Tim Membrey requests trade

[grimlock]

Why? It's in the rules, if a club makes an 'official' claim to pick a player up in the PSD then they are allowed to start training.

Presumably you weren't happy with the AFL making up the Swans trade rule on the run, so you shouldn't hope the AFL makes up another rule on the run.

Just because it doesn't benefit your club doesn't mean it shouldn't be allowed.

Nothing to do with the trade ban whatsoever. One of the benefits of trading a player in is that he gets to bed in with his new club immediately. If we remove this incentive then it's only going to encourage clubs to actively seek to pick up players for no compensation in the future.

St Kilda had a choice, they chose the PSD route so they should be made to follow the rules.

 

[Periphery]

St Kilda had a choice, they chose the PSD route

Sydney kept Goodes on for another year even though they had to know that Membrey would leave for more opportunity if they did. They clearly didn't value him highly.

Sydney then refused to accept a pick on the grounds they weren't going to use it. But any pick that you would have used would have been way over the value of Membrey and you were going to lose him for nothing if you didn't do a trade.

How is any of that our choice and why should Membrey be punished for your stubbornness?

 

[Two Planks]

It suited the swans when Dermot Brereton was allowed to train prior to being drafted.

Sydney should have accepted pick 100 for Membrey just to get him to the club of his choice just like the cats did with king gardiner pods and chapman.

 

[melbournehammer]

This is just silly. If he isn't playing for us he should go where he is going. These guys are professional athletes, not people you put on gardening leave

 

[melbournehammer]

It suited the swans when Dermot Brereton was allowed to train prior to being drafted.

Sydney should have accepted pick 100 for Membrey just to get him to the club of his choice just like the cats did with king gardiner pods and chapman.

If you look at what the swans and peaches have said publicly everyone knew what the deal was and that the psd was going to be the way it worked.

 

[liz]

Sydney kept Goodes on for another year even though they had to know that Membrey would leave for more opportunity if they did. They clearly didn't value him highly.

Sydney then refused to accept a pick on the grounds they weren't going to use it. But any pick that you would have used would have been way over the value of Membrey and you were going to lose him for nothing if you didn't do a trade.

How is any of that our choice and why should Membrey be punished for your stubbornness?

If it correct that the Saints have offered Membrey a three year contract, I doubt he would have stayed regardless of Goodes' decision. I can't see anyway that the Swans would have offered him that. And you're right, if we'd rated him as important (or keepable) it wouldn't have come down to a decision between Goodes and Membrey.

I don't have an issue with the Swans not trading him for a nothing pick. Had the Saints had their eye on someone else who might be available in the PSD, they might have been more anxious to do a trade the Swans were interested in. Once the Saints lost out on O'Rourke and Jaksch, I guess there was no one else really on offer. But last year we were resigned to losing Mumford to the Giants and had to accept a trade well under his fair value, simply because the Giants had the first pick in the PSD. So they gave in and traded him for well unders, only for the Giants to then use their PSD pick to lure Lamb away too, a player who had previously indicated he was going to stay. So you can understand why the Swans were unwilling to be dudded two years in a row by the team with the first pick in the PSD.

What it leaves is the Swans with another week or so to see if they can persuade Membrey to change his mind and stay - all supposing that they have any interest in that. If not, his contract expires at the end of the week and he is free to enter the draft. If the Saints have made an absolute commitment to draft him, I see no reason why he shouldn't start training with them once his leave period has expired. In any case, it is not a decision for the Swans. It comes down entirely to the AFL's standard procedures*.

*as amended from time to time, often on the run and with no rational explanation for their variation.

 

[swanton]

Presumably if there were no hard feelings towards the player or the Saints then the Swans would just delist him and then we could pick him up as a DFA. Hanging onto him until the last possible minute is just annoying for everyone.

unless we offered him a contract and he refused, then he doesn't qualify as a DFA
pretty sure we offered him a contract

 

[swanton]

Sydney kept Goodes on for another year even though they had to know that Membrey would leave for more opportunity if they did. They clearly didn't value him highly.

Sydney then refused to accept a pick on the grounds they weren't going to use it. But any pick that you would have used would have been way over the value of Membrey and you were going to lose him for nothing if you didn't do a trade.

How is any of that our choice and why should Membrey be punished for your stubbornness?

What a load of BS, Membrey was gone by mid season, his management was approached by St Kilda (probably more Vic teams). Ameet Baines even stated on TWR that St kilda sent over some people to watch him in the NEAFL, and he, through his management held off re negotiations re-signing with the swans until seasons end, also well before the goodes decision.

Maybe they caught wind of this, and thats why he didnt play too many games

 

[Tedeski]

Has anyone actually thought that maybe he's just not good enough to break into the starting 22 of a regular finals team & then actually play consistent footy stay in that team?

He has a long way to go & at the Saints he can be a regular senior AFL player.
Much like Jed Lamb now is at GWS.

 

[SterlingArcher]

If you look at what the swans and peaches have said publicly everyone knew what the deal was and that the psd was going to be the way it worked.

Which is why it was strange that the original poster brought the topic up. Swans don't seem to have a problem, why should he/she..