
    Sub: Matthew White/Kane Mitchell/Aaron Young

    Some notes:
    - Wingard to spend more time in the midfield than he has been.
    - Redden to spend a sizeable amount of time up forward as a KPF and rotate ruck with Lobbe when needed.
    - We absolutely need Butcher to improve. Schulz won't be around forever and may not even last the year if Butcher doesn't take some of the heat from him.
    - Pittard unlucky to miss out. I love Jasper, and I reckon he'll be a star for Port Adelaide, but he just hasn't shown enough as of yet to justify a first 22 inclusion.

    Port Adelaide Reserves (SANFL):
    B: Campbell Heath ~ Tom Clurey ~ Lewis Stevenson
    HB: Daniel Flynn ~ Jack Hombsch ~ ???????
    C: Sam Colquhoun ~ Aaron Young ~ Jasper Pittard
    HF: Ben Newton ~ ??????? ~ Paul Stewart
    F: Cameron Hitchcock ~ Mason Shaw ~ Brendon Ah Chee
    R: Brent Renouf ~ Jake Neade ~ Kane Mitchell
    IC: ??????? ~ ??????? ~ ??????? ~ ???????
     

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  2. port_adelaide_1870

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    Pittard > Logan
    Other than that :thumbsu:
     
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  3. It Just Is

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    Good thread.

    At this stage my best 22 still has a few spots up for grabs.

    B: Tom Jonas ~ Alipate Carlile ~ Jasper Pittard
    HB: Cameron O'Shea ~ Jackson Trengove ~ Matthew Broadbent
    C: Brad Ebert ~ Oliver Wines ~ Kane Cornes
    HF: Justin Westhoff ~ ?????????~ Chad Wingard
    F: Robbie Gray ~ Jay Schulz ~ Angus Monfries
    R: Matthew Lobbe ~ Travis Boak ~ Hamish Hartlett
    IC: Domenic Cassisi ~


    Leading contenders and what I think they need to work on.

    John Butcher - Needs an injury free run and to start clunking them again
    Jarrad Redden - Get fit, work on forward craft.
    Matthew White - Curious to see his role, yet to be seen how effective he'll be tagging outside runners.
    Aaron Young - Bulk up, play 4 quarters.
    Andrew Moore - Play 4 quarters, get more football.
    Campbell Heath - Lock down smalls?
    Jack Hombsch - Most unlucky player not to be in my team at this stage. Stay injury free.
    Tom Logan - Does all he can, no doubt will play lots of footy in 2014. Like the last 7 years hoping more skilled players go past him.
    Sam Colquhoun - Lets get physical. Physical.
    Jake Neade - 4 quarter performances, hit the scoreboard.
     
  4. Quadgeddoncross

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    Mmmm... forgot about Hombsch. Hugely talented and huge potential, but how do we slot him into our back line?
     
  5. FallingLiefs

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    B: Tom Jonas ~ Alipate Carlile ~ Cameron O'Shea
    HB: Jasper Pittard ~ Jackson Trengove ~ Matthew Broadbent
    C: Brad Ebert ~ Oliver Wines ~ Chad Wingard
    HF: Justin Westhoff ~ Jay Schulz ~ Angus Monfries
    F: Jake Neade ~ Jarrad Redden ~ Robbie Gray
    R: Matthew Lobbe ~ Travis Boak ~ Hamish Hartlett
    IC: Domenic Cassisi ~ Kane Cornes ~ Andrew Moore
    Sub: Aaron Young
    Neade's probably a shock but he'll start round 1 and hopefully extend through a few more games than the 2-3 he could manage in a row this season.
    I expect Colquhoun to overtake Cassisi, hope for Butcher to overtake Redden and White would push someone out of the 22.
    in my view our depth ends there with Hombsch + Logan the end of it, the rest are coming good/not good enough. Depth horribly shallow, 22 not too bad though with only real weakness our second tall.
     
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    Horses for courses I'd say. Would need him against the two Sydney teams with their 4 prong tall forward lines.

    Your 22 would be short against them, but fine against teams like Freo/Carlton/Dogs/Adelaide etc.
     
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    Off the top of my head...

