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But on the outside, I'd love for them to test things a bit. Like the Arena, good art gets people talking. I hope it gets a few curious looks and just as many ardent supporters. That's the kind of thing Perth needs. The Adelaide Oval is fairly boring on the exterior, its icon coming from the hill, and I hate that big stand at the opposite end to the hill. It looks bulbous and bloated.

Actually the exterior is far from boring... A nice mix of stone, brick, copper and glass.
The southern stand can display multiple colours and will be configured to suit the home team.
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Actually the exterior is far from boring... A nice mix of stone, brick, copper and glass.
The southern stand can display multiple colours and will be configured to suit the home team.
That actually looks really boring. Stone, brick, copper, and glass? You've just described the MCG, Suncorp, ANZ, Etihad, Subiaco Oval, AAMI... some of those grounds are pleasures to attend and hugely important to Australian sport, but they're nothing attractive from the outside. Nobody talks about how stunning the MCG facade is. And that Adelaide Oval exterior is boring. That's not iconic. It's barely even interesting. My opinion even says it's a little empty looking... it looks far too dark in the last few photos.

Something like Wembley's big arc or Allianz Arena in Germany is what I want this new Perth ground to have. Something you can notice and say is absolute and quintessential to the ground. Could you imagine Highbury without the old West and East Stands? Old Wembley without the towers? You can't fake those beautiful old buildings but can you make something pioneering. And considering it's cheaper, quicker, and easier to keep the inside stock (but still apt) and the outside something special, then why not? The Bell Tower is nothing to Perth. They shouldn't miss another chance here.

Finally someone has mentioned this, the thing looks very ordinary.
It really does. It doesn't look as bad for the footy because of the camera angle and positioning. But it was horrible for the cricket season. The camera just beamed at it half the time and you realised how anti-Adelaide Oval it is. The charm of that oval, or I guess it's aura and reputation, is this relaxed, beautiful kind of atmosphere. That behemoth of a thing wrecks that. Having a roof about the size of the top tier is just an odd decision... ugly and surely more expensive?

The same goes for the new SCG end. When you have two absolutely pristine, charismatic grandstands, you don't have to show too much extravagance and flair with the rest of the design. It just seems like too much is going on there. And I guess even out of context, it looks wiry, half empty, poorly proportioned... just odd.
 

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That actually looks really boring. Stone, brick, copper, and glass? You've just described the MCG, Suncorp, ANZ, Etihad, Subiaco Oval, AAMI... some of those grounds are pleasures to attend and hugely important to Australian sport, but they're nothing attractive from the outside. Nobody talks about how stunning the MCG facade is. And that Adelaide Oval exterior is boring. That's not iconic. It's barely even interesting. My opinion even says it's a little empty looking... it looks far too dark in the last few photos.

Something like Wembley's big arc or Allianz Arena in Germany is what I want this new Perth ground to have. Something you can notice and say is absolute and quintessential to the ground. Could you imagine Highbury without the old West and East Stands? Old Wembley without the towers? You can't fake those beautiful old buildings but can you make something pioneering. And considering it's cheaper, quicker, and easier to keep the inside stock (but still apt) and the outside something special, then why not? The Bell Tower is nothing to Perth. They shouldn't miss another chance here.


It really does. It doesn't look as bad for the footy because of the camera angle and positioning. But it was horrible for the cricket season. The camera just beamed at it half the time and you realised how anti-Adelaide Oval it is. The charm of that oval, or I guess it's aura and reputation, is this relaxed, beautiful kind of atmosphere. That behemoth of a thing wrecks that. Having a roof about the size of the top tier is just an odd decision... ugly and surely more expensive?

The same goes for the new SCG end. When you have two absolutely pristine, charismatic grandstands, you don't have to show too much extravagance and flair with the rest of the design. It just seems like too much is going on there. And I guess even out of context, it looks wiry, half empty, poorly proportioned... just odd.

Can't see any copper, stone or brick in these stadiums...
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But yes, compared to some oversees stadiums it is still rather conservative.
 
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I love the location for the Stadium. That section of the river between the Stadium and the Casino will one day be Perth's equivalent of Southbank in Melbourne. But I sure do miss that golf course.
 
I love the location for the Stadium. That section of the river between the Stadium and the Casino will one day be Perth's equivalent of Southbank in Melbourne. But I sure do miss that golf course.

Great for aquatic activities ............................ minus those beeping jet ski's.
 
Preferred bidder named for new Perth Stadium
Tuesday, 15 April 2014
  • WESTADIUM is Preferred Respondent to build new Perth Stadium
  • All three bids were world-class and satisfied strict criteria
  • Negotiations to conclude mid-2014
The contract to design, build, finance and maintain the new Perth Stadium and Sports Precinct has reached another important milestone with the naming of WESTADIUM as the Preferred Respondent.

Premier Colin Barnett said each of the three shortlisted private sector consortia submitted world-class bids that addressed the technical, operational and commercial requirements of the State’s Request for Proposals.

“The State’s evaluation team spent the past four months rigorously evaluating each bid and ultimately determined that WESTADIUM represented the best overall value for money for the design and construction phase plus the contract’s 25-year maintenance period,” the Premier said.

“We expect the contract will be awarded mid-year - which is when we can reveal the successful design.”

