Opinion Tippett two years on: is he worth it?

[RW]

Time to settle this debate with a poll.

As I said in the injury thread, I'm prepared to wait till the end of this season before passing judgement, as his contributions when he's been injury free have been excellent, and it looks like he's over the knee tendonitis which plagued him last year (his current injury, presumably minor (?), is to his other knee). But I'm happy to hear contrasting opinions.

We need him to step up and nail that ruck/forward role this year though, given what it cost us to get him.

Share your thoughts here!

 

[swansfan51]

Stats:

$1.6million
26 games
69 goals
1/2 responsible for us not being able to trade players in 2014
Lost us Mumford

 

[robbieando]

To blame the club for Adelaide breaching the rules regarding the salary cap is a huge reach. He was a late withdrawal in a Round 23 game against the Hawks and then damaged his knee early in the semi final against Carlton.

That is hardly a patten or a known risk we were taking at the time. His return last year was held back by knee tendenditis then a rib injury in the Reserves. Once over that he proved his worth.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Without placing blame no its not been worth it but you can see why we pushed so hard to get him the lure of getting him for a second round pick to add a new dimension to our forwardline and ruck was to good to pass up.

 

[robbieando]

Lost us Mumford

No he didn't. He played with him thus had no effect on Mumford leaving.

 

[robbieando]

For the record the outs the year Mumford arrived were: Trent Dennis-Lane, Nathan Gordon, Campbell Heath, Brett Meredith, Jarred Moore and Matt Spangher.

So he really only cost us Jesus, I mean Spangher

 

[RW]

26 games
69 goals

2.65 goals per game is a pretty good return, only Buddy has averaged more goals per game than this since Tippett came to the club. After that the player with the next highest goal per game average is Goodes with 1.7 in 2013 and 1.5 in 2014. No-one averaged more than 2 goals per game in 2012. He just needs to stay injury free.

Source: http://www.redandwhiteonline.com/?pageid=statshome

 

[GoTheSwannies]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-03/swans-star-kurt-tippett-ruled-out-of-nab-challenge

"Tippett's past two seasons have been restricted by knee injuries and suspension, meaning her has played only 26 games since joining the Swans as a high-profile recruit at the end of 2012." - afl.com.au

Quoted for accuracy

 

[The King!]

Better performance by the team in our last game and thoughts may be different for some


Lets see if he lines up round 1 as promised first i say

 

[The King!]

As long as he plays round 1 i dont mind

Otherwise the s**t we have to listen to will be the most annoying part

 

[cinderella man]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-03/swans-star-kurt-tippett-ruled-out-of-nab-challenge

"Tippett's past two seasons have been restricted by knee injuries and suspension, meaning her has played only 26 games since joining the Swans as a high-profile recruit at the end of 2012." - afl.com.au

Quoted for accuracy

AFL.COM use the word " Star " pretty loosely don't they. 26 games going into his third season but at least he hasn't put himself in a self induced coma true to his regular form.

Tom Harley quoted as saying doing a full preseason gives you the confidence to go out and play every game !!!! Give us a spell Tom ! If you get hurt at the mere sight of a Sherrin you might as well have sat in the Woolamaloo getting Schindlers. Wait for the Club diatribe when he is a no show for Rd 1 and the ensuing s**t talk when his absence is extended beyond that.

 

[Sunners]

I think this year will be the year when we're decided on Tippett. In 2013, when he was in our side I felt we were too predictable, a few games (for instance Collingwood) he was just on his own in our 50 metre arc doing nothing as the ball didn't come to him. In 2014, he was solid for most of the year having Franklin along side him but on Grand Final Day, the ball rarely got to him and he wasn't that good on the day. This year, as long as he stays injury-free, I feel he'll be better but time will tell. Jury is still out on whether or not he can stand up when things aren't going our way on the field.

 

[Superstar swan]

Look back at the game against geelong last year. That was one of the most dominant performence by a forward duo in recent memory...especially given the quality of opposition.

Who knows,he may end up playing every game this year and kick 60 goals. Lets see how it turns out before we burn him alive

 

[S120]

Get him fit and on the field and yes, he's worth the money. 69 goals from 26 games is a very good return if you look at those stats without any other context.

He is often hurt however and already is off to a haphazard start to 2015. I certainly hope we get him to agree to a price reduction at the end of his contract given his status as a very talented but oft injured tall forward.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Tricky one, at his best yes. Fact is without him we have Sam Reid as our 2nd forward....yeah no thanks fellas, I'll take Tippett. The old 500K is 750K now, so he is being paid accordingly with the going rate.

 

[Sanecow]

He's good. Would like to see him out on the park a bit more, I think he makes poor decisions diving for marks that endanger his knees. And like Kennedy, has no idea how to use his size to physically intimidate. Needs a dash more mongrel, fewer diving marks and better delivery from the mids to be 100% successful.

 

[Banyo Bloods]

Can't plan for injuries.....When available he has made our team a lot stronger. Hoping for a full year out on the ground to judge true value. Recruiting him was a no brainer has been very good when available for the most part.

 

[MarkP]

The side is better when he plays. You can't plan for injuries.

Worth the money - well yah, that is the market price for dominate power forwards. As much as I would like to think we could train Luke Parker to play at over 2 metres and 105kg (or whatever the numbers are) it aint going to happen although he can jump on a pack on them the talented little bugger.

Reason why Cloke, Hawkins, Tippett etc command the big bucks is that there are so few of them.

The first half year for suspension was not really "his fault" as such. If he had played that first half year the number would obviously be a lot better and the conversation would be different.

 

[beartoo]

Injured a lot when at the Crows. Seems to be prone. I was never sold on him while he was here. Strong as an ox, but IMO lacked the skills and polish to command the bucks he commands.

 

[Superstar swan]

Tippett himself said he has tried to add some size this off season,maybe he should try lose some weight to take the extra pressure off of his legs ala goodes

 

[brad cooper]

I totally agree with his recruitment. I just cant believe how injury prone he is. Hopefully he comes back early in the season. My worry is with a set back like this he could end up playing permanent forward not rucking, which leaves us the dilema of having to play another ruck along with pyke.

 

[Millky95]

Good when he is on the park. Trick is getting him there. Hopefully around 15-18 H&A games this season

 

[spenze]

I would look at it this way, did a power forward averaging 2.6 goals a game cost you a high draft pick and a player?

He is worth it.

Sure because of the fiasco with Adelaide you had to hang on to Jessie White for one more season but that must be the only downside

 

[Brenton Davy]

He already had the knee tendonitis when he left Adelaide and was already injury prone. Sydney knew what they were getting.

 

[The King!]

Clearly 2nd best forward in the side, best ruckman in the team, he will deliver