    O'Shea-Carlile-Jonas
    Broadbent-Trengove-Pittard
    Ebert-Wines-Hartlett
    Monfries-Schulz-Wingard
    Gray-Butcher-Westhoff
    Lobbe-Boak-Kane

    I/C: Young-Moore-Redden
    Sub: Our 1st round pick/Youngy
     
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    Who would've thought 2 years ago we would be struggling to reasonably fit all our great and potentially great players in the one team! Exciting times ahead.
     
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    B: Tom Jonas ~ Alipate Carlile ~ Cameron O'Shea
    HB: Tom Clurey ~ Jackson Trengove ~ Matthew Broadbent
    C: Brad Ebert ~ Travis Boak ~ Chad Wingard
    HF: Robbie gray ~ John Butcher ~ Matt White
    F: Angus Monfries ~ Jay Schulz ~ Justin Westhoff
    R: Matthew Lobbe ~ Kane Cornes ~ Hamish Hartlett
    IC: Jarred Redden ~ Oliver Wines ~ Andrew Moore
    Sub: Aaron Young
     
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    I think it's pretty straight forward now but it'll obviously get harder after we are done with off season recruiting.
     
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    Our depth will be a lot stronger than last year! Love it!!
     

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  12. Quadgeddoncross

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    Tom Clurey already? Has his SANFL reserves form impressed you that much? :p
     
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  13. brok boucher

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    I dont watch SANFL but if he can get fit through pre-season and get some form he might make his way into our 22 but that is a maybe it isnt a certainty that he will be in our team next year.
     
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    F: Flynn - Flynn - Flynn
    HF: Flynn - Flynn - Flynn
    C: Flynn - Flynn - Flynn
    HB: O'Shea - Flynn - Pittard
    B: Flynn - Flynn - Flynn
    R: Flynn - Flynn - Flynn
    INT: Flynn - Flynn - Flynn
    SUB: Flynn

    Coach: Ian Mckeown
     
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    B: O'Shea - Carlile - Jonas
    HB: Hombsch - Trengove - Broadbent
    C: Ebert - Wines - Hartlett
    HF: Monfries - Schulz - Wingard
    F: Gray - Butcher - Westhoff
    R: Lobbe - Cornes - Boak
    I: Moore, Pittard, White, Neade

    Notes:
    I expect Neade and Pittard to be massive improvers. Neade to play more midfield. Colquhoun can easily replace Neade/White though.
    If he doesn't get injured, Hombsch should make our back 6 with dominating preseason/nab cup games. Also interchange cap might mean we have Trengove play as the second ruck
    I don't think Cassisi or Logan will be first 22 until later in the season.
    Butcher can easily lose his spot to Redden or another mid, pushing Trengove to play forward/second ruck.
    White is probably first 22 since we've given him 3 years and is someone Ken targeted.
     
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    B: O'Shea - Carlile - Jonas
    HB: ?????? - Trengove - Broadbent
    C: Ebert - Wines - Hartlett
    HF: Monfries - Schulz - Wingard
    F: Gray - ??????? - Westhoff
    R: Lobbe - Cornes - Boak
    I: Moore, ???????, ????? , ??????

    This is the players that will 100% be in the team, ???? mean the postitions that are still up for grabs. The missing positions will depend on pre season
     
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    B: T. Jonas, A. Carlile, T. Hombsch
    HB: C. O'Shea, J. Trengove, M. Broadbent
    C: H. Hartlett, O. Wines, K. Cornes
    HF: C. Wingard, J. Westhoff, A. Monfries
    F: R. Gray, J. Schulz, J. Redden
    R: M. Lobbe, T. Boak, B. Ebert
    Int: A. Moore, A. Young, D. Cassisi
    Sub: M. White

    Any of Pittard (if we get more of the Pittard we saw in the finals and less of the Pittard we saw in the last few rounds of the H&A season then he'll be a definite in), Colquhoun (see Pittard, except vice versa), Heath, Stevenson, Neade, Mitchell, Butcher, Logan and hopefully Polec could easily slot into that 22 without me batting an eyelid. It's nice to have depth again.
     
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    F: Monfries - Schulz - Gray
    HF: Westhoff - Redden - Wingard
    C: Cornes - Boak - Ebert
    HB: Broadbent - Trengove - Colquhoun
    B: Jonas - Carlile - O'Shea
    R: Lobbe - Wines - Hartlett
    INT: Pittard - Moore - White
    SUB: Young
    3 emergencies: Logan - Cassisi - Heath

    Port Adelaide MAGPIES
    F: Neade - Butcher - Hitchcock
    HF: Ah Chee - Shaw - ?
    C: Mitchell - Newton - ?
    HB: Flynn - Clurey - Stevenson
    B: Logan - Hombsch - P. Stewart
    R: Renouf - Heath - Cassisi
    INT: ? - ? - ?
     
