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Kong said:
How would you describe/explain the sound of Bond themes to someone?

There's a distinct sound to them, but I can't really articulate it.
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Strong brass and strings sections, which really comes from John Barry's jazz background more than anything. It was really defined by "Goldfinger", then "Thunderball" is very much a clone of that. Those elements are prevalent in "Diamonds Are Forever", "The Man With the Golden Gun", "A View to a Kill", and "The Living Daylights", which were all co-written by Barry; in the case of the latter two those elements are interwoven with a sound that is still very much at home with Duran Duran and a-ha respectively. "Licence to Kill", "GoldenEye", "The World is Not Enough", "Another Way to Die" and of course "Skyfall" are all overt attempts to emulate this style. Many of these songs also have strains of the James Bond theme in them, or in the case of "Licence to Kill" it literally lifts the horn line straight from "Goldfinger". "You Know My Name" is a bit more muted in its use of these elements, the brass is used as more of an undertone. For a great example of the elements in isolation, good to look at the only instrumental title sequence post-Goldfinger:



OHMSS has the added distinctive sounds of the Moog and kidney-puncturing bass.

Sometimes it's just strings - "You Only Live Twice" is the template for these more ballad-y kind of songs, again it's Barry's style of strings, which typically populate the films' soundtracks. "Moonraker", "All Time High" and Sam Smith's "Writing's on the Wall" are in this vein.

The outliers are straightforward pop songs - "Nobody Does It Better" which is just a great song anyway so it doesn't need the overt elements, ditto for "For Your Eyes Only" where Conti's heavy piano sound replaces the brass, I guess.

That leaves you with "Tomorrow Never Dies" which thinks it can get away with piano and a nice little guitar line but falls completely flat because it's utter s**t and Crow is for some reason singing about "See Your Eeyore Eyes", and "Die Another Day" which doesn't warrant dialogue.
 
Lord Nicholson said:
Strong brass and strings sections, which really comes from John Barry's jazz background more than anything. It was really defined by "Goldfinger", then "Thunderball" is very much a clone of that. Those elements are prevalent in "Diamonds Are Forever", "The Man With the Golden Gun", "A View to a Kill", and "The Living Daylights", which were all co-written by Barry; in the case of the latter two those elements are interwoven with a sound that is still very much at home with Duran Duran and a-ha respectively. "Licence to Kill", "GoldenEye", "The World is Not Enough", "Another Way to Die" and of course "Skyfall" are all overt attempts to emulate this style. Many of these songs also have strains of the James Bond theme in them, or in the case of "Licence to Kill" it literally lifts the horn line straight from "Goldfinger". "You Know My Name" is a bit more muted in its use of these elements, the brass is used as more of an undertone. For a great example of the elements in isolation, good to look at the only instrumental title sequence post-Goldfinger:



OHMSS has the added distinctive sounds of the Moog and kidney-puncturing bass.

Sometimes it's just strings - "You Only Live Twice" is the template for these more ballad-y kind of songs, again it's Barry's style of strings, which typically populate the films' soundtracks. "Moonraker", "All Time High" and Sam Smith's "Writing's on the Wall" are in this vein.

The outliers are straightforward pop songs - "Nobody Does It Better" which is just a great song anyway so it doesn't need the overt elements, ditto for "For Your Eyes Only" where Conti's heavy piano sound replaces the brass, I guess.

That leaves you with "Tomorrow Never Dies" which thinks it can get away with piano and a nice little guitar line but falls completely flat because it's utter s**t and Crow is for some reason singing about "See Your Eeyore Eyes", and "Die Another Day" which doesn't warrant dialogue.
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Yeah but.... Ballads and stuff.
 

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Paraphrasing I'm sure, but:

Vogel: "What nationality are you?"
Rick: "A drunkard."
Renault: "That makes Rick a citizen of the world."

Such a great, whip-smart script. Love it. Renault is one of my favourite characters ever.
 
Lord Nicholson said:
Paraphrasing I'm sure, but:

Vogel: "What nationality are you?"
Rick: "A drunkard."
Renault: "That makes Rick a citizen of the world."

Such a great, whip-smart script. Love it. Renault is one of my favourite characters ever.
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As good as Rick is, Renault is my favourite character
 
DapperDon said:
http://www.theonion.com/video/onion-reviews-spectre-51795

Very touching review.
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I like it, could not be bothered with a proper assessment of the drivel that is Spectre. The only thing I'd say that is a positive about Spectre is that it was better than Skyfall a parody of the The Dark Night and Quantum of Solace, but that is hardly much of an achievement.

It makes you wonder how these clowns managed to pull off Casino Royale (maybe the best Bond film or at least my equal favourite with From Russia with Love). I suspect it is only because they had Fleming do most of the heavy lifting.

I even went in with no expectations this time, unlike the last two occasions when expectations only resulted in bitter, bitter disappointment.


The worst part about it all was the sheer laziness inherent in tying the stories together the way they did. While the opening was always left in the story line running through the Craig films, the development of the Spectre angle was utterly woeful. It just happened all of the sudden and it was like the acting credibility of Christolph Walz was supposed to be enough to wallpaper over the 2.5m crack in the wall.

ESB: "Hai James! It was me all along...hahahahaha...don't you see?!"

JB: "Of course, it all makes sense now! I knew having last seen you die in an avalanche, with no reason whatsoever to suspect that you'd become an evil master mind, that you'd come back from the dead, with a serious chip on your shoulder, and that would turn you into the most evil man alive hellbent on destroying my life because your dad liked me more than he liked you. I felt it was you all along! Your're a campaigner.."

