Trigg to be announced as the new Carlton CEO

[PrideOf]

Why are the AFL happy for Trigg to get another job?

Trigg's results, not the perception of him will determine whether we embrace him.

Gilligan went to Saints. S Trigg is a Saints student and teacher.

Join the dots.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

For the last time, the Crows DID NOT exceed the salary cap. Never have, never did. These are proberbly the same people who still think they found WMDs in Iraq.

They broke the salary cap rules. Deliberately. And they hid the evidence.

 

[PrideOf]

I actually know nothing about Trigg, although yes i know he was in charge during Adelaide's Tippet salary cap fiasco - but can anyone ITT actually explain in detail what makes him apparently a terrible appointment (according to the posters here who you know, know everything about the football world).

To save you reading the 300-page thread on Twiggy's shortcomings over on our board:

• Taken a financial 'Big Four' club and made us middle of the road
• Commissioned a $20m headquarters to be built just minutes before we moved to Adelaide Oval
• Called unhappy supporters 'pathetic' rather than fix the problems being raised
• The whole campaigner Tippett thing
• Bent over for the AFL when Rendell was accused of being racist - fired him on the spot rather than follow due process
• Presided over our million-dollar loss in 2013 - which was driven primarily from depreciation on the aforementioned $20m headquarters
• This is his latest report card from 2013: Loss $1.8million (worst in history of club), sponsorship/marketing down 20%, assets down $1.2m, liabilities up 10%, net asset position down 11%
• His continual preaching that AFC is in a 'powerful' financial position but not allowing anyone to see the figures.
• Some bullshit about not being able to backfill the late Dean Bailey's role - despite being in 'powerful' financial position.

All the best Carlton. If you ever want to run for parliament, Trigg's your man.

 

[PrideOf]

They broke the salary cap rules. Deliberately. And they hid the evidence.

You realised you've just proved his point? We broke rules but didn't break the cap.

Which is a special kind of stupid.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

You realised you've just proved his point? We broke rules but didn't break the cap.

Which is a special kind of stupid.

Adelaide cheated under Trigg. Who cares if you won an argument on a technicality. Its like saying Rolf Harris didnt rape anybody.

 

[PrideOf]

Adelaide cheated under Trigg. Who cares if you won an argument on a technicality.

Seeing as you were telling him he was wrong on a technicality, then you're absolutely right sire. Who cares?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Typical high profile appointment that Carlton has become famous for. Doesnt matter if hes any good, he just has to be well known.

 

[Madblue]

Typical high profile appointment that Carlton has become famous for. Doesnt matter if hes any good, he just has to be well known.

Just like Buckley i guess

 

[Cleric]

Correct that they did not exceed the cap. However clearly there was an intent to put money off the books and a reasoning that it was required (an expectation that it was required). The CEO doesn't do this unless he reasons it is the best option on the table. In hindsight Crows had a crap year however pre-season expectations were for a top four finish which would result in spend that should be under the salary cap

Wrong. They didnt put it "on the books" because they knew they would russle up enough third party endorsements that they wouldnt have to pay it. The AFL smashed.us because they said we were not seperated enough from the Balfours deal and that may have looked like we were getting money to him through third parties. Never mind that the AFL had allowed this before like Judd and Visy. The AFL makes it up as it goes along.
Crows never payed Tippett outside the cap, never exceded the cap and didnt tamper with the draft.

 

[CHIMP MAGNET]

good appointment

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Just like Buckley i guess

try and stay on topic

 

[Macca19]

To save you reading the 300-page thread on Twiggy's shortcomings over on our board:

• Taken a financial 'Big Four' club and made us middle of the road
• Commissioned a $20m headquarters to be built just minutes before we moved to Adelaide Oval
• Called unhappy supporters 'pathetic' rather than fix the problems being raised
• The whole campaigner Tippett thing
• Bent over for the AFL when Rendell was accused of being racist - fired him on the spot rather than follow due process
• Presided over our million-dollar loss in 2013 - which was driven primarily from depreciation on the aforementioned $20m headquarters
• This is his latest report card from 2013: Loss $1.8million (worst in history of club), sponsorship/marketing down 20%, assets down $1.2m, liabilities up 10%, net asset position down 11%
• His continual preaching that AFC is in a 'powerful' financial position but not allowing anyone to see the figures.
• Some bullshit about not being able to backfill the late Dean Bailey's role - despite being in 'powerful' financial position.