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    AFL:
    B: Jonas - Carlile - O'Shea
    HB: Ebert - Trengove - Broadbent
    C: Cornes - Wines - Pittard
    HF: Wingard - Schulz - Monfries
    F: Gray - Redden - Westhoff
    R: Lobbe - Boak - Hartlett
    Int: Moore - Cassisi - Logan
    Sub: Young

    SANFL:
    B: ??? - Hombsch - ???
    HB: Heath - Clurey - Stevenson
    C: Mitchell - Stewart - Flynn
    HF: Ah Chee - Butcher - Colquhoun/White
    F: Neade - Shaw - Hitchcock
    R: Renouf - Newton - Colquhoun/White
    Int: ??? - ??? - ???
     
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    Port Adelaide POWER
    F: Monfries - Schulz - Gray
    HF: Westhoff - Butcher - Wingard
    C: Broadbent - Boak - Hartlett
    HB: Pittard - Trengove - Colquhoun
    B: Jonas - Carlile - O'Shea
    R: Lobbe - Wines - Ebert
    INT: Hombsch - Moore - Cornes
    SUB: Neade
    pick your emergancies from Logan - Young - Heath - P Stewart - Newton - White - Clurey - Cassisi (in no order)

    Port Adelaide MAGPIES
    F: ???? - ????? - Hitchcock
    HF: Ah Chee - Shaw - P. Stewart
    C: Mitchell - Newton - White
    HB: Flynn - Clurey - Stevenson
    B: Logan VC - ???? - Heath
    R: Redden- Young - Cassisi (C)
    INT: Renouf - ? - ? - ?
     
  21. brok boucher

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    Matt White will be playing in our 22 why would we pick him up if he is just going to be playing in the sanfl?
     
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    this thread is about how you would pick the team

    not what you think the team will be picked
     
  23. Quadgeddoncross

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    Added SANFL team.

    Port Adelaide (AFL):
    B: Tom Jonas ~ Jackson Trengove ~ Tom Logan
    HB: Cameron O'Shea ~ Alipate Carlile ~ Matthew Broadbent
    C: Brad Ebert ~ Oliver Wines ~ Kane Cornes
    HF: Justin Westhoff ~ John Butcher ~ Robbie Gray
    F: Chad Wingard ~ Jay Schulz ~ Angus Monfries
    R: Matthew Lobbe ~ Travis Boak ~ Hamish Hartlett
    IC: Domenic Cassisi ~ Jarrad Redden ~ Andrew Moore
    Sub: Matthew White

    Port Adelaide Reserves (SANFL)
    B: Campbell Heath ~ Tom Clurey ~ Lewis Stevenson
    HB: Daniel Flynn ~ Jack Hombsch ~ ???????
    C: Sam Colquhoun ~ Aaron Young ~ Jasper Pittard
    HF: Ben Newton ~ ??????? ~ Paul Stewart
    F: Cameron Hitchcock ~ Mason Shaw ~ Brendon Ah Chee
    R: Brent Renouf ~ Jake Neade ~ Kane Mitchell
    IC: ??????? ~ ??????? ~ ??????? ~ ???????
     
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    FB: Jonas, Carlile, O'Shea
    HB: Broadbent, Trengove, Heath
    C: Hartlett, Ebert, Colhoqun
    HF: Stewart, Butcher, Westhoff
    FF: Monfries, Schulz, Redden
    Fol: Lobbe, Boak, Wines
    Int: Wingard, Pittard, Moore
    Sub: Cornes

    Reserves
    FB: Logan, Hombsh, Flynn
    HB: Stevenson, Clurey, Casissi
    C: Mitchell, Newton, White
    HF: Hitchcock, Shaw, Polec
    FF: Neade, McCarthy, Ah Chee
    Fol: Renouf, Young, Amato
    Int: ............
     
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    would really have Cornes as the sub?

    and Newton in the middle with Polec on a FF, and how'd we get Amato, McCarthy and Polec?