The franchise did not need the rights to the name "Spectre" to make it look like tying the Craig films together was more than just an afterthought.

The biggest problem with these *ers is that they get so caught up in action sequences and feature film cliches that they forget how to tell stories.

It's just lazy assumption followed by underdeveloped idea followed by another lazy assumption another underdeveloped idea and brought together by Bond being drunk again.

Look at the way Spectre/Blofeld was developed from Dr No through to Thunderball. Simple role as puppet master, sitting in the background manipulating everything to his/its will with maybe 10 lines across three movies. From memory he is just referred to as "No. 1" until You Only Live Twice (the 5th film) in which he identifies himself and things tend toward a downward trajectory from there.
 
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Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Spoiler free BTW....

After the s**t that was the prequels, that was like water to a man dying of thirst.

A few minor quibbles, but by and large * me that was a good flick. You won't regret seeing it.
 
Jade said:
Lord Nicholson - Dude. Dude. Dude. DUDE.

Force Awakens. Dude.

Dude.
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Sorry to say, but I'm not overly fussed with it tbh. It's a well-produced covers album.

Adam Driver was phenomenal though.

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Lord Nicholson said:
Sorry to say, but I'm not overly fussed with it tbh. It's a well-produced covers album.

Adam Driver was phenomenal though.

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No love for Daisy Ridley?
 
She was good, and Boyega was quite funny, but Driver was the thing that I think is in saga-best contention and the thing that will compel me to go back to the film in future.

And Ford's delivery of "Ben!" was chilling. That whole sequence was the tops.
 
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yeah whoops
 
Lord Nicholson said:
yeah whoops
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I was really impressed by...

the interaction between Daisy and Harrison. Just worked.

Kylo Ren, I had to marinate on it for a bit, but damn that is a GREAT character. Could be developed into something truly horrible (in the best sense of the word).

At first, I noted his obvious weaknesses when compared to Vader. Vader was a cold, cold bastard. Ren seems 'immature' by comparison. I was also initially bugged by his lightsaber skill. That is, how do two completely untrained people (even if one is force sensitive, and he is injured) challenge him? But later on it sort of dawned on me that this is NOT a Sith lord. It's watching a powerful force user, who lacks a great deal of experience actually getting there. We could finally see 'growth' in a dark side character, where they grow in to their abilities as opposed to just being the text book villain who is already all powerful.

It's a shame we 'missed' him as the son first. That we haven't had, say, an in between trilogy before he is seduced. Would have given the scene with Han, which was already powerful, extraordinary gravitas.
 
I really enjoyed it.

Wasn't particularly happy they killed my childhood hero (in fact I damn near cried) but I'm okay with it now. Chewie was pretty pissed at himself for letting it happen. Loved that he didn't hesitate to shoot him afterwards.

Carrie Fisher looked awful. I think she was wearing the galaxy's biggest girdle. Just looked weird.

Took me half the film to work out Poe was the guy that played the mayor of Yonkers in that tv mini series I posted about called Show Me A Hero.

Thought all the characters were pretty good. Enjoyed the humour. Can understand LNs assertion about it being a greatest hits. It was essentially a rehash of a new hope, but you know what? After the pile of steaming crap that were the prequels I can look past that because there wasn't really anything I didn't enjoy.

It was a bit weird seeing Luke at the end though. I just had this inexplicable sense of 'everything will be alright now' wash over me. It was very odd but may have been borne out of seeing Han killed. Bit nervous that he hasn't had a line of dialogue yet. I hope he doesn't William Shatner it.

I want to go and see it again but don't think I can be arsed going to the cinema.

******* hate 3d too.
 
This film is amazing.

I heard someone said that Finn was too passive to be a main character but I disagree. I can clearly see his POV. He and Poe I think are going to become the super awesome fighter combination I hope.

Who does everyone think Rey is? I'm going to go with Han and Leia's daughter.

Also, did anyone notice that Freema Agyeman (Martha Jones in Dr. Who) was in it for about 30 seconds?
 
I don't really think I need to spoiler this but I read this morning that Daniel Craig and a couple of other well known actors whose names escape me atm were stormtroopers. Also that Simon Pegg was the alien trader Rey dealt with? There was also mention of Kevin Smith I think.
 
Firstly, yes Star Wars was the ****.


Dunno if this film has been mentioned but my favourite film of this year is an Aussie production called Predestination.

Bloody hell it did my head in and made me think about my own values as a person.

Also, Sarah Snook is Australia's best actor imo.
 
Well, I enjoyed it a lot more on a second go, and was more focused on what it is rather than what it isn't. I still think the faux-Spielbergian style doesn't quite work as well as Lucas's Kurosawa-style tableaus (the last shot is the ugliest in Star Wars history), and I think it lacks the true idiosyncrasy of Lucas's story and hence it's not quite the potpourri that Lucas managed to fashion - as a kid what I loved about Star Wars was that it was everything. People call it a space-western but that's so limiting, it's got pirates, it's got knights, it's got aviation, it's got military, it's got a spiritual undercurrent, it's got politics, etc. This film sorta goes down that limited path though.

Hence why I think that Kylo Ren is really the ace up this film's sleeve - he's totally captivating. He channels all of Anakin/Vader so well - the petulance, the fury (his pacing about and bellowing "TRAITOR" is almost a carbon copy of Anakin doing the same and screaming "LIAR" at Obi-Wan so it's not quite as prequel averse as you might think - it's also got Ewan McGregor doing an Obi-Wan voice over), the imperious total command of a given situation, even the way he moves. It's great.
 
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