All the best Carlton. If you ever want to run for parliament, Trigg's your man.

YOu left out making Neil Craig a member of staff who would be coach for "as far as the eye can see"....before sacking him 3 months later.

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

Interesting... A man suspended for cheating to go work for a club that has a history of cheating. It's a match made in heaven.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Off topic (slightly) and not trying to sound like a troll....

Question for Crows supporters.

Do you think the Crows have become a victim of their own success? Two flags came unexpectedly to them early in the clubs history and they really have meandered ever since, happy being midfield and rarely going deep in finals. Did these premierships create some sort of inbuilt arrogance at the club, at board level at least? A sense of entitlement or even just a sense of contentment?

 

[Madblue]

try and stay on topic

You raised a smart remark and i responded, so very on topic.

 

[little graham]

• Some bullshit about not being able to backfill the late Dean Bailey's role - despite being in 'powerful' financial position.

Tell us all what he was suppose to do here, who was available and appropriate?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

You raised a smart remark and i responded, so very on topic.

Carlton have a long standing history of trying to buy their way out of trouble. Problem is it hasnt worked since they poached Kernahan and Bradley.

 

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[basashi]

The sport is wonderful. The industry behind it is a disgrace.

It is crippled by an incestuous, patronage driven class of know-nothing, ethically illiterate, jumped-up carnies who don't have a decent bone in their bodies.

 

[Chief]

Never mind that the AFL had allowed this before like Judd and Visy.

Yeah, but that deal was put to the AFL beforehand for approval. With great gnashing of teeth from the public. Silly to try to do something similar without approval and in a sly way.

 

[Chief]

To save you reading the 300-page thread on Twiggy's shortcomings over on our board:

• Taken a financial 'Big Four' club and made us middle of the road

This is an improvement on John Elliott.

We're on the up!

 

[Aphrodite]

Typical high profile appointment that Carlton has become famous for. Doesnt matter if hes any good, he just has to be well known.

Brad Cooper says hi!

 

[master bate]

The sport is wonderful. The industry behind it is a disgrace.

It is crippled by an incestuous, patronage driven class of know-nothing, ethically illiterate, jumped-up carnies who don't have a decent bone in their bodies.

It's true. But you hire in someone from outside AFL circles and they often make things worse.

It seems to me no one has worked out how to take smart people from other industries and give them footy knowledge. So instead people who get in the door at clubs or the AFL (often as past players or friends or relatives of other powerbrokers) get some management training and get prime jobs.

The expansion of AFL clubs as businesses should see more smart accountants, lawyers and executives get in to the businesses and then become the future CEO's based on merit.

 

[Macca19]

Off topic (slightly) and not trying to sound like a troll....

Question for Crows supporters.

Do you think the Crows have become a victim of their own success? Two flags came unexpectedly to them early in the clubs history and they really have meandered ever since, happy being midfield and rarely going deep in finals. Did these premierships create some sort of inbuilt arrogance at the club, at board level at least? A sense of entitlement or even just a sense of contentment?

They arent a victim of their own success. They are a victim of lack of accountability due to the circumstances they find themselves in - both in and out of their control.

a) They are/were an SANFL run organisation so they dont rock the boat. Their members have no say in how the club is run. When they do they got called agitators or 'pathetic' from their CEO. They dont query the stadium deal at AAMI, they dont question why they couldnt make money there. Its jobs for the boys, everyone in each others pockets. No internal accountability. "DOnt say anything, just keep the status quo and everyone has a job".

b) They have no external accountability because they make anyone with any sort of media clout in this state an official ambassador of the club. You look at their list of official ambassadors and half of them are journalists or radio personalities. Wheres the accountability there? Noones going to ask the tough questions or look deep into issues when just about everyone that should be asking those questions is on the payroll.