Following approval of WESTADIUM as the Preferred Respondent by Cabinet yesterday, the State will now enter into exclusive negotiations, seeking to reach final agreement on all of the terms and conditions to design, build, finance and maintain the new Perth Stadium. Cabinet also approved appointment of the Confidem consortium as the Reserve Respondent, in the event that the State cannot successfully conclude negotiations with WESTADIUM.

Sport and Recreation Minister Terry Waldron thanked the three consortia for the significant investment and time that they had taken to develop their bids.

“The quality and breadth of the bid responses reflects the stature of this project and the appetite from the international stadia industry to be part of delivering a world-class venue,” Mr Waldron said.

“The announcement today demonstrates how beneficial the past two years of planning have been, but there is still a long way to go to successfully deliver this project.”

Physical pre-construction site works were recently completed six weeks ahead of schedule. The site is now being left to settle under 740,000 tonnes of sand surcharge to ensure it is fully prepared for construction to begin at the end of 2014. The new Perth Stadium is scheduled to open in time for the start of the 2018 AFL season.

Fact File
  • The WESTADIUM consortium is led by Brookfield Financial and John Laing, with Brookfield Multiplex as builder and Brookfield Johnson Controls as facilities manager
  • Further information and updates will be posted at http://www.perthstadium.com.au
http://www.mediastatements.wa.gov.a...s.aspx?listName=StatementsBarnett&StatId=8241
 
I've heard rumours that when this stadium is complete it will be used for first class cricket as well as football. I haven't heard a lot of great reports about the WACA oval, mainly that it's a bit run down, so it stands to reason that playing both footy and cricket at a world class venue makes sense.
 

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I've heard rumours that when this stadium is complete it will be used for first class cricket as well as football. I haven't heard a lot of great reports about the WACA oval, mainly that it's a bit run down, so it stands to reason that playing both footy and cricket at a world class venue makes sense.
Wishful thinking from some people. T20s and some big ODIs will move to the new stadium, but tests cant and wont.
 
For Tests to be played on a drop in pitch, ICC rules state that the drop in pitch must be laid in for the whole summer. The state government has already ruled out giving WACA control of the new ground for that to happen. Tests arent even big any. The only test match that comes close to selling out the WACA is the Ashes and past day 3 crowds drop to below 20k anyway. The WACA may not be pretty, but its capacity of 24k is plenty for a standalone cricket venue. Also got to remember the WACA owns the WACA ground. Only the huge potential crowds that the big bash would draw would justify renting out the new stadium over playing it at a stadium they own.
 
Reckon only t20's will go to the new stadium. Would prefer to see a packed out WACA for a test match than a stadium that is 2/3 empty.

CA might force the hand though.
 
Why can't Tests be played at the new stadium? The article below implies that the WACA is not up to standard if there aren't going to be > 4 Tests in a summer, and that big matches (which I assume includes Tests, not just one day games) should be moved to the new stadium.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-12/waca-to-miss-out-on-test-match/4952878

Crowds don't demand it. Save for the Ashes and the first few days of an India test match it's not hard to get tickets at all.
 
Reckon only t20's will go to the new stadium. Would prefer to see a packed out WACA for a test match than a stadium that is 2/3 empty.

CA might force the hand though.

I don't think even T20s need to go there. I doubt the crowds are going to be much bigger consistently, which leaves a lot of empty seats.
 
I don't think even T20s need to go there. I doubt the crowds are going to be much bigger consistently, which leaves a lot of empty seats.
An issue will be whether WACA members get entry to any big bash games at the new stadium. Very few will want to pay twice and if they dont turn up then that's around 10000 gone right there.
 
I don't think even T20s need to go there. I doubt the crowds are going to be much bigger consistently, which leaves a lot of empty seats.

I think they will end up playing T20 at the new stadium.

Firstly, it's the form of the game that gets most casual spectators, people that go to one or two games a year. It's not really a hard-core cricket experience. Right now there's only about 10-12,000 non-member tickets available each Scorchers game and they tend to sell out rather often. So I think there's plenty of demand there going unfulfilled.

Secondly, the Scorchers are supposed to be a franchise team, not a WACA or state team. Eventually they will have equity partners who will want to expand the team and attract new spectators and grow the team. They can't do that stuck at the WACA with the best seats in the house filled by WACA members. They might be able to introduce Scorchers season tickets or something in the new stadium.
 
I think they will end up playing T20 at the new stadium.

Firstly, it's the form of the game that gets most casual spectators, people that go to one or two games a year. It's not really a hard-core cricket experience. Right now there's only about 10-12,000 non-member tickets available each Scorchers game and they tend to sell out rather often. So I think there's plenty of demand there going unfulfilled.

Secondly, the Scorchers are supposed to be a franchise team, not a WACA or state team. Eventually they will have equity partners who will want to expand the team and attract new spectators and grow the team. They can't do that stuck at the WACA with the best seats in the house filled by WACA members. They might be able to introduce Scorchers season tickets or something in the new stadium.

The season tickets would have to be automatically included with WACA memberships.
 
The season tickets would have to be automatically included with WACA memberships.

I was thinking the opposite way. WACA members would get a seat at all Scorchers game at the new stadium, of course. Perhaps they could sit on one side behind the bowlers arm. At the other end could be Scorchers season ticket holders, who get a premium seat at each Scorchers game but have no corresponding rights to a seat at the WACA. Thus the Scorchers splitting away somewhat from the Western Warriors and having their own identity a bit.